I recently started an emperor game as Gilgamesh(fractal, normal speed/size) where I got an isolated start. It's a pretty damn nice start, with 2 gold, a floodplains river, stone, and ample food on a round island I can fogbust with 6-7 warriors. There's room for maybe 7-8 super cities, or 12+ nice cities if they share a bit of food. With the 12+ city route, I can get about 7 or 8 coastal cities with the rest working the flood plains cottages or running scientists. Pyramids are definitely being grabbed in my capital. Would GLH be worth it in this scenario? I know I won't see much benefit from it with domestic trade routes, but overseas trade routes will be huge when I can get them. I'm also going to be rushing Astronomy anyways to meet people, so it seems like there is some logic to grabbing GLH. There's also a few potential city locations for 2nd or 3rd city with 4-5 forests I can chop into it, so I have no doubts that I can get it if I want it. On the flip side, going GLH will delay my settler production, will delay how long it takes me to start running scientists, and thus delay my bulbs towards Astro. Effectively I'd be getting my trade routes later, but they'd be worth a lot more. After meeting people I would also want to give that investment a chance to pay for itself, which would likely mean I wouldn't have the strength/techs to stop an AI that's getting out of control, or take advantage of a weak one. Curious to hear what everyone's thoughts are on GLH in isolation. I can see some pros and cons for both arguments, but I just don't know which argument wins out.