G-Minor CCV

[aafritz17]

While the general Hall of Fame is an ongoing competition, we like to run time-definite competitions between updates that we call Gauntlets. Standard Hall of Fame rules (*) still apply, but any games meeting the settings will be counted towards the Gauntlet.
(*) Please read the >> HOF rules << BEFORE playing!

PLEASE NOTE - OPPONENT MUST BE PACAL!

Settings:

• Expansion: Brave New World
• Victory Condition: Culture (though all victory conditions must be enabled)
• Difficulty: Chieftain
• Map Size: Duel
• Map Type: Great Plains
• Speed: Epic
• Leader: Byzantium (Theodora)
• Opponents: Must include Maya (Pacal)
• Version: SV8
• Date: 2nd to 31st March 2023

The earliest finish date wins, with score as a tiebreaker.

 

[billybgame]

I recall a prior G Minor or Major where we had issues getting the right number of C/S/ I started this one.....only got 2 C/S. Even though game said would be 2/4.

Edit....started another ....same results 2 C/S....assume game won't be accepted like this, right? Not sure how to get it to give the proper amount. Can't recall scenario before, but took countless tries.

 

[billybgame]

No answer? Not going to submit this with incorrect C/S unless know it's ok. Not sure how to fix....it say 2 and 4. But not sure will ever come out with 4 C/S.

 

[zenmaster]

I recall a prior G Minor or Major where we had issues getting the right number of C/S/ I started this one.....only got 2 C/S. Even though game said would be 2/4.

Edit....started another ....same results 2 C/S....assume game won't be accepted like this, right? Not sure how to get it to give the proper amount. Can't recall scenario before, but took countless tries.

To be honest, I don't even think two city-states are guaranteed. Vagaries of the map-making process sometimes mean you get only 1 city state on a Duel map, as I did on an early try here.

Regardless, I am almost positive the number of city-states generated will not invalidate a HOF entry submission, though I am sure @aafritz17 will confirm.

 

[billybgame]

Yeah, guess we'll just wait for him to chime in. Only tried twice....got 2 both times.

3rd try gave me 3 C/S....best yet. Sure wish AAFritz would comment.

Edit again: Tried a few more...2, 3. So I've gotten 2 a number of times and 3 twice. Just can't ever get 4.

Guess I'll set this aside for now.

 

[billybgame]

I have tried and retried this countless times. Never get 4...vast majority of times it's 2 C/S. Appears crux of the problem is that it only places C/S in lower L part of map...SW area. Never see them on N side of map. Or other corners. That's why it never gets to 4.

 

[aafritz17]

Sorry, I have been busy with a bunch of R/L issues, haven't been here for a few days. (The minor emergency I had mentioned somewhere was an ice storm, knocked the electricity out for 4 days, and I was out of town for 3 of them. So not here to run my generator. Resulted in a very flooded basement. Still dealing with the effects. The insurance adjuster was here a couple of hours ago, says it's gonna result at in least some construction-type repairs.)

Yes, Lakes is one of the troublesome maps. I got three C/S on some attempts, four on a couple, and one time there was only one. My best effort so far only had three. So I submitted it to see what the parser thought of it, and it passed. I remember @billybgame having several games that did that, maybe a year ago (maybe on Highlands?) I had asked @Noble Zarkon and some others involved with the database if they knew why, and I don't think we ever figured out a real reason.

All I know to do is to go ahead and submit the games. I'll try to get in here more often. I can see if a game is going to pass without doing the actual update, and if I see any, I'll PM you.

Also, rather than "Reject" games with this problem, I'll check to see if it's okay to just delete the submission. (Does that seem right to you all?)

 

[billybgame]

This is Great Plains, not Lakes. Right?

I have given up quickly each time....once find not 4 C/S. I've tried at least 15 times and never gotten 4. Anywhere from 1 to 3. But never 4. Would it be better to run with 3...I assume...or does it not matter?

 

[aafritz17]

This is Great Plains, not Lakes. Right?

I have given up quickly each time....once find not 4 C/S. I've tried at least 15 times and never gotten 4. Anywhere from 1 to 3. But never 4. Would it be better to run with 3...I assume...or does it not matter?

Yes, Great Plains (my bad).

 

[billybgame]

So got this done with 3 C/S...just could never get 4. Turn 248/1030 AD.

 

[Valasynthia]

dunno if 1 city was the best idea but I tried a few more times and had trouble getting a lower time

 

[zenmaster]

dunno if 1 city was the best idea but I tried a few more times and had trouble getting a lower time

You did as well as you could do going the standard Aesthetics Tourism route. Quite good!

If going for the fastest Culture win at this level, especially with Byzantium which has a bonus religious belief (!), you want to go the Sacred Sites route.

I did a general write-up on culture victories a while back.
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/g-minor-cxliii.615007/#post-14755410