christos200
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Were do you think all Byzantine Greeks went? They were taken by aliens? Not to say that even today people call themselves Romioi (Romans).
Future of Belarus - Poland and EU or Russia?
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warpus
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Wait, "reuniting" with Poland? Neither state dates back further than 1917, and they were separate to begin with.
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I'm not sure if you're on a technicality or what, but
An entity named Poland also exists today, in that very geographical location. Coincidence?
As for Belarus though.. yeah.. I'm not sure if "Re-uniting" is the right term. Not that it will ever happen, but..
Traitorfish
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Well, the Byzantine Empire collapsed over five hundred years ago, so my assumption would be that they died, and probably some time ago.
There was a prominent Irish saint in the sixth century who possessed the same given name as me. Does that suggest to you that I am fifteen hundred years old?
christos200
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The Byzantines Greeks and the modern Greeks are one and the same. In fact, Modern Greeks have more simiralities to the Byzantines than to the Ancient Greeks.
warpus
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I don't think it's so ridiculous to suggest a continuous existence of the Polish nation. In fact, I would say it's ridiculous to suggest that this continuous existence did not occur.
What you claim is really quite disingenuous and silly and.. well.. I'm not even convinced that you're not pulling my leg here. The difference really is Polish state vs Polish nation.
If we're just talking about the Polish state, as it exists today, then you are right. If we are talking about the Polish nation, then you're very wrong.
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I have more similarities to the Kaisar than to the Alemanni, doesn't mean I am the Kaisar.
christos200
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So who are the Modern Greeks? Are they aliens who came in Greece in 1821?
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I fail to see how by virtue of living in one area means you are 'the same' as people who lived there 400 years ago.
warpus
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The same culture, the same families, the same language, the same food, rituals, ethnic background..
What's your criteria for qualifying a peoples as being "the same" ? It has to be the exact same people? So if I'm Canadian and Frank is Canadian, we don't share Canadian-ness, because we're different people? How far do you take it?
warpus
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They could if their capital was in London or at least somewhere in the UK.
christos200
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We have the same language as Byzantines and Ancient Greeks (do not tell me that we do not have, because I can read with ease the original Herodotus, for example), we have the same names, we live in the same place, we have the same customs and religion. If all these do not convice that Modern Greeks are descentants of the Byzantines, then I do not know what can persuade you.
Sure, many Greeks also descent from Albanians, Turks and Slavs. But all those people were hellenized, their language became Greek, they adopted Greek customs and the Orthodox religion, and this shows the power of Hellenism as a cultural power.
Hahah, no.
christos200
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What no? Did the Byzantines not have Greek Orthodox religion? We follow the same religion as the Byzantines. Mnay of our customs originate from this period.
christos200
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Ok. Then who are the Modern Greeks?
By these standards, Belorussia is a successor of Kievan Rus.
Russia and Ukraine too.
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