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God Slay'd

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Fall from Heaven' started by DarkxL0rd, Aug 28, 2009.

  1. DarkxL0rd

    DarkxL0rd Warlord

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    well i won a domination victory on final five with the illians, played extra 160(2 hours) turns just so i could ascend auric and add it to my trophy room. very first stack he attacked had a beastmaster with... you guessed it. i felt perturbed a bit. if this had happened in a MP game i woulda been a little more upset.
     
  2. GIR

    GIR It'sNotStupidIt'sAdvanced

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  3. Luckmann

    Luckmann Esusian Epicure

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    Bwahahaha. :D
    If I ever play the Illians to get Auric Ascended, I'm going to be paranoid about attacking anything. :p
     
  4. Keeper_GFA

    Keeper_GFA Prince

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    Why attack with him at all? You're just taking experience away from your other units who can buy promotions.
     
  5. JeffSteel

    JeffSteel Warlord

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    Indeed, think of Auric Ascended as the latest in mobile artillery. His mobility allows for excellent positioning, place him on a peak or off the coast if possible. Soften up a cities defenses with his snowfall (which is uber compared to the version the high priests of winter get) then send in the troops. If sheer destruction is what is important, soften up a stack with your preists of winters snowfall or whatever ese you got, then use Auric's snowfall, which will kill a good percentage of the units outright. I've outright killed hundreds of units in a single cast of Auric's snowfall when last I used him to assualt a good civ fortified on another continent with Basium as his ally, so many of those units I had to kill twice.
     
  6. DarkxL0rd

    DarkxL0rd Warlord

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    Oh i don't know, the mere fact that i spent 2 hours just to see him in action!
     
  7. WCH

    WCH Prince

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    As JeffSteel says, don't think of him as an attacking unit... he's not very good at it, tends to die easy that way. And because he doesn't gain XP there's no point. His spell is ridiculously powerful though, and his high strength means he's going to be pretty hard for the enemy to drive off.
     
  8. Feyd Rautha

    Feyd Rautha Prince

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    So I'm guessing Godslayer doesn't show up on the promotions list? Interesting... makes attacking with him at all not that appealing.
     
  9. Luckmann

    Luckmann Esusian Epicure

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    Can anyone confirm this? I don't think anyone said it doesn't show up on the promotions list. I see no reason for it not to.
     
  10. FireBlaze

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    I would think that the +1000% against avatar would be there too.
     
  11. Kael

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    It isn't hidden and the +1000% shows up in the combat odds.
     
  12. DarkxL0rd

    DarkxL0rd Warlord

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    it wasnt hidden i just didnt look. to eager
     
  13. Mailbox

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    As others have said, Auric is a great artillery unit with the strength to break a single unit every now and again. The best way to use him is with Ice III Archmages or High Priests of Winter casting snowfall first then following up with his Snowfall, then attacking with your stack if there is anything left. Also I haven't tried this but would guardsman protect Auric from the Godslayer? I don't think that it would but then again I'm blanking on how exactly Guardsman works so I don't know.
     
  14. WarKirby

    WarKirby Arty person

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    Something I discovered recently. The Godslayer is hardcoded to always win. That +1000% vs avatar is pretty much just for show. If auric takes on someone holding the godslayer, he dies regardless of the outcome. Even if you give it to a worker or a scout.
     
  15. Emptiness

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    The bonus vs Avatar guarantees that the unit with Godslayer will defend against Auric, so that the unit with it protects its stack from him.
     
  16. MagisterCultuum

    MagisterCultuum Great Sage

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    Personally, I'd much prefer it if promotions could have the <UnitClassTargets>, <UnitCombatTargets>, <UnitClassDefenders>, and <UnitCombatDefenders> tags, and especially if similar <PromotionTargets>, and <PromotionDefenders> tags were added too. That way, you could could make Marksmen have spells that let them switch out different promotions to target different units, rather than only going for the weakest. The Netherblade could also target Heros, and the Godslayers Avatars. You could get rid of the bonus vs Avatar and hide the promotion so that it is nearly impossible to know what unit could slay your god (well, apart from the magic immunity and extra strength.)


    Would it be too much to make it so that The Godslayer could slay Auric Ascended without even an actual battle if and when he casts Snowfall_greater within range of the unit bearing the weapon?
     
  17. Mailbox

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    Yes it would.
     
  18. [to_xp]Gekko

    [to_xp]Gekko QCT junkie

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    quick question: if a unit has the godslayer and attacks a huge illian stack with Auric Ascended present, will Auric defend and die?
     
  19. MagisterCultuum

    MagisterCultuum Great Sage

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    The Avatar promotion weighs him heavily to defend first and his base strength makes him defend sooner too, so it would be very unlikely for another unit to take the fall for him.
     
  20. [to_xp]Gekko

    [to_xp]Gekko QCT junkie

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    sure, but shouldn't that -1000% mean that other strong units ( possibly with guardsman ) are going to defend?
     

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