GOTM 128 Spoiler

[Major Advantage]

So it is scenario with a revealed map, no proper OCC-site nearby, two settlers, mediocre terrain in general, this sound like a good setup for EC...

If it wasn't for that island way down in the south which I named "Wasteland" or "Nowaja Semlja" (an artic island the Russians used for nuclear tests). So despite the good EC-setup, I decided to take the challenge! I wouldn't want to be the ruler of a devastated world, suffering from endless cycles of global warming! Instead, I would clean up this apocalyptic mess, civilize the world and reach for the stars.

This took way longer than usual, I think I also took up a bad habit of mine and got lost in the game and just "played along".

Here is the first part of my log:
plan: ??? start settling the continent, wait for pollution effects;
tech plan: monarchy -> trade -> republic(?)

-4000 Peking founded, 2nd settler starts moving se to found potential SSC with gold and pheasant
-3950 researching Alphabet
-3750 Alph->CoL, Shanghai founded
-3400 Peking settler, newspaper reports scientists warning about global warming
-3350 CoL -> Monarchy (of course, it's scenario!)
-3250 Canton founded (on river)
-3200 Shanghai size 2, work gold for science and -3050 discovery of monarchy (delaying settler production)
-3150 global warming! pheasant turns to buffalo
-3050 Shanghai settler, shrinks => 1 lousy beaker short for monarchy

plan: Do something about pollution (ship 2 settlers over to clean up), focus on ocean specials for new cities, send warriors to nearby AIs

-3000 Mon -> Bronze
-2850 Monarchy established
-2600 Next warning of warming
-2500 Nanking founded (southern coast, on jungle, access to fish and whale)
-2450 Bronze -> MM
-2400 Meet Vikings, give CB, Mon, get MM, Curr., peace
-2350 Research to trade
-2300 Next event (Shanghai now has peat), Tsingtao founded (jungle, with spice and whale)
-2250 Vikings demand withdraw, refuse, war; Shanghai starts wonder
-2100 Meet Aztec warrior, give monarchy, MM, get Math, peace
-1850 Trade -> Writing
-1750 Warning
-1450 Event, Shanghai in trouble now
-1400 1st settler lands on Wasteland
-1350 Writing -> pottery; meet russians, they demand 150g, refuse, war
-1200 Viking warrior near Shanghai, spend some gold, hail, cease fire for Bronze
-1100 1st pollution cleaned by barely rescued Shanghai settler, Chengdu founded
-1000 Hangchow founded

stats at 1000 BC:
cities: 8; techs: 11 (pottery), gov: Monarchy, gold: 118, polluted tiles: 24 (1 worked on)
units: 4 settler, 2 warriors, 1 boat, 1 dip, 1 phalanx
wonders: -

 

[Inkerman]

Hi Major,

I found the pollution on Nowaja Semlja meant I didn't have a feel for how the game would go. I expected there would be repeated icecap meltings, but I didn't know how often or how severe they would be and what the impact on progress would be. I imagine the game composer had established things so there would be several cycles, no matter what the player did.

I did think the repeated meltings would curtail the AI, and that I would choose significantly more successful city sites than the AI in the peculiar circumstances. I would try only to build on coastal sites with access to an ocean special.

It should not be difficult to win, eventually. It was a case of judging how to time the investment in pollution removal.

One idea was I should move all spare settlers in the direction of the pollution, making some cities as I go, maybe 6 or so, with the aim to start clearing the pollution quickly. But I wasn't at all confident that I could make sufficient settlers available soon enough to make enough difference. I suppose I felt I could end up some way into the game with all my energy going into pollution cleanup.

In practice I resigned myself to establishing a working civilization around the starting point, with a later expansion in the direction of the pollution. Looking back from the current year - I am a long way in now but not yet finished - I may have overdone the waiting - but then I got diverted as seems to happen to many of us with this game. I am impressed you had already got some pollution cleared in 1000BC.

With the flood warnings I took a one turn delay to build Beijing on high ground. The second city came on the coast with access to whales. For the third I deviated from the guidance, to get a city that first flourished and then floundered as the terrain around it changed.

Like you I switched to monarchy in 2850 (discovering it that turn), and met the Vikings before 1000 BC with predictable results - it makes up for the "villages only" barbarian settings I suppose.

I didn't keep a summary status or save from 1000BC but I see from my log I had 9 cities then and also 11 techs. I think your game with one city less and settlers already working on pollution will have the edge.

regards, Inkerman

 

[Inkerman]

1000 BC - 1 AD

I would do things a bit differently with hindsight, but here's the log.

1000- Emissary from Vikings - we refuse Monarchy, they declare war and attack.
925- Another warming warning.
900- Discover Seafaring --> Mysticism.
800- Icecaps melt. Beijing completes Marco Polo Embassy.
We are supreme and spotless.
Embassy Greeks (3 sticks) - give Seafaring to get Mysticism.
Embassy Aztecs (1 stick) - give Writing, get their map.
Embassy Japanese (2 sticks) - give Ceremonial burial.
Embassy Indians ( 4 sticks) - give Mapmaking, give Mysticism to get Horseback Riding.
Embassy Russians ( 0 sticks) - give a couple of techs to see their map.
Found Anyang.
750- Vikings archer comes next to Canton demanding money - they shout war! again. Our phalanx holds them off.
725- Emissary Greeks (3 sticks), give Monarchy, get Polytheism.
700- Found Shantung.
675- Found Chinan.
650- Found Kaifeng.
625- Discover Literacy --> Philosophy.
Elephant in Canton just beats Viking archer in swamp, and becomes veteran.
600- Aztecs develop Maths. Shanghai builds harbour.
525- Japanese develop Maths. Found Ningpo.
500- Meet another Viking archer near Canton - vet elly despatches.
475- Found Paoting.
400- Discover Philosophy --> Monotheism --> Republic.
Silver van delivery from Nanking to Tenochtitlan (Aztec) - 60g.
375- More melting, makes it impossible to land and attack Viking cities in a turn.
350- Vikings bribe my warriors (using warriors.)
Demand tribute from Japanese - 150g. Greeks also give 150g. Indians give 200g. Russians 200g.
Swap Literacy to get Maths from Aztecs.
325- Found Yangchow. Unsuccessful attack on Trondheim.
225- Discover Republic --> Astronomy.
200- Found Pingpong.
150- Raze Viking city of Kaupang. Revolution - aim to grow a few cities that have harbours.
125- Become republic.
100- Found Knifing.
75- Warming warning.
AD1 {save}Give Republic and Writing to Indians

Status at 1 AD

Population: 58 (1,240,000); Cities: 21; Trade routes: 0D1F; Government: Republic
Gold: 3; Cost per turn: 10; Total advances: 20; Mfg: 60; GNP 213;
Wonders: HG, MPE.
Units: 8 Warriors, 5 Phalanx, 1 Elephant, 4 Crusaders, 5 Trireme, 2 Dips, 6 Caravan.
T3L6S1. Discoveries every 29 turns. Supreme and Spotless.

Russians: Uncooperative, Peace, 67g, 3 cities, 9 techs
Japanese: Uncooperative, Peace, 102g, 3 cities, 8 techs
Vikings: Uncooperative, War, 199g, 3 cities, 11 techs
Aztecs: Enthusiastic, Peace, 219g, 4 cities, 11 techs
Greeks: Uncooperative, Peace, 207g, 4 cities, 11 techs
Indians: Enthusiastic, Peace, 109g, 2 cities, 10 techs

 

[Major Advantage]

Is nobody else playing this game?

Comparing our logs, I was way behind in cities (as usual , I wouldn't know where to put all those cities) but more or less even in techs. I also bult the Pyramids to help the cities grow with their poor terrain.

Here is how my story went on:

-975 Marco Polo completed, vikings won't share techs, contact Indians, give some techs, get mysticism, alliance
-950 Vikings sneak attack settler, get poly from Indians, rb Elefant
-925 Vikings fought off, next warning; plan: take care of Vikings first
-900 Indians take Kaupang, Tientsin founded (cont. 7)
-800 Pottery -> seafaring; EVENT
-750 ele attacks viking phalanx, wins but not vet
-625 Riots in Tsingtao
-600 Attack Trondheim with Ellis, both die to Archers
-525 Second settlers starts working wastelands, 5 tiles already cleaned
-500 WARNING; Seafaring -> Literacy
-450 Land Catapult&Phalanx on swamp outside Trondheim
-425 Trondheim captured, 43g+WC
-400 Bribe Uppsala (144g), 58 in return, Viking defeated; next goals: Mike's & Explosivs
-375 EVENT (Shanghai in trouble again, need to settle in wastelands); More riots, buy HG for 80g
-300 South Waste founded (to prevent Shanghai settler from starving)
-250 Aztecs steal myst.
-225 Literacy -> Philo
-100 Pyramids built
-75 WARNING
-25 Philo -> Mono -> University

stats at 1 AD:
cities: 13; techs: 19 (University), gov: Monarchy, gold: 180, cost per turn: 4 (all harbours), polluted tiles: 14 (2 worked on)
units: 5 settler, 2 vans, 2 boats, 1 dip, 8 fighting units
wonders: Pyramids, HG, Marco Polo

AI:
Russia: 3 cities, 13 techs, despo, peace
Japan: 3 cities, 8 techs, despo, war
France: 1 city, 10 techs, Mon, not contacted
Aztecs: 5 cities, 11 techs, Mon, peace
Greece: 4 cities, 13 techs, Mon, peace
India: 5 cities, 17 techs, Mon, allied

plan: build Mike's soon, when pollution under control: switch to better government, work on terrain, colonize world, start trade

20 Aztecs almost done with colossus, give Literacy for construction, hope they change to GL, Anyang founded
(Aztecs build colossus)
100 Indians destroy Paris
200 Shantung founded (cont. #2), pollution warning disappeared
300 Mike's Chapel built
340 1st delivery: copper(d) Shanghai > Teno 108g
360 Kaifeng, Chinan founded
400 Republic -> Medicine (next tech goal explosives, turn Tsingtao SSC)
440 Should be able to run republic => revolution
460 Republic established
480 Get Medicine from Aztecs, wheel from Greeks
500 Researching Engineering, gold(d) to Teno, 150g, oil(u) 56g, raise Lux for some celebrations
540 Eng.-> chemnistry
640 chemn. -> Invention
660 get IW from Aztecs, several AI already working on Copernicus
720 Invention -> Gunpowder
800 Gunpowder -> Explosives
880 Yangchow founded, 150g gift from India
900 Explos. -> Banking, sign peace with Japan, Gemopolis (cont. #7, with access to 2 gems, wheat and whale) founded
960 Get Bridge-Building + HBR from Russia
1000 Banking -> Democracy, get Nav. from Aztecs

stats at 1000 AD
pop: 2.65M; cities: 24; techs: 36 (Democracy), gov: Rep, gold: 151, cost per turn: 20 (16 harbours), polluted tiles: 6 (not worked on)
units: 3 settler, 6 engineers, 2 vans, 3 boats, 2 dip, 8 fighting units
wonders: Pyramids, HG, Marco Polo, Mike's, Copernicus

AI:
Russia: 6 cities, 16 techs, Mon, peace
Japan: 4 cities, 12 techs, despo, peace
Germany: 1 city, 17 techs, Mon, peace
Aztecs: 7 cities, 31 techs (due to GL), Rep, peace; Col. & GL
Greece: 5 cities, 18 techs, Mon, peace, GW
India: 5 cities, 27 techs, Rep, allied; LH

Gemopolis was a great trading city and it was in constant demand of oil, which Tsingtao could supply, resulting in payouts of 1797g after both cities were fully grown and had the neccessary improvements.
Right now I am almost finished, it's just a few more turns until my full-size spaceship arrives.

 

[Inkerman]

I agree with Major that it does seem a bit quiet here this month. Here's a trimmed log for me to the same point as the previous post.

AD20- Icecaps melt. Vikings pay 150g for peace.
Caravan Tientsin - Moscow, Spice (undemanded), for 60g.
80- Greeks sneak and destroy a caravan near one of their cities. Russians and Greeks sign an alliance against us and swap several techs. Discover Astronomy --> University.
120- Revolution.
140- Revert to Monarchy - population 70. All top 5 cities are ours.
200- Freight Chinan Island - Shantung Island, Spice (undemanded), for 38g.
240- 150g from Japanese. 25g from Vikings. 100g from Russians. 150g from Indians.
280- Warming warning.
300- Aztecs nearly completed Great Library.
320- Teotihuacan builds Great Library.
380- Icecaps melt.
400- Give Polytheism to Japanese (Aztecs get from Great Library) - they give us 50g.
Get 50g from Vikings, Russians. Give Pottery to Indians, get 50g. Greeks pay 200g to make peace.
420- Greeks and Russians go to war with each other. Found Carping.
440- Beijing builds Michaelangelo Chapel. Science rate goes up.
540- Discover University --> Economics. Give University to Aztecs. They give us 175g.
Share maps with Indians. Greeks refuse tribute. Japanese pay 50g.
560- Vikings steal Horseback Riding, Aztecs get it from Great Library. We go to war; they kill Crusaders.
580- We settle peace with Vikings for 50g.
600- Give University to Indians. Give Republic to Russians.
Give Republic, Philosophy and University to Greeks, and they swap maps.
620- Give Monarchy to Indians. They have 18 techs, we have 23.
660- Greeks capture Kiev. Indians destroy Hladir. Russians liberate Kiev.
680- Greeks capture Minsk.
700- Discover Economics --> Construction. Beijing builds library. Swap Banking for Iron Working from Greeks. Russians, Japanese and Vikings all not interested in swapping.
720- Icecaps melt. Nanking builds library. Found Reaching. Japanese give 50g.
740- Russians decline to swap techs. Greeks (5 sticks) give us 200g.
760- Greeks capture Moscow.
780- Greeks develop Feudalism. Caravan, Shantung Is - Beijing, Spice, for 96g.
820- Swap Astronomy to Aztecs for The Wheel.
840- Discover Construction --> Engineering.
860- Beijing builds Adam Smith, having used 8 caravans to do so.
880- Get 25g from Vikings, they will not swap techs. Get 150g from Greeks, 200g from Indians.
900- Get 50g from Russians.
940- Caravan Pingpong - Nanking, Spice, for 42g.
960- Another warning. Caravan Paoting - Beijing, Gems, for 54g.
980- Discover Engineering --> Invention. Two settlers start removing pollution, more are on the way. Found John O'Groats.

Status at 1000

Population: 90 (2,350,000); Cities: 24; Trade routes: 6D2F; Government: Monarchy
{counting both ends of domestic routes}
Gold: 521; Cost per turn: 0 (Adam Smith); Total advances: 28; Mfg: 92; GNP 67;
Wonders: HG, MPE, Michaelangelo, Adam Smith. Others = Great Library (Aztec).
Units: 21 Settlers, 14 Warriors, 9 Phalanx, 1 Elephant, 4 Crusaders, 8 Trireme, 2 Dips, 16 Vans.
T3L1S6. Discoveries every 8 turns. Supreme and Spotless.

Russians: (0) Uncooperative, Peace, 30g, 1 city, 17 techs
Japanese: (2) Uncooperative, Peace, 132g, 3 cities, 13 techs
Vikings: (1) Uncooperative, Peace, 66g, 3 cities, 14 techs
Aztecs: (4) Enthusiastic, Peace, 355g, 4 cities, 24 techs
Greeks: (5) Uncooperative, Peace, 154g, 8 cities, 23 techs
Indians: (3) Enthusiastic, Peace, 63g, 4 cities, 21 techs

Conclusion: Similar to Major Advantage's game in city stats and diplomacy at this stage, but 8 techs behind and it does not reflect the fact that in that game pollution has now been controlled, and soon enough that the world will have retained some good land. I did not appreciate that enough pollution could be removed before the warming events had run their full course. Comparing logs the second reason for my slower game was less successful wars with the Vikings. These two factors will no doubt make a big difference by the end: I plan to run through to a max spaceship too.

 

[Major Advantage]

So it is still just two for tea!

Conclusion: Similar to Major Advantage's game in city stats and diplomacy at this stage, but 8 techs behind and it does not reflect the fact that in that game pollution has now been controlled, and soon enough that the world will have retained some good land. I did not appreciate that enough pollution could be removed before the warming events had run their full course. Comparing logs the second reason for my slower game was less successful wars with the Vikings. These two factors will no doubt make a big difference by the end: I plan to run through to a max spaceship too.

The difference in techs might partly result form tech-gifting: The indians were too far away to be a threat, so I did not hesitate to give them all (or at least most) techs they wanted to lower my costs. When the Aztecs had GL I was more careful about it, but resumed tech-dumping after electricity.
The Vikings in my game were brave (or rather stupid) and started war with everybody around them, so they lost two cities to me, one to Aztecs, one to India and were gone. It felt almost like the Partitions of Poland in the 18th century.

I didn't do much in the next part, mostly improving terraing and slowly progress through the tech tree.

1040 Shakesbeers Theater built
1100 Demo (revolt&establish) -> Sanitation
1160 Sanitation -> Theo
1220 Theo -> Econ.
1300 Eco -> Gravitiy (Aztecs working on physics)
1360 Gravity -> physics
1380 join India's war with Japan for 200g
1420 Bach cathedral built, physics (right after Aztecs had it ) -> Magnetism
1460 get Metall from Aztecs
1480 Mag -> Steam
1510 Steam -> Railroad
1520 Final pollution cleaned!

stats at 1520 AD
pop: 6.4M; cities: 25; techs: 36 (Democracy), gov: Rep, gold: 92, cost per turn: 33 (20 harbours), polluted tiles: 0
units: 25 engineers, 10 vans, 4 boats, 3 dip, 9 fighting units
wonders: Pyramids, HG, Marco Polo, Mike's, Copernicus, Shakesbeer, Bach

AI:
Russia: 6 cities, 17 techs, Mon, peace
Japan: 6 cities, 13 techs, despo, war
Germany: 2 cities, 19 techs, Mon, peace
Aztecs: 7 cities, 34 techs (due to GL), Rep, peace; Col., GL & KRC
Greece: 5 cities, 19 techs, Mon, peace, GW
India: 6 cities, 32 techs, Rep, allied; LH

 

[Inkerman]

1040 Shakesbeers Theater built

Interesting spelling of "Shakespeare's", no doubt reflecting a view of the English common in Germany!

I cleared the pollution in 1400, no grassland or plains had survived.

It seems the gap did not widen as much in the period 1000-1500 as I might have expected. My population was much less, but the number of techs and cities are still close. The AI has 9 less cities, probably the extra warming has hit them harder.

Status at 1500

Population: 115 (3,160,000); Cities: 29; Trade routes: 20D6F; Government: Monarchy
{counting both ends of domestic routes}
Gold: 102; Cost per turn: 9 (2 Uni, 1 Bank, Adam Smith); Total advances: 34; Mfg: 111; GNP 110;
Wonders: (6) HG, MPE, Michaelangelo, Adam Smith, Copernicus, Leonardo.
Others = Great Library (Aztec).
Units: 24 Engineers, 32 Musketeers, 5 Crusaders, 12 Trireme, 7 Dips, 15 Vans.
T1L2S6. Discoveries every 5 turns (most recent Explosives).

Russians: (0) Uncooperative, Peace, 55g, 1 city, 19 techs
Japanese: (2) Uncooperative, Peace, 168g, 3 cities, 17 techs
Vikings: (1) Uncooperative, Peace, 93g, 3 cities, 23 techs
Aztecs: (4) Enthusiastic, Peace, 307g, 4 cities, 31 techs
Greeks: (5) Cordial, Peace, 276g, 8 cities, 25 techs
Indians: (3) Enthusiastic, Peace, 117g, 4 cities, 30 techs

 

[Ali Ardavan]

Initial Planing

Continent 1, which we are on, is huge. Most likely all rivals are going to be on this land mass.
There are 13 land masses, three of them single tile and several others tiny. There are no good OCC sites around. Besides in OCC it would be impossible to clean up the existing pollution. Restarts on is not great for early conquest. How about early landing with about 20 cities to keep real time low.

Date Notes

-4000 Beijing founded. Settler started.
-3950 -> Alphabet
-3850 Shanghai founded on river
-3800 Alphabet -> Code of Laws
-3500 Code of Laws -> Monarchy
-3400 Global warming alarm. First settler produced.
-3150 Global warming happens. Canal city of Canton founded on swamp.
-3050 Monarchy -> Bronze. Monarchy established. T3L0S7

Status at -3000
Population: 0.03M; Cities: 3 of size 1; Techs: 5; Government: Monarchy
Gold: 33; Cost: 0; Trade routes: 0D0F;
Wonders:
Units: 1 Warriors, 1 Settler
Goals: Trade, Marco
Russian: No contact
Japanese: No contact
Viking: No contact
Aztec: No contact
orange: No contact
Indian: No contact

-2850 Nanking founded.
-2700 Bronze -> Currency
-2600 Tsingtao founded.
-2350 Currency -> Trade.
-2300 Second round of Global warming happens.

Status at -2000
Population: 0.09M; Cities: 5; Techs: 7; Government: Monarchy
Gold: 2; Cost: 0; Trade routes: 0D0F;
Wonders:
Units: 3 Settlers, 1 Warriors
Goals: Trade, Marco
Russian: No contact
Japanese: No contact
Viking: No contact
Aztec: No contact
Greek: No contact
Indian: No contact

-1900 Trade -> Mapmaking. T7L0S3
-1800 Xinjian founded on hilltop being mined.
Strategy thought: With repeated waves of global warming the world will turn to wasteland and would not be suitable for an early landing strategy. AI is not smart enough to deal with the consequences of global warming. I think an early conquest strategy would work quicker. Given the situation Pyramids is a must.
-1450 Third round of global warming happens. Chengdu founded.
-1350 Marco built. My power is already Supreme.
Bronze, Monarchy, Masonry -> Russian (1) -> Mapmaking, Wheel, peace
Trade, Monarchy, Mapmaking -> Aztec (4) -> Writing, Literacy, 0g
Burial, Literacy -> Indian (3) -> Pottery, 0g
Mapmaking -> Viking (2) -> no interest in exchange, make more demands, declare war
Japanese (5) and Greeks (0) also declare war.
-1300 -> Seafaring.
-1050 Hangchow founded.
-1000 Pottery -> Russian (1) -> Iron Working.

Status at -1000
Population: 0.16M; Cities: 8; Techs: 14; Government: Monarchy
Gold: 16; Cost: 0; Trade routes: 0D0F;
Wonders: Marco
Units: 2 Settlers, 1 Warriors, 1 Phalanx, 1 Trireme
Goals: Pyramids, Hanging Gardens.
Russian: 1 city, 10 techs;
Japanese: 2 cities, 6 techs
Viking: 2 cities, 8 techs
Aztec: 2 cities, 10 techs
Greek: 2 cities, 7 techs
Indian: 2 cities, 6 techs

 

[grigor]

I have played to 240 AD and have cleared all the pollution

Log to follow.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

I just finished and submitted. I did get a chance to start on cleaning the pollution, but there were 20 polluted tiles left when I conquered.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

-0950 Viking warrior killed in attack on mine.
-0925 Viking Phalanx killed in attack on my warrior. Pyramids built.
-0875 Tientsin founded as the first offshore city. T3L0S7
-0800 Fourth round of global warming happens. Tatung founded.
-0750 Seafaring -> Mysticism. Iron Working -> Indian (4) -> Mysticism, maps, 150g. Pottery -> Aztec (5) -> 100g.
-0725 -> Philosophy. Vikings offer 150g for peace when I land a chariot next to their capital.
-0700 Archer defending Trondheim killed and the city razed for 4g and Bridge Building. Russians -> 100g.
-0675 First structure, a harbor, built. Canal city of Macao built next to former Trondheim.
-0625 Chariot lost in attack on Kaupang.
-0575 Trade -> Indian -> 100g. Mysticism -> Aztec, Russian -> 50g each.
-0550 Anyang founded. Burial, peace -> Japanese -> 0g.
-0500 Viking legion killed. Mysticism, Bridge Building -> Greek -> Polytheism.
-0425 Indians beat me to Philosophy by one turn. Hanging Gardens built. Polytheism -> Indian -> Philosophy. Philosophy -> Greek -> 0g.
-0400 -> Monotheism. T7L0S3
-0375 Monotheism -> Math. Fifth round of Global warming happens. Wine to Vikings for 50 establishes the first trade route. Kaupang rendered defenseless and then bribed for 27g. Got 11g and Construction.
-0300 Gems to Aztecs for 78.
-0275 Russian, Japanese, Greek, Indian -> 50g. T3L0S7
-0225 Wine to Aztecs for 64.
-0200 Japanese -> 50g. Greek -> 100g.
-0150 Beads to Aztecs for 40.
-0125 Greek -> 100g.
-0100 Math -> Engineering.
-0075 Shantung and Chinan founded. Japanese, Indian -> 50g
-0050 Silver to Aztecs for 90.
+0001 Michelangelo built. Russian -> 25g. Japanese, Aztec, Indian -> 50g

Status at +1
Population: 0.64M; Cities: 15; Techs: 22; Government: Monarchy
Gold: 165; Cost: 11; Trade routes: 2D4F;
Wonders: Pyramids, Hanging Gardens, Marco, Michelangelo
Units: 4 Settlers, 2 Warriors, 2 Phalanx, 4 Legions, 1 Chariot, 3 Crusaders, 4 Trireme , 1 Diplomat, 3 vans.
Goals: Conquest, more wonders.
Russian: 2 cities, 12 techs;
Japanese: 3 cities, 14 techs
Viking: 1 cities, 9 techs
Aztec: 4 cities, 14 techs
Greek: 2 cities, 12 techs
Indian: 3 cities, 16 techs

+0020 Viking uppsala razed. Viking civilization destroyed. French with no cities appear.
+0040 Sixth round of global warming happens. Kaifeng, second offshore city, and Ningpo founded.
+0060 Domestic Gems for 48.
+0100 Engineering -> Medicine. Deliveries to Aztecs for 90, 108. Greek -> 50g.
+0140 Russian, Indian -> 50g. Greek warrior bribed for 23g.
+0220 Medicine -> Astronomy. Indian -> 50g. Greeks declare war over my demands. Paoting founded.
+0240 Japanese -> 50g. Seafaring -> Aztec -> Republic, 75g.
+0260 French sneak attack and kill a crusader. Another crusader razes Paris. French civilization destroyed. Germans with no cities appear. 2 defenders of Greek Sparta killed and the city bribed for 135g. Got 20g and Warrior Code. Yangchow founded.
+0280 Aztec -> 50g.
+0300 Domestic Hides for40.
+0360 Aztec build Great Library. Astronomy -> Navigation.
+0400 Domestic Hides for 52, 36. Aztec -> 150g. Indian -> 25g.
+0480 Navigation -> Physics.
+0500 Domestic deliveries for 30, 8, 10. Aztec -> 50g. Indian -> 25g. Athens rendered defenseless.

Status at +500
Population: 2.14M; Cities: 20; Techs: 28; Government: Monarchy
Gold: 82; Cost: 19; Trade routes: 16D6F;
Wonders: Pyramids, Hanging Gardens, Marco, Michelangelo
Units: 4 Settlers, 5 defenders, 13 assault units, 7 Trireme , 4 Diplomats, 5 vans.
Goals: Magellan, conquest, more wonders.
Russian: 2 cities, 14 techs;
Japanese: 3 cities, 15 techs; War with me
Viking: Destroyed by me
French: Destroyed by me
German: 1 cities, 17 techs, War with me
Aztec: 4 cities, 19 techs; Great Library
Greek: 2 cities, 14 techs; War with me
Indian: 3 cities, 20 techs

+0520 Athens taken for 30g and Horseback riding. Accepted Greek offer of 92g (all their gold) for a cease fire.
+0560 Russian -> 50g. German civilization destroyed.
+0600 Domestic deliveries for 27, 18, 22.
+0620 Physics -> Magnetism. Russian Smolensk bribed for 168. Got 4g, a settler, and 2 soldiers. Aztec, Indian -> 100g.
+0640 Magellan built.
+0660 Wool to Aztecs for 24.
+0680 Domestic deliveries for 22, 63.
+0700 Salt to Aztecs for 24.
+0720 Seventh round of global warming happens. Magnetism -> Invention. Kyoto captured for 39g. Osaka bribed for 56g.
+0740 Colossus built. Domestic deliveries for 45, 27.
+0800 Domestic deliveries for 9. Naples founded. Edo razed. Japanese civilization destroyed. Babylonians with no cities appear.
+0820 Aztec -> 75g. Russian Odessa bribed for 266.
+0840 Invention -> University. Navigation -> Indian -> University.
+0860 -> Chemistry.
+0880 Aztec -> 50g. Indian -> 25g.
+0900 Babylonian civilization destroyed. Zulu with no cities appear. Aztec Tlat bribed for 213g. Got 15g, 3 structures, one unit, and Banking. Indian -> 25g. Indian Madras bribed for 129g. Got 11g and a unit.
+0940 Russian civilization destroyed. Roman settler appears and is killed. Celts appear. Bombay is razed. Delhi taken. Indian civilization destroyed. Mongols appear. Domestic Hides for 36.
+0960 Domestic deliveries for 42.
+0980 Chemistry -> Gunpowder.

Status at +1000
Population: 3.6M; Cities: 27; Techs: 35; Government: Monarchy
Gold: 191; Cost: 29; Trade routes: 39D6F;
Wonders: Pyramids, Hanging Gardens, Colossus, Marco, Michelangelo, Magellan
Units: 6 Settlers, 12 defenders, 19 assault units, 11 boats, 3 Diplomats, 5 vans, 1 explorer.
Goals: conquest.
Russian: Destroyed by me;
Roman: Destroyed by me
Celt: 1 settler
Japanese: Destroyed by me
Babylonian: Destroyed by me
Zulu: 1 city;
Viking: Destroyed by me
French: Destroyed by me
German: Destroyed by me
Aztec: 3 cities, 32 techs; Great Library; War with me
Greek: 1 cities, 14 techs; War with me
Indian: Destroyed by me
Mongol: 1 city;

+1020 Zulu civilization destroyed. Japanese reappear.
+1040 Celtic civilization destroyed. Issus founded.
+1060 Another round of global warming happens. Domestic delivery for 100.
+1100 Beads to Aztecs for 72.
+1120 Gunpowder -> Explosives. Japanese civilization destroyed. Empress Ishtari who is Babylonian appears as Japanese! Greek Thermopylae bribed for 162g. Greek civilization destroyed. English appear.
+1140 English settler killed; Carthaginian settler appears and is also killed. Domestic Coal for 30.
+1160 Leo built. Mongol civilization destroyed. Sioux appear. First pollution cleared. Silk to Aztecs for 42. Japanese and Sioux settlers killed; both reappear.
+1240 Explosives -> Metallurgy. Aztec Teo captured for 57g. Sioux settler killed. Domestic delivery for 82.
+1xx0 After using about half a dozen diplomats, Tenoch's city walls are destroyed. The city's two defenders are killed and the city razed for 24g. Great Library is lost. Spanish appear. Japanese settler killed. Moscow refounded. T3L7S0
+1xx0 Massive celebrations. Athens refounded.
+1xx0 Spanish settler killed; Egyptians appear. Sold two temples and bribed the Egyptian settler for 164g. Egyptians reappear.
+1xx0 Two more temples sold and Egyptian settler bribed for 164; Egyptians reappear. I exchange maps but cannot see them.
+1xx0 Egyptians self destruct.

 

[grigor]

This GOTM had a lot of puzzle-like aspects. First, was the problem of cleaning pollution, which needed a focused attempt to get 2 settlers on a trireme ASAP. Then, the land was so crummy (and got worse) so a lot of the big civ techniques just weren't viable. Hut I tried anyway! Massive democracies are not my most elegant thing, but that's what seemed appropriate to me in this game. It turned out that getting 1-turn advances was a constant puzzle, and I was successful only part of the time.

Here is the first part of my log:

First goal is to build 4 cities ASAP which means normal builds and doubling. One city on coast. Then in the third round, two settlers go on a trireme.

4000 found on site.
3850 Shanghai on River. PRB warrior in Beijing
3800 Alph => CoL
3500 CoL=> Monarchy (33)
3400 Global warming warning. Beijing Settlers
3300 PRB warriors in Beijing.
3250 Canton.
3150 warming causes drought. Hmm. So much for the Pheasant.
3100 Mon => maps. Revolution
3050 gov: Monarchy. Nanking on coast
3000 Status: 4 Cities, Monarchy. No units.

2800 Beijing settlers.
2750 Maps => BW
2550 Canton Settlers
2400 Tsingtao. Settlers arrive in Nanking. Precharge just in case.
2350 Ship sets sail!
2300 Global warming round 2. City sites still grass except Beijing.
2000 Staus: 5 Cities. 1 settler. 2 triremes 2 warriors. One trireme halfway to skull island. Gov Monarchy. Researching Currency.

1950 Curr => Trade
1750 Settlers reach skull island.
1700 Wonderville founded on peninsula
1600 Hangchow Canal, Chengdu founded. Pollution clearing begins
1550 Trade => HB
1450 Global Warming. Getting nasty for the inland cities. 1st Pollution cleanup finished
1400 Vikings: War.
1200 HB => Poly
1100 Canton Silk to Trondheim (d, 72g)
1050 Poly => writing. Horse defeats legion in Hangchow.
1000 Status: 9 Cities. 11 techs, Researching writing. 6 Sett (2 pollution removal), 4 warriors, 1 phalanx, 1 horse, 5 triremes.

950 Tsingtao Copper to Kaupang (d, 24 g) I won't do that again. Let's go for PYR.
900 Elllie kills legion: vet. Tatung on Greek Continent.
875 Writing => Lit
850 Aztecs: peace, 50g.
800 Global Warning causes drought.
700 Lit => Myst. Macao (11)
650 Greeks: peace, 200g. Wonderville builds PYR.
575 Trondheim razed, IW.
525 Kaupang bribed WC.
500 Status: 13C, 5 settlers, 5 warriors, 4 Phalanx, 3 horse, 4 ellies, 5 triremes, 1 dip
15 techs, res. Myst.

more to come

 

[grigor]

Next part:

Goals: Need Pottery. Myst, Phil, Mono seems like a good order. Probably should trade with greeks to get techs faster. Want 12 vans for mike's and HG.

475 2 hides vans for trade.
450 Shantung Canal founded.
425 Myst=> phil
400 Greeks – trade for pots
275 Wonderville builds HG
225 Phil, Mono => construction
150 Indians: 300g
100 Tientsin hides to Sparta (d, 76g) Hangchow hides to Thermop (d, 56g). Not so hot.
75 Aztecs: peace, 100g. Construction => Republic
25 Russians: peace, 250g.
1AD Wonderville builds Mike's Chapel. Uppsala bribed x2. X Vikings. We should find the respawn zone now.

Status: 15C, 7 Settlers. Only 3 more pollution squares. 8 Warriors, 5 phalanx, 2 Archers, 3 horse, 1 chariot, 4 ellies, 1 crook, 6 trireme. 4 dips, 2 vans. 20 Techs. HG, Mike's. Researching Republic.

Need plan: it looks like no more Warming events. Repatriate 2 pollution clearing settlers to the south, hopefully near the respawn place. Soon I need to do a total round of settlers for doubling pop. Immediate goals: Demo, SoL, build civ. Is this a conquest or a spaceship game? Need Marco Polo ASAP. The location of the respawn place will partially determine. Immediate goal is to double number of cities in 10 turns.

80 MPE in Beijing.
Russians: 4C, Seafaring, Wheel 114g res CB
Japanese: 2C 106g res Math
French: 1C 0g
Aztecs 2C 43g res CoL
Greeks 4C Wheel 220g res Const
Indians 5C 144g res Poly

Contact French: get maps. They are on the south island.
Russians: give Phil, trade CB for Seafaring.
100 Bribe Thermop 54g. Get 20g, Wheel.
Found Kaifeng. 18C

180 Greeks: 200g. Bribe Kiev. Russians: 100g.
200 Republic => Bank – don't switch. Ningpo, Paoting. (20)
220 Pollution all cleaned up!

240 New plan: secure beachheads near AI, get to republic ASAP.
260 LH.
280 27 cities – time to revolt - city doubling took 14 turns.
300 Gov: Republic. Running 30% lux. First goal: Wonderville to size 12, Demo ASAP.
Goal is now clear: huge civ, spaceship. Ignore threats from AI or buy them out.
320 many celebrations.
360 Japs: war. We kill many of their units
380 Indians: war. They kill a settler. Bank => Med
400 Russians war.
440 Wonderville size 12.
500 Med=> Eng Greeks: war.
540 .Indians: 250g for peace (finally)
600 Tsingtao Silver to Tenochtitlan (d, 134) Advances: 4 turns. Shakes in Nanking
620 Eng => Inv Russians: War.
660 Kyoto razed. Japs . Russians: War.still have Edo.
680 Inv=>Demo. Trade with Indians for Math.
760 Demo => Univ. Revolt
780 Gov: Demo Set Lux to 70 for massive celebration.


More to come

 

[grigor]

Goal: Econ, Astro, Sewer. Need many aqueducts to get max cities to size 12. Candidates:
Paoting, Capua in South Island.
Tatung, Anyang on Greek headland
Nanking, Cremona, Wonderville,
Naples, Hanchow Canal, Kaupang,
Turin
Log continued from Democracy:

AD800 many celebrations. Vans 50,70,90. need 840 beakers for advance.
860 Remaining stragglers absorbed in cities.
900 Univ => San
920 Most cities at size 8. Time to reduce Lux to 30 and build some infrastructure.
940 Osaka captured.
960 San => Astro. Buy Sewer in Wonderville. Max tax
980 need annother round of tax.
1000 Canton Hides to Delhi (d, 160) Tax to zero.
1040 Astro => ToG need more tax.
1060. Copes in Wonderville
1100 Leos. ToG => Econ
1140 Econ => Chem Indians develop Guns. Trade for Guns.

1180 39 cities. 1054 beakers for advance
1200Chem =>Expl
1240 Expl => Nav
1260 Newton.
1280 Nav => Bridges
1320Bridges =>metallurgy
1360 Phy => Steam
1400 Steam => magnets..
1460 sMagnets => metal
1500 Metal => RR
1520 tax to 60 for RR and end of HG
1530 RR => Ind
44 Cities. 18 Engineers.5 galleon. 21 vans.
Need 10 more galleons. Need to RR south island and Beijing area. Need Darwin ASAP, and no science until then. (all scientists to taxmen. When freight comes, deliver south island freights to wonderville and vice-versa. Keep it going for 1-turn advances. Minimal lux for happiness.

1540 [GL in Tenochtitlan] many galleons bought.
1550 Darwin, Ind, Corp.=>Gen Eng.. switch science to 50
1560 many deliveries.
1570 Gen Eng => Conscr 45 Cities. 20 engineers. 15 freight 11 transport.
1580 Adam Smith. Allows extra science on the slider.
1590 Conscr => Elect about 1100 beakers in freights delivered. Wonderville beads to Delhi (d, 310)
1600 First 1-turn advance! Elec => Refrig. Deliver a small number of freights.
1620 Refrig => Electrsome freights delivered.
1630 Elect => Steel
1640 46 cities. 22 engineers. 3 freight 12 transport.
RR around Beijing and South island finished.
Almost have RR route to the Russians.
Adam Smith. CfC delivered.
Need more cities. The trade routes are not giving enough money. Bribing Indian cities should be possible.
Trade routes are working: 5 cities to South island, 4 vans north every other turn,. Some smaller cities deliver to Wonderville.
Wonderville has everything, but needs more swamp removed. Paoting (S island delivery city) needs infrastructure. Need another round of engineers to make sure eveybody gets good land. There is still developable land in the NE.

1650 CfC built
1660 Steel =>
1680 Refining =>
1710 Combust => Auto. Deliver vans.
1720 Another 1-turn advance. Auto =>Mass Prod
1730 Superhiways in Wonderville.
48 Cities, 22 engineers, 7 freight, 12 transport.
Many cities in celebration, but not all. Theo and Bach would help, as would Women Suffrage. Taking some cities still a good idea. Expansion is almost to Russians/Indians.

Adjust cities to celebrate. Plan for more engineers in border areas. 60 C by 1800. clear swamp around Beijing, 2 engineere each. Finish RR to Indians. Fix Macao

1740 Mass Prod => Feud
1750 Macao settler resettled.
1752 Feud => Theo. Defence for new cities.
1756 Theo => Chiv
1758 Chiv => Lead (1-turn advance)
1760 Russians: war
1762 Lead => Tact
1764 Tactics=> Mach tools (1-turn advance)
1766 bribe Karachi.
1768 Machine T => Min
1770 Min => Computers (1-turn advance)
1772 JS Bach
1774 Computers => Atom theo. Research lab in Wonderville
1776 Atom Theo. (1-turn advance)
1778 Fission => Nuke power . (1-turn advance) Not enough freight for next turn.
56 cities. 25 Eng. 6 freight, 12 transport. Need a few more. Not long until the spaceship.
1st military goal: buy coastal city and settle isle to south of Russians. 3 more cities near japanese.
Clear swamp around Paoting. Sewer in Nanking. Beijing almost clear. Wonderville clear.
Settle isle to west of Pisa. Settle 3 sq north of Milan and cross lake to settle near oasis.

1782 Nuke Power => Recycl
1784 Recycl => Laser (1-turn advance) Deliver 1700g of freight, but only halfway.
1786 Laser => Flight (1-turn advance)
1790 Flight => Radio
1792 moving toward Russians.
1794 Radio => Adv Flight. 1450 vans delivered.
64 Cities 28 Engineers 8 Freight 18 Transport.
New lands half colonized. Need a ton of Freight the next few turns – Apollo not that far off.
Buy only vans this turn.

1796 Adv Flight => Rockets. (1-turn advance) Deliver 1500 g of freight. Buy more freight.
1798 no advance this turn.
1800 Rockets => Space Flight deliver enough vans. Pharsolos bribed in last area.
1802 Space Flight => Plastics (1-turn advance) Beijing Uranium to Paoting (d, 934)
1804 Plastics => Supercond (1-turn advance)
1806 .Apollo. Superconductor => Fusion (1-turn advance)
70 Cities. 28 Engineers. 19 transport. 13 freight.
Build lots of freight. Fix shipchain. Start spaceship (33/8/3)
Goal: finish SS in 3 turns! (this SO did not happen!)
Structurals = 80 shields = one freight + 30
Modules = 180 sheiles = 3 freights + 30
Components = 320 shields = 6freights + 20.

33 + 18 + 18 = 71 freights. That's 2 turns at fastest.
Extra shields: 30 x 33 = 990. + 6 x 30 = 180 + 3 x 20 = 80
total $ 1250 (totally doable – the problem is the 71 freight.)

set science to 0 to max tax.
1808 deliver some freight. Start buying freight. Buy 33 freight. Start with Toronto next turn
1810 22 cities building wonders for structurals.
1812 another 12 and all remaining white goods.
1812 still slogging along
1814 Fusion Power => Fundy. 19 Strucurals built
1816 now 30 structurals and 1 module.
1818 Indians: War. Calcutta bribed.Peace.

79 Cities. 21 engineers. 11 freight (where are they? Asleep somewhere) Need 1 module and 16 fuel. The structurals are all done after this turn. Should launch in 1822.
1820 Well, freight is more expensive than I want it to be. I buy up to 30 shields and finish all the 30 shields. We'll see how fast I can do it.
1822 Fundy => Env
1824 Beijing Uranium to Paoting (d, 992). Twice! Launch next turn.

Spend money for post-SS hobby. Conquer Indians? Certainly build all wonders.
1826 Launch 33/8-8/1-1-1 ship. ETA 1831.
Japs war. Edo bribed.
Change many cities to Aqueduct.
1827 Environmentalism =>Amphib
buy 12 aqueducts. Need more wonders, but in the event, the hobby turned out to be growth.

1831 Arrive on AC.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

Wow, you managed to land before 1850 on this map? You got 4-5 rounds of global warming which likely destroyed much of the arable land. Amazing result. Wonderful job.

 

[grigor]

I got 12 one-turn advances this game - and I worked like crazy for each one! At the end I was still too short of cash to get enough freight for all the wonders - there were at least four on the table. I don't recall a map with such challenging problems, and I really enjoyed it.