Ok, this will be my last stab at uncovering what exactly makes socialists, leftists, altruists, egalitarianismists, and all permutations and combinations of these similar ideologies tick! It is a reality that the ONLY way the ideals of these folk can be obtained is through the threat of force and force itself. So....how is it justified? Doesn't it contradict the more passive-like nature of these schools of thought? Posts of a few sentences or less would be greatly appreciated, because if any justification for violence actually exists, it shouldn't take more than a paragraph to say.