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  1. stinkubus

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    I'll have you know that Jimmy Dore is the left-iest leftist who ever lefted.
     
  2. Ferocitus

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    Take two steps back: there's nothing about abolishing the death penalty on the wiki page for Movement for a People's Party which he supports.
     
  3. r16

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    apparently some Trump person has been arrested for lobbying for UAE , Al Crusading looked real happy about it . Of course something to remember that the Russians unveiled a programme for a "competitor" against F-35 in a very Western way of PR . ı don't any military jet project was marketed with a picture of the mockup under tarpaulins reading "Do you want to see me naked?" American response is in full gear , Russians can't , especially meeting the original F-35 cost of 35 million dollars each . And do not fall for mass media action of it was copied from Boeing's F-32 . Those who have self respect , have found a Northrop 540 something project , one of those affordable proposals in the early 1990s ; before Lockmart monopolized the robbery through the Footpad / F-35 ... The connection being that UAE might fund the Russian project ...


    edit: That should be Northrop MRF-54E .
     
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  4. Joij21

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    That's what happens to all lefties. They get so anti-western that they decide to sell their souls to the most anti-western regimes.

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  5. Drakle

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    https://twitter.com/ChrisMegerian/status/1417556721908817921

    America First (After Israel, the Gulf monarchies, Turkey and others get their snouts in the trough).

    And another guy lying to the FBI.

    And unlike Ukraine, the UAE made it out of the Trump era with some real gains. For the price of recognition of Israel that they wanted to do anyway for economic and security reasons, the UAE got piles of US weaponry on the cheap, including a ton of normally restricted stuff. But the person who made that happen, was like maybe 1% this guy, and 99% Kushner, who still isn't being prosecuted, but was bailed out by UAE money, and openly working in their interest.
     
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    Explain to me what you think is new or novel or different? That's not exactly a challenge, but I don't understand your point. As in you, not as in some article by somebody writing for pay. It's an invitation for, simply, an open-ended answer.
     
  7. Berzerker

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    Ukraine got Javelin anti-tank weapons from Trump
     
  8. Zardnaar

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    Not many and they're deployed in western Ukraine.
     
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    You can’t trust Moldova! Or Moldavia... I forget which one is the one. Anyway, I don’t know who they are or what they believe but I know they’re up to no good! :mad:
     
  10. Zardnaar

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    Poor bastards.
     
  11. amadeus

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    Ol' b&b always up to something Soviet.
     
  12. Zardnaar

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    Lol yeah. I think I've seen every video included in that mish mash.
     
  13. Bugfatty300

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    Trump's missiles also had a do-not-use-against-Russian-forces-under-no-circumstances clause.

    But at least corporate conflict profiteers still got subsidized to hock weapons that were contractually obligated to be pointless.
     
  14. Zardnaar

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    They were also "if the crap hits the fan wink wink".

    Apparently a rumor went around they were deployed and all the tanks in that part of the Donbass mysteriously disappeared for a bot.

    Basically the US was saying we don't want to directly help you but we're not throwing you under the bus either.

    If the Russians pushed harder more missiles get sent and they "somehow" get used.

    They don't want to piss the Russians off to much. The Russians know roughly where the line is drawn, kick that can down the street.

    Putin's many things. Stupids not one of them.
     
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    Assuming Ukraine has their own missiles or missiles sourced from another country, the American ones can lie dormant while the Ukrainians use the non-American ones without so many supply issues.

    Sending arms directly to Ukraine with the explicit agreement they are to be used against Russians is a greater escalation, and the goal of U.S. policymakers (in my opinion) should be to get Russia to be more compliant in respecting Ukraine’s borders rather than killing Russian conscripts.
     
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    "Not intended for use against Russians" warning label seems to be a uniquely child-like Trump thing.

    Obama refused to supply Javelins at all.

    Biden supplies the weapons without any deployment stipulations.
     
  17. Zardnaar

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    Plausible deniability. "We told them not to use them maybe you should stay in Russia da"?

    If Bidens supplying them without restrictions it's a big F you to Putin.
     
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    The thing about plausible deniability (outside of Hollywood and comical 1960s CIA failures) is that your denials have to be plausible to the people you're lying to.
     
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    ABC News, 22 July 2021 - "Mississippi asks Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade"

    They're also asking the Court to overturn Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992). I don't recall the details of the two cases right now. The Mississippi case was actually taken by the Court in May, but yesterday the Mississippi lawyers broadened their case somehow. I'm not quite sure how that works, from a legal perspective, but from a political perspective, they're simply trying to reverse a woman's right to choose. I'm not a fan of "slippery slope" arguments, but I still can't help thinking that the brief submitted by the state's lawyer seems to suggest that she doesn't believe in unenumerated rights (e.g. the right to privacy, the right to marry, etc.*).


    EDIT: I haven't read the whole brief, so I'm just going by the quotes selected by this ABC News article, but...
    So they're not arguing that when a child becomes viable has changed. They're just arguing that when a fetus starts to look recognizable should be our benchmark instead. That just seems like another way of saying, "You shouldn't be allowed to do anything that makes me feel icky."



    * I've always wondered how a textualist reconciles unenumerated rights. Probably a separate question from this case, but it made me think of it.
     
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  20. Drakle

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    The legal arguments don't matter. They will make something up either way. The only choice is

    -Do they continue to chip away at abortion rights a piece at a time as they have been doing for decades
    -Or do they finally bite the bullet, and just do it, kicking off a mess.

    But Manchin and Sinema have already forcibly disarmed Democrats teeth in response, so they've weakened the potential backlash's power, and made the second far more likely.
     

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