We will play this on large map as is stated in the headline. Normally 5CC is played on Standard, but here with a larger map we will find the difficulties harder due to more AI territory and also more AI competitors. My team-mates scoffed at my proposition of playing Babylon and schemed behind my back to offer Korea and Wang Kon a helping hand to win by Space Victory. My choice of Babylon was due to cheap cultural achievements, but in a democratic way I agree to play Korea. Also, I want to try the unique unit under some tough circumstances and after all, we can still build cheap libraries. Not that it matters much though, we will build every happy/science improvement in all our cities, sooner or later. It's just the quick change between gov's that bothers me, but with a proper management of our empire, we don't have to switch gov more than twice. We are Scientific and Commercial and will play peacefully so we can expand our 5 city nation to it's fullest, before we take out our neighbours one by one. Our ammunition will be strong commercial skills and fast research, and in context with this, we'll be building a force of Hwacha's: Invited players are: Andronicus SimpleMonkey Whomp zerksees I suppose we could use another player or two, but you have to be skilled at Deity also have appropriate MM-ing skills. Now, I tried to find a proper map, but was either closed in or we got something like 5 cows in our area. I don't want either of that, I just want a decent start with river and a foodbonus. Foodbonus can be cow, wheat or wines, I don't care. Just as long as we get something to battle those AI's so we can get 5 cities down before they block us in. I wait for your answers and will continue looking for that decent map. One cow is all we need, not 5 and just enough expansion to get 5 cities without overlap. I know I said otherwise in the PM's, IF you get a good start after 20 turns, just post it, mind you?