Great Britain and Ireland Map

brick623 · Jul 30, 2019

See download link here:

https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/great-britain-and-ireland-map.27774/

Hi there!

The idea of this mod is to build a YnAMP style map of Great Britain and Ireland (dimensions 79x*73y) that uses similar mechanics, like real city naming.

Unfortunately, I am not an experienced modder at all. So, I need your help.

Screenshot of the map below:

Spoiler Britain and Ireland Map :

The github link is here:

https://github.com/brick623/Civ-6-Great-Britain-and-Ireland-Map

The mod requires the latest version of YnAMP as a dependency:

https://github.com/Gedemon/Civ6-YnAMP

Building the mod:

Topics:

1 Real City Naming

2 Natural Wonders

3 City States

4 True Start Locations

5 Resource Regions

1. Real City Naming - the idea here is that your city will be named according to both where it is placed on the Map, and depending on your civ , exactly like what's used in the YnAMP mod. For example, if you settle where York is on the map, if playing as England, the city would be auto-named "York". If you are playing as the Vikings, they'd call it "Jórvik", the Romans "Eboracum" or as Scotland "Eabhraig" (if we're using Scottish Gaelic), and so on. There will be a default list so that Civs that don't have their own names for these places would be assigned the modern day name of the place. For those who don't want Real City Naming, it would be an option you can turn off. This would be done in the same way as YnAMP, so there are two strands to this -

1.1 - the placement of the names on the map

1.2 - the text file

2. Natural Wonders - Giant’s Causeway and the Cliffs of Dover are placed on the map already. However, for balance reasons, I think the map should have more like 6 NWs, so that civs that have specific bonuses -like Spain- are not unfairly penalised by a lack of them. This could be achieved by renaming some NWs.

These are just some examples:

Matterhorn to Sìdh Chailleann / Schiehallion (Mt in central Scotland)

Mt Everest to Yr Wyddfa / Snowdon (Mountain Massif in North Wales)

Ubsunur to Boireann (Karst landscape in Western Ireland)

Delicate Arch to Durdle Door

I’m interested I what other people think about this and open to suggestions, especially advice on how to implement it.

3. City States – I think there are a couple of options here. Create new city states from scratch or rename and repurpose existing ones. Here’s a list of city states I thought would fit the map:

Trade Aberdeen, Liverpool, Douglas

Religious Armagh, Canterbury, Iona, St David’s

Science Oxford, Galway, St Andrew’s

Culture Bath, Dublin, Winchester, Edinburgh

Industry Birmingham, Glasgow, Belfast, Manchester

Military Caernarfon, Plymouth, Dumbarton, Kilkenny

Suggestions are welcome, especially with which CSs to repurpose e.g. Bologna à Oxford.

4. True Start Locations – Probably the simplest task, however, I want to make this mod inclusive and compatible with modded civs that would such as JFD’s Wales.

In addition, Civs that once owned territories in Britain (e.g. Rome and the Vikings) would have their own spawn locations such as the Vikings at Jorvik, and the Romans at Bath (Aquae Sulis) or Cirencester (Corinium). Let me know what you think.

5. Resource Regions – As in YnAMP the map should go for resource regions. I could research and give it a go at accurately placing all the resources on the map, but then once you’ve played the map a couple of times it’s easy to find where to place your cities and to know exactly how much oil there will be in a certain place. The semi-randomised nature of the resource regions mechanic that YnAMP uses is a great solution. I’ll be trying to copy the method Gedemon used to achieve this.

6. Tile Features – For some reason, I can’t place certain NWs or tile features in WorldBuilder, such as reefs and volcanoes, and therefore certain Natural Wonders too. Any help with how to achieve this would be appreciated.

brick623 · Jul 30, 2019

On Topic 1, I'm currently editing England's South Coast up to the Thames and Severn Basins

Gedemon · Jul 30, 2019

You can force NW placement by adding them manually in the NaturalWonders.xml file.

You can try to add features in the ExtraPlacement.xml file following the "how to" here

Be careful to not overwrite your changes in those files if you export again using YnABMC.

brick623 · Jul 30, 2019

Gedemon said:
You can force NW placement by adding them manually in the NaturalWonders.xml file.

You can try to add features in the ExtraPlacement.xml file following the "how to" here

Be careful to not overwrite your changes in those files if you export again using YnABMC.

Thanks for the tips! I'm going to aim not to export again using YnABMC, hopefully I won't need to.

brick623 · Aug 16, 2019

City naming is now completed from Britain's south coast, north up to the Carlisle - Tyne area.

HOWEVER, after the last play test I did, the game is not assigning the city names to plots - currently investigating.

brick623 · Aug 16, 2019

brick623 said:
City naming is now completed from Britain's south coast, north up to the Carlisle - Tyne area.

HOWEVER, after the last play test I did, the game is not assigning the city names to plots - currently investigating.

City naming issue now resolved, progressed north to Glasgow/Edinburgh.

brick623 · Aug 20, 2019

Real City Naming and True Start Locations complete. I've added TSLs for Merrick's Anglo Saxons (Alfred at Winchester, Offa at Tamworth), JFD's Wales, and Sukitract's Iceland (representing the Kingdom of the Isles). There are also alternate starts should both Eleanor and Victoria be selected.

Screenshots from a playtest:

Spoiler South West :

Spoiler South East :

Spoiler Midlands :

Spoiler Wales :

Spoiler Scotland :

brick623 · Aug 22, 2019

Gedemon said:
You can force NW placement by adding them manually in the NaturalWonders.xml file.

You can try to add features in the ExtraPlacement.xml file following the "how to" here

Be careful to not overwrite your changes in those files if you export again using YnABMC.

With this I managed to get Natural Wonder placement to work, and placing the extra features such as reefs and fissures, so thanks for the advice.

After a lot of trial and error also got Natural Wonder renaming to work:

Spoiler Matterhorn > Schiehallion :

Spoiler Everest > Snowdon :

Spoiler Delicate Arch > Durdle Door :

Spoiler Torres > Liathach :

A challenge remains, which is how to replicate the semi-random resource generation that YnAMP uses (ie, coal and iron are likely to appear in the Pennines Region, oil appears off the coast of Aberdeen, etc.). Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Gedemon · Aug 22, 2019

See:
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/how-to-set-and-use-the-regional-resources-placement.621145/

Please, let me know if something needs clarification.

brick623 · Aug 23, 2019

Gedemon said:
See:
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/how-to-set-and-use-the-regional-resources-placement.621145/

Please, let me know if something needs clarification.

Awesome, I've given this a try. Real world deposits are working. However, resource exclusions aren't - for example, Ivory, Jade, Coffee (tropical resources) that I want to block from appearing on the whole map, so I've used a global region in the Map.xml:

Code:

    <RegionPosition>
        <Replace MapName="brick623_GreatBritainandIrelandMap_Map" Region="GLOBAL_EXCLUDE"    X="1" Y="1" Width="70" Height="70" />
                </RegionPosition>

And then in Resource.xml:

Code:

    <!-- Resource Exclusions -->   
    <ResourceRegionExclude>
        <!-- Global Exclusions (Resources that aren't present in GB and Ireland -->
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_BANANAS</Resource>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_RICE</Resource>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_CINNAMON</Resource>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_CITRUS</Resource>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_CLOVES</Resource>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_COCOA</Resource>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_COFFEE</Resource>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_COTTON</Resource>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_INCENSE</Resource>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_IVORY</Resource>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_JADE</Resource>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_TEA</Resource>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_SILK</Resource>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Region>GLOBAL_EXCLUDE</Region>
            <Resource>RESOURCE_TOBACCO</Resource>
        </Row>
        <!-- Region Exclusions -->   
    </ResourceRegionExclude>

I also amended the Config.xml according to the instructions. After a few tests I can't figure out what I've done wrong.

The latest file on GitHub is where I'm up to.

On City States, I have renamed 17 CSs and given TSLs. However, for polish I need to change ethnicity of the city and unit art. For example:

Bologna has been renamed to Oxford, but I'd like the city to show with the English style of architecture (with blue-grey roofs) and England Palace Building, rather than the Mediterranean style that . I've searched the game files and forum but I can't figure out how to do this, unless a CS mod is built from scratch.

Gedemon · Aug 23, 2019

It's in one of the artdef files, you need to setup one that load after the vanilla artdef and replace just that part, there is a section for palace definition and one for the rest of the ethnic art. Better ask one of the CS mods authors for that.

for the exclusion zone, I'd like to have a look at your lua.log after starting your map.

brick623 · Aug 23, 2019

Gedemon said:
It's in one of the artdef files, you need to setup one that load after the vanilla artdef and replace just that part, there is a section for palace definition and one for the rest of the ethnic art. Better ask one of the CS mods authors for that.

for the exclusion zone, I'd like to have a look at your lua.log after starting your map.

I've download Gedemo's Carnac CS Mod and trying to understand it - I'll contact them.

Here's the Lua file for the exclusion zones:

Spoiler Lua file :

brick623 · Aug 24, 2019

Gedemon said:
It's in one of the artdef files, you need to setup one that load after the vanilla artdef and replace just that part, there is a section for palace definition and one for the rest of the ethnic art. Better ask one of the CS mods authors for that.

for the exclusion zone, I'd like to have a look at your lua.log after starting your map.

Having read the .lua and done a few more tests it appears that the script is reading the regions from this mod, and the regions from a YnAMP map (giant earth I think). So the generator is trying to exclude the resources I've listed, but then there is a exclusive placement list that is also being used.

This would explain why I'm getting ivory generated only towards the south east of the map, as it's a request for YnAMP giant earth in South Asia and Africa. Incense consistently appears in the Highlands too (both Ivory and Incense are in the exclusions list). I'll look at the code to see if I can unpick them.

Gedemon · Aug 25, 2019

It shouldn't place them, it checks if the region exist for the map. I'll add a comment in the log for that case.

I'll have a look at your mod

brick623 · Aug 26, 2019

Spoiler Lancaster :

After some experimenting with the .artdef files it appears possible to change the ethnicity/art style of civs - here I've renamed Preslav to Lancaster and you can see some American style buildings in the city (and some roman looking ones, the combination is a bit odd). Still trying to figure out how to change the palace building from the roman/mediterranean one to Scottish.

Gedemon · Sep 4, 2019

brick623 said:
Having read the .lua and done a few more tests it appears that the script is reading the regions from this mod, and the regions from a YnAMP map (giant earth I think). So the generator is trying to exclude the resources I've listed, but then there is a exclusive placement list that is also being used.

This would explain why I'm getting ivory generated only towards the south east of the map, as it's a request for YnAMP giant earth in South Asia and Africa. Incense consistently appears in the Highlands too (both Ivory and Incense are in the exclusions list). I'll look at the code to see if I can unpick them.

Checked, the problem is on YnAMP side, thanks for the report.

Working on a fix ATM.

Gedemon · Sep 4, 2019

YnAMP updated (on GitHub only) for testing, let me know if it fix the exclusion of resources issue.

brick623 · Sep 5, 2019

Gedemon said:
YnAMP updated (on GitHub only) for testing, let me know if it fix the exclusion of resources issue.

Just done a couple of tests. Looks good, I could not see any resources that were on the exclusion list, and the regional deposits are working. Thanks very much for your help as always.

This mod is nearly ready for release, after some playtests.

brick623 · Sep 10, 2019

Version 1.0 released - see link:

https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/great-britain-and-ireland-map.27774/

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