Gambling should be banned

Ban gambling?


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Somebody should really do statistics on the matter- people who enjoy gambling v.s people whose lives are ruined on it (factoring for the few who are both). That would give more data for assesment.

and then people who enjoy keeping guns at home and get shot, people who smoke and get cancer, people who drink and become alcoholics, people with access to the internet who become addicted to that, people who like to eat doughnuts and cake and get a bypass, people who like to drive fast and get into an accident, astronauts who die in a space shuttle explosion....

do you really need data to reafirm "everything in moderation"?
 
Have taxes from the casinos divert towards treatment programs and other social/infrastructural projects. Communities and counties should have the absolute power to block such establishments for some area around. Other than that, you can't outlaw the entire practice. The stock market is gambling, isn't it?
 
If you really want to ban casinos, you should really ban churches too. They are after in the same business: parting fools from their money.

And fools will be parted from their money regardless. Fine they can't gamble away instead they'll wire transfer $400,000 to King Obongo of Zambeziland to help him get his millions from his offshore bank account. Or they''l buy 100 boxes of penis enlargement pills.
 
Gambling is awesome.

Betting money on something makes it more fun. I feel for people who cannot control themselves for whatever reason. I've had somewhat of a gambling problem at various points in the past & can understand the feeling one gets from it that makes it hard to stop.

That said, banning gambling is stupid. It's as dumb as banning alcohol or caffeine. Just makes it go underground.
 
It sure is depressing. I rarely step out of the restaurant out onto the casino floor where I work because its so depressing.

Probably 80% of our customers are compulsive gamblers. Gambling money is not made by people drinking and having a good time while playing table games. They make all their money off of old people who sit on slot machines 8hrs a day.
 
It sure is depressing. I rarely step out of the restaurant out onto the casino floor where I work because its so depressing.

Probably 80% of our customers are compulsive gamblers. Gambling money is not made by people drinking and having a good time while playing table games. They make all their money off of old people who sit on slot machines 8hrs a day.
Yeah, casino gamblers are depressing indeed. I saw a ton of these types while in Vegas (walked out of the casino up $616 from a chess tournament :D). Just throwing their money away with blank, numb expressions on their faces. The thing is though, these types would probably throw their money away on something else if not gambling. These people alone is not a good reason to ban it (anymore than the same poor souls who waste thousands a year on infomercial products isn't a good reason to ban infomercials).

Change the culture that spawns these types and you change the behavior. The government stepping in & trying to control the masses over something like this will only beget backlash.

Vegas is going to die a rather painful death in the near future anyway (hopeful after Elta & his friends & fam have jumped ship!) as the economy implodes on itself anyway.

I never gamble with the hustlers anymore (whether they be big casinos or guys on the street). You master & control the game on your own terms & you're unlikely to lose much (if you lose at all). :)

BTW, for the few who say we should ban gambling, should all friendly wagers be banned also? If so, how in the world do you expect such a ban to be enforced?

Also, seems like a casino ban would devastate the Native American population.
 
It sure is depressing. I rarely step out of the restaurant out onto the casino floor where I work because its so depressing.

Probably 80% of our customers are compulsive gamblers. Gambling money is not made by people drinking and having a good time while playing table games. They make all their money off of old people who sit on slot machines 8hrs a day.
Fifty is correct. Casino profits are all from slot machines. In NM 80% of all coin in must be paid out to players. The average casino hold on slots is about 7.5%

Fifty, what casino do you work at? One in Washington or Montana?
 
Fifty, what casino do you work at? One in Washington or Montana?

I work at an Indian casino in Washington (I transferred out of Montana a couple years ago and have been going to school here in WA)


Just so ya'll know, I'm not for banning gambling. Although more ought to be done about compulsive gambling. There is a big difference between friendly wagers on sports, or having fun with some buddies at a casino every now and then, and the REAL way casinos make their money (slot addicts). Its tough to say though what should be done. Its like anything else that can be ok in moderation, but can become addictive and destroy lives too (like alcohol).

Maybe they should have caps on the amount you can play in a given time period. It would be fairly easy to keep track of within a single casino, because slot machines are operated using cards now, not with real money.

I'd like to say "ooh well screw them if they're stupid then they deserve what they get!" but I think people who say that don't understand the nature of addiction.
 
Maybe they should have caps on the amount you can play in a given time period. It would be fairly easy to keep track of within a single casino, because slot machines are operated using cards now, not with real money.
That sounds like a good plan.

I'd like to say "ooh well screw them if they're stupid then they deserve what they get!" but I think people who say that don't understand the nature of addiction.
Nice sideways comment there but I never said that. I just said gambling shouldn't be banned outright. I expressed concern for these people & understanding of their problem.
 
Nice sideways comment there but I never said that. I just said gambling shouldn't be banned outright. I expressed concern for these people & understanding of their problem.

I never said you said that! I didn't even read the thread to see if anyone said that, I just find its a common sort of reaction to these sorts of things by people who don't know much about addiction.
 
I work at an Indian casino in Washington (I transferred out of Montana a couple years ago and have been going to school here in WA)


Just so ya'll know, I'm not for banning gambling. Although more ought to be done about compulsive gambling. There is a big difference between friendly wagers on sports, or having fun with some buddies at a casino every now and then, and the REAL way casinos make their money (slot addicts). Its tough to say though what should be done. Its like anything else that can be ok in moderation, but can become addictive and destroy lives too (like alcohol).

Maybe they should have caps on the amount you can play in a given time period. It would be fairly easy to keep track of within a single casino, because slot machines are operated using cards now, not with real money.

I'd like to say "ooh well screw them if they're stupid then they deserve what they get!" but I think people who say that don't understand the nature of addiction.

Should being the operative word. Telling a Casino to willingly lose money is like telling a diabetic to stop taking insulin.

Plus, people would find ways to get around it. Even if they didn't, that would just drive people towards other forms of betting imo. Maybe sports betting. Maybe cards. Maybe internet gambling.

Gambling is a horrible thing though. It enslaves people. It perpetuates itself inside a persons mind. "Maybe if I play again, i'll win, and pay off my debts... ok, I lost, i'm in too deep, i'll have to play until I win" I have never been ensnared inside gambling grips, but I can imagine. :(
 
I never said you said that! I didn't even read the thread to see if anyone said that, I just find its a common sort of reaction to these sorts of things by people who don't know much about addiction.
Ok then! Carry on! :hatsoff:
 
Should being the operative word. Telling a Casino to willingly lose money is like telling a diabetic to stop taking insulin.

Indeed. And passing state laws to reform Indian casinos is very difficult, as the tribes are very big donors to state legislators, governors, etc.

For instance, thanks to Tribal $$$ donated to our governor, it is now a felony in Washington to play Texas Hold 'Em online for real money, but there are tons of Indian casinos you can play all day at...
 
(hopeful after Elta & his friends & fam have jumped ship!)

Mike and Alex are geniuses, they should do well anywhere.

My step dad owns 1,000 acres in Bolivia.

My sister will be a nurse pretty soon and my brother in law is a prison guard. ...... no one is going to let me starve. ..... as far as taking care of my self. I have some work to do :lol:

The job I have right now isn't cutting it.
 
Indeed. And passing state laws to reform Indian casinos is very difficult, as the tribes are very big donors to state legislators, governors, etc.

For instance, thanks to Tribal $$$ donated to our governor, it is now a felony in Washington to play Texas Hold 'Em online for real money, but there are tons of Indian casinos you can play all day at...

Do state laws even apply to Indian reservations?

Anyway, thats the great thing(or horrible thing) about money. You can influence decision making quite easily with it, and the more you make, the more you influence. Thats why, in my opinion, strict campaign finance limits are necessary .
 
I hate gambling. My hometown has become the "gambling capital" of BC, with shiny new casinos dotting the waterfront. And I hate them. They're a blight on my hometown and all of society. Sure, they look sexy, but that's about the limit of the benefits they confer upon us.

Gambling offers no social benefits whatsoever. It destroys lives, families, and offers nothing in return. It's nothing but a way for the rich to literally steal from the working classes, except gambling is a lot less subtle than their preferred methods.

There are economic benefits, sure, but not everyone benefits economically from casinos. Those that own and control the casinos, invariably members of the ruling class, benefit, as does the government (also ruling class). No average person benefits economically from losing money. And certainly those that become addicted to gambling and piss away their life savings at the craps tables don't benefit from gambling.

Ban gambling. Run the casinos out of your town. Shut down Nevada.

Agree y/n?
I hope you're kidding.

I don't know how it is in mooseland, but in the civilised country I work in we go out of our way to spot, report and seek help when we see signs of addiction. Gambling addiction hurts the business. We have been working with the government to fight it. No social benefits? Please, first get a clue, then start issuing founded statements. I won't react any further to this gutty feely crap.

Maybe they should have caps on the amount you can play in a given time period. It would be fairly easy to keep track of within a single casino, because slot machines are operated using cards now, not with real money.
Bingo!

That's exactly what we do. There are legal limits to how much money someone on a slotmachine can loose. There are limits to how much variance there is in it's percentage. There are limits in the number of games per hour. Etc, and so forth.
 
Poker is no worse than Day Trading

huh, I'll let that sink in for a bit but I am afraid I know too little of stock markets to be able to compare the two. from what I do know I can see how you would make that connection, though.
 
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