Go?

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Does anyone here play the strategy game Go? I have recently started playing, but only against one other person who knows just a little bit more than I do. Wondering if anyone has any good advice or links for a novice player.
 
I really wish I could help but I only played it once, and didn't do that great. I will see if I can get with a firend and ask about it, but not sure if he will be able.

LLXerxes said:
I've never heard of it. Screenshots?

It a type of Japanese (I think) Board game.
 
Screenshots would be pretty dull. As Chaos says, it is a board game played on 19x19 square grid. Players alternate placing black and white stones on the intersection points of the grid. To remain alive, a stone most have at least one open space ("liberty") adjacent to it. Stones of the same color which are adjacent along the grid lines are said to be connected and they share their Liberties. When a stone or group of stones loses its last liberty, it is "captured." Keeping stones alive is merely a means. The goal of the game is for your stones to capture territory. If you think about the 'keeping stones alive' rules, it should be abvious that a portion of the board surrounded by one color of stones is 'safe.' When the players feel that there are no more profitable moves to be made, they determine who controls which territory, they count the number of open intersection points in their territory, subtract the number of their stones which have been captured, and that is there score. Functionally, what you do is fill up your opponents territory with your captured stones to make the counting easier.

This game is one of those easy to learn, difficult to master games, like chess only more so. Low level games,like I have played, involve lots of rows of black and white stones next to each other and lots of captures. In high level games, the players rarley actually capture stones because both players know when a stone (or a group) is doomed and they do not need to waste turns by killing it off. Unless the doomed group's side manages to reach out from another part of the board to 'rescue' them, they will be removed as if captured at the end of the game.

The game has its origins in China, but has millenia old roots throughout East Asia. (Currently, the Koreans are generally received as the best players, but the balance of power has shifted over the years among Chine, Japan and Korea. It is kind of like the Rider's Cup in golf.) Only handful of Westerners have ever achieved professional rank as Go players. I will not be one of them, but I like the game just the same...
 
Yay, go.

Let me help you (and anybody else who's interested) on the way a bit:

A PDF-file with an introduction to Go, very good:
http://www.usgo.org/usa/waytogo/W2Go8x11.pdf

A free computer program that plays on a 9x9 board:
http://www.smart-games.com/igowin.html

More info about rules, and how to study:
http://senseis.xmp.net/?BeginnerStudySection

Once you feel you're ready to start playing against real people (which could (should ?) be right away: human teachers are, as with almost everything, the best way to learn), you have several options as to where you can play:

*) In person: http://senseis.xmp.net/?GoPlaces has a list of Go Federations over the world

*) On the internet, in "real time". Two major choices here:
- IGS: http://www.pandanet.co.jp/English/
- KGS: http://kgs.kiseido.com/
I like KGS better, and you should too.

*) Internet, "turn-based". The only choice here is Dragon: http://www.dragongoserver.net/.

My username on both KGS and Dragon is "uXs". Look for me and I'll be glad to play some teaching games. I'm not very good either, but I can teach total beginners.
 
I've now played it 3 times and somehow managed to win twice. You can play it on yahoo btw.
 
Yes, you can play on Yahoo, but you really shouldn't. It's quite horrible compared to the real go servers.
 
Seems to be that they just don't like the way Yahoo run their games rather than anything specific...
 
@uXs- Thanks for the advice. I am signed on at Dragon as "Terrapin" and have started my first two 9x9 games. Look for me and we can have a game, if you are not afraid of facing a board full of handicap stones....
 
Ooh coolies! Go! That's cooool! I play it, I think I reached <10 kyu once.
 
I've heard of it, and played it once. It's kind of addicting.
 
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