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Yeah, if 720,000 children get it, and there are 74.2 million kids in the US, then it is more like 99%.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Are all those kids eligible?
From the original link:
The payments phase out for single parents with incomes above $112,500 per year and married parents with incomes above $150,000 per year.
So I am guessing most are. For it to be as low as 90% about 90% of US kids are in houses earning over $112,500 - $150,000.
Lexicus
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Jacobin's editors fudged the story's topline. What it should have said was 90% of eligible children whose families didn't file income tax returns- so, exactly the children in the deepest poverty whom the credit is supposed to be helping the most. And that's 720,000 children who are getting the credit out of about 7 million who are eligible but didn't file taxes, so 90% unreached.
Farm Boy
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Jacobin is pretty reliably lying, or useless, from my experience. But yes - that's exactly the point. They're pumping a horsehockyload of fiat into inflation, in a great percentage to people who do not need it, who will then bid out for goods the people who need it most, who aren't getting it. It's a real Biden ****job, near as I can tell.
The people you are giving it to is people with kids. As someone without them, it totally seems like that is a class that is likely to need it.
It really seems like to means test at such a high level is not worth it. There must be loads of costs in making it means tested, and what percentage of US families both earn more than $150k (median income ~ 31K) and would claim it must be less than what it costs to run.
Lexicus
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True, simply socializing child care would be a vastly superior option.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Oh dear, you said 'social'. That's communism.
Lexicus
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No, socialized like how in the Soviet Union child care was free to anyone at government-run facilities.
You mean school is communism!!!
Farm Boy
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A man whose childhood enjoyed that system is arguably my best friend. You should have seen the black market economy that actually raised children. Of course, in part. But I get the feeling there were people who enjoyed more relative privilege, which sounds sort of familiar.
But sure, keep childcare social. It's stupid otherwise.
Our rural school district waives all fees and provides 2 meals a day for children under income thresholds. School year or summer. Doesn't seem like a bad idea. We pay enough percentages in property tax that I'm pretty sure all these Trumpy enemies expect that to remain true.
But sure, keep childcare social. It's stupid otherwise.
Our rural school district waives all fees and provides 2 meals a day for children under income thresholds. School year or summer. Doesn't seem like a bad idea. We pay enough percentages in property tax that I'm pretty sure all these Trumpy enemies expect that to remain true.
Berzerker
Deity
Few states have more limited voting options than Delaware, a Democratic bastion that allowed little mail balloting before the pandemic hit.
Biden has assailed Georgia’s new voting law as an atrocity akin to “Jim Crow in the 21st century” for the impact it could have on Black citizens. But even once the GOP-passed measure takes effect, Georgia citizens will still have far more opportunities to vote before Election Day than their counterparts in the president’s home state, where one in three residents is Black or Latino. To Republicans, Biden’s criticism of the Georgia law smacks of hypocrisy. “They have a point,” says Dwayne Bensing, a voting-rights advocate with Delaware’s ACLU affiliate. “The state is playing catch-up in a lot of ways.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/04/democrats-voting-rights-contradiction/618599/
hypocrisy?
say it aint so
Biden has assailed Georgia’s new voting law as an atrocity akin to “Jim Crow in the 21st century” for the impact it could have on Black citizens. But even once the GOP-passed measure takes effect, Georgia citizens will still have far more opportunities to vote before Election Day than their counterparts in the president’s home state, where one in three residents is Black or Latino. To Republicans, Biden’s criticism of the Georgia law smacks of hypocrisy. “They have a point,” says Dwayne Bensing, a voting-rights advocate with Delaware’s ACLU affiliate. “The state is playing catch-up in a lot of ways.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/04/democrats-voting-rights-contradiction/618599/
hypocrisy?
say it aint so
Ferocitus
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A very interesting change of tack by the Biden administration.
Blinken to diplomats: It’s OK to admit U.S. flaws when promoting rights
The secretary of State shared details of his human rights and democracy priorities in a cable sent
to U.S. embassies around the world.
...
The cable is strikingly frank in acknowledging America’s internal challenges, a risky political move
given current conservative anger over educational and other attempts to highlight U.S. failures on
sensitive issues such as race. And while Blinken includes some cautious caveats about how to deal
with abusive allies, the message overall is a break from the strategy of former President Donald
Trump’s administration, which largely avoided criticizing the rights records of governments, such as
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, whose cooperation the U.S. needed on various fronts.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/16/blinken-us-human-rights-499833
Due to some oversight they omitted any mention of Israel in the article.
Blinken to diplomats: It’s OK to admit U.S. flaws when promoting rights
The secretary of State shared details of his human rights and democracy priorities in a cable sent
to U.S. embassies around the world.
...
The cable is strikingly frank in acknowledging America’s internal challenges, a risky political move
given current conservative anger over educational and other attempts to highlight U.S. failures on
sensitive issues such as race. And while Blinken includes some cautious caveats about how to deal
with abusive allies, the message overall is a break from the strategy of former President Donald
Trump’s administration, which largely avoided criticizing the rights records of governments, such as
Egypt and Saudi Arabia, whose cooperation the U.S. needed on various fronts.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/16/blinken-us-human-rights-499833
Due to some oversight they omitted any mention of Israel in the article.
Lexicus
Deity
bad thing bad when Republicans do it, also bad when Democrats do it
Berzerker
Deity
when both are bad its extra bad for one to cast stones, so sayeth the lord
Zardnaar
Deity
Challenge for you. Stop watching Fox news for a month or two. A year even better.
Avoid American news in general.
Bugfatty300
Buddha Squirrel
He watches youtube videos. I think Fox News would be a step up.
Zardnaar
Deity
I watch them as well. DW and rarely ABC.
I'm guessing he watches right wing opinion pieces.
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