GRAPHICS: ZEB's Terrain Graphics

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:crazyeyes DECEMBER 18th, 2001 -- Version 1.0


Here is my remake of Civ III's terrain graphics. So far I only have grassland irrigation done, but I'll keep posting future versions as I complete other terrains.

Beside's a case of insomnia, I thought Snoopy could use a little competition!

Here's a screenshot to see the irrigation:

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/zeb_fish...&.dnm=Irrigation.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

Please give your comments...


Enjoy!

Zeb:king:
 
Okay, well if you're competing with Snoopy, how about doing something a lot of people asked for, but Snoopy never gave us.

How about some improved mountains (ie: grey not red) with just regular everday Civ3 grass...

Snoopy gave us grey and red mountains with his neon green grass.....

I (and a lot of others) would really just like grey mountains with the default grass!!!!
 
I wouldn't mind seeing mountains with snow at the base. My cool ice planet doesn't look quite right.

Has this already been done?
 
Hard to improve on Snoopy, but you may have done it for this tile. I'll try it out tonight. Thanks!
 
Thanks!

I tried to set the buildings out of the way of roads, but it's not completely possible. So roads and rail will go through the buildings ... blah.

Anyways ... I'll do plains irrigation and desert irrigation next. My idea for plains is less green crops and more wheat/barley crops. Desert ... sparse green and wheat crops.


Zeb
 
Wolfshanze...snoopy did give a grey mountains ONLY option...it is downloadable from www.apolyton.com in the civ3 files section...I'm sending you a PM to make sre you know about this.
 
Wow, that's great to hear... I did love Snoopys Grey mountains, but was disheartened when he reverted back to half-and-half red mountains and that neon grass of his.

Is the "all-grey" mountains using the "default" grass, or is it his neon-green grass?

I'm not surprised it being on Apolyton... I usually hang out there more than here, but since I'm defending our country in Saudi Arabia right now, 95% of the internet is blocked to me... about the only thing I can get is a news site or two, and, oddly-enough, Civ Fanatics... any tech, game, entertainment site is blocked out, including Apolyton... oddly enough, Civ Fanatics, isn't... weird, but I'll live with it until I return stateside.
 
I was thinking of doing multiple colors in the mountain tiles... some grey, some red ... for example: in a single mountain tile you'll see multiple rock types forming the mountain ... is all grey prefered?

About the grass. Here is the thing. I can change the color of the grass to be more green with photoshop. The easiest way to do that is to change the color balance by adding more blue, green, and cyan ... but!!! by doing that I effectively alter the entire color table for the file and will have to change the color balance in every other single terrain graphic file because they are all linked in one way or another. Example: change the grassland you have to change the grassland/plains border tiles ... change those you have to change the plains ... change those you have to change the plains coast lines .. change the coast lines you have to change the coastal water...etc...

Now the other way to change the grassland to green is much more tedious ... and that is to go into the color table and change each individual 100 or so yellow-green color to blueish green colors. Blah...

So... I'm not planning on doing much to grassland colors quite yet.

I will be doing the other irrigations, forest and jungle, and mountains. Then I want to get back to work on a mod...


By the way, if anyone wants to collaborate with me on developing some MODs or maps etc.. let me know...

Zeb


Best wishes to you in Saudi Arabia
 
Zeb,

if you want to change a part of the graphics without redoing the whole palette, it may be that you will find this trick useful. I do not know what format the civ graphics are in, but it may be that they have an ordered palette that will make this save time.

Let's see... if the image mode is indexed (image --> mode --> indexed), then you can access the colours palette using image --> mode --> color table. There, you will be presented with all colours used by the image - and it may be that colour ranges are next to each other (ie all greens together, starting from the darkest downto the brightest hues). If you hold down shift, click on the first colour of the range, and then on the last, you can then select these two base values and have photoshop extrapolate all values in between. Thus, you would only need about 5 - 15 colour selections to modify the entire set.

I do not know if you will find this useful, but i have been surpirsed at how few people use the indexed color table to produce results. This can also be applied to any grayscale image to make it catch fire, but I guess that goes off to a totally different forum...

Good work! Keep it up!

Stelios
 
Ahh thanks ... the table has the colors semi mixed up ... I believe sorted by usage ... I couldn't find a way to resort the colors based on hue... the help file says you can, but it shows a completely different view of the color table panel. But, I think I can use this to change the greens... at least better than changing one color at a time!

I learned about indexed color, believe it or not, by fiddling with sprites in Bungie's Marathon game. They used indexed color to change the color of the clothing of a sprite... this was done by the game exchanging color table files with a single graphic... I thought that was cool!


Thanks,

Zeb
 
Wow... all I can say... wow...

The actual crops looks pretty Civ 2 ish but it's a real difference! A good difference at that. I really can't wait to go back to Seattle to try it out on my comp... in January 3...
 
Yah, it would be great to see roads that evolve over time. Seems kind of wierd to have dirt roads when your civ is using cars. Perhaps railroads can be made to look like highways instead? Just like in SimCity, its wierd to have all railroads and no roads anywhere.
 
Irrigation is great!
Didn't like having to rename the file though... lazy f*** that I am.:cool:
 
:eek: WOW! Looks great! I can't wait to see what you do with plains and desert. Right now, I'm also using Snoopy's graphics, but I like your irrigation more.
 
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