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Great Random Leader Combo's

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by a0161613, Aug 6, 2007.

  1. a0161613

    a0161613 Chieftain

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    Has anyone tried this?

    I will and have thought about it loads.

    Here are some combinations that work well in my head.

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    Advantages

    Brennus of Spain
    Mass promoted Siege units pre economics!!!

    Toku of Sumeria (i think)
    give toku his vanilla traits back!

    Asoka of England/Japan/Vikings/Ottomans/French
    I have heard Asoka be described as the most underrated warmonger, give hm a decent UU and watch him beat on someone...

    Any more guys? I think Mansa Musa would work with most, and the chinese in vanilla were great before they got nerfed with protective in warlords.
     
  2. carl corey

    carl corey Deity

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    Boudica of Rome. :ninja: Play her on a Pangaea map and watch everyone die before insanely promoted Praetorians!

    Pericles of Rome. Creative for fast Libraries, Philo for GP generation and cheap Universities, Roman forum for more GP boost.

    Industrious leader + Portuguese. They are a naval power (both UB & UU are water oriented) so a leader that would help you build the coastal wonders would be pretty cool. Great Lighthouse, Colossus, Maoi Statues & Feitoria (their Customs House) could make for a great water city.

    Industrious + Dutch for the same reasons.

    Asoka is good even with the Indians. The Fast Worker is an awesome UU, allowing for a very fast development and fast chopping (getting on the forest tile doesn't take the whole move unless it's on a hill). I managed my second best score in Warlords with Asoka with a ~110K domination victory on continents. Rushing, courthouses and Spiritual make for a very cool combination.

    I think Qin was ok the way he was in Warlords as you could slingshot to protective Cho-ko-nu's which is pretty dominant.
     
  3. Gnarfflinger

    Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training

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    Cyrus of the Mongols:

    Imperialistic: More GG.

    Mongol UB: Ger.

    With Barracks, Vassalage and Theocracy (And State Religion), that's 13 exp (4 promotions with a charismatic leader like Cyrus) on mounted units...
     
  4. Maestro_Innit

    Maestro_Innit Warlord

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    I started a completely random game last night and ended up with Ragnar of the Aztec Empire :D

    Excellent combo of beefed up Courthouses along with the financial trait for easy expansion aaaaand .... Aggresive trait Jaguars to enable the early rush :hammer:

    Only problem is that I'm on a big / small map and I've just wiped out the other two empires on my continent - leaving me isolated :wallbash:
     
  5. Baldas

    Baldas Chieftain

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    Haven't played them yet but the Holy Roman Empire UU (landsknecht) looks very good, and Charlemagne's traits aren't good (imperialistic/protective). No doubt this is to compensate for the good UU. So two good traits with the landsknecht could be fun. Maybe financial/charismatic (Hannibal) or organised/charismatic (Napoleon).

    It can be quite confusing playing games with random leaders though. My last one had AI leaders Willem van Oranje of Mongolia, Zara Yaqob of China, etc., and it was hard to keep track of it all. I was Boudica of Rome on a pangaea map, and yes it was totally broken of course, but quite a laugh. I wouldn't do it all the time, but hey, games are supposed to be fun, right?
     
  6. mice

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    I tried Elizabeth of Sumeria.

    Vultures and Ziggurats. Early spy specialists with Philosophical. Then cottage spam with a good GP farm.
     
  7. mice

    mice Moose

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    double post
     
  8. Polycrates

    Polycrates Emperor

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    Pericles of Arabia. 1/2 price libraries that allow two scientists and two priests, with x2 GPPs? Yes please!

    Hammurabi of the HRE. 1/2 price Rathauses and Combat I landsknechts. Nice. Darius would be very good as well.

    Hammurabi of the Zulu. The only combo that might work slightly better than the near-perfect package that Shaka is already.

    Alexander of the Sumerians. Combat I Vultures, lots of Great Spy points.

    Agreed on Brennus of Spain - also because of massively-promoted conquistadors.
     
  9. Gnarfflinger

    Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training

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    Been playing with Boudica of the Sumerians lately. Nastiest Axe Rush I've ever done.

    Tried Julius Ceaser with the Zulu trying to expand, but I expand so much that the AI will overpower me when they are ready to fight...
     
  10. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    Now try to play against Monty of Rome with iron in the BFC ..... or, God forbids, Shaka or Boudica of Rome :wow: . Good for sword training, believe me ( nutcases with combat I Preats )
     
  11. Gnarfflinger

    Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training

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    Tokugawa of the Ottoman Empire (or France for that matter) had potential. I like having three free promotions on a gunpowder unit then the experience they come out of the city with...
     
  12. juggerxnaut

    juggerxnaut Chieftain

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    aggrressive rome,ofcourse
     
  13. Sjaramei

    Sjaramei Prince

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    I tried Monty as Rome my last game.. AWESOME! He killed two opponents totally and is the biggest dog in the pack. (besides me of course :p) It's very amusing playing in a game where the AI kills other AI's to gain a lot of territory. Oh and incidentally he is my best friend cause i've been involved in a lot of phony wars with him :D
     
  14. vale

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    I was thinking in a different direction of matching up some of the better UBs with leaders that give production bonuses or other such incentive on that.

    Pacal II or Peter of the Incans would be fun in my opinion. It is kind of unfortunate that they start with Mysticism which because of the cheap terraces could be bypassed for most of the early game if desired.

    Frederick of the Aztecs offers a mixed bag. The Jaguars are now guaranteed to pretty much stink. But you get extraordinarily cheap courthouses that help make your possible large food excesses work for you more often.

    Hannibal of the Egyptians would be interesting. Charismatic war chariots are going to be very useful in the early going. The fact that your UB also gives happiness is good regardless of how likely it is that you will actually use the ability.

    If you have an archer fetish, Churchill of the Native Americans would be just about the best you could possibly hope for. Beeline/Slingshot to Machinery and enjoy. As another possible bonus, the UB is giving you happiness.

    Along similar lines, Churchill of the Chinese sounds might tasty to me especially in BTS. You can still have your broken collateral damage action.
     
  15. Defiant47

    Defiant47 Peace Sentinel

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    Elizabeth of Holy Rome. Financial = awesome cottage economy and just overall teching power. Philosophical = awesome SE capabilities and fast GP rate. Rathaus = most maintenance reduced, resulting in rapid expansion throughout all eras (don't go too crazy before CoL though).
     
  16. I EAT CRAYONS

    I EAT CRAYONS Eater of Crayons

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    Lincoln/Rome: Charismatic for Praetorians :). Also, the Philosophical traits works nicely with the UB (+125% :gp: points) for SE.

    Wang Kon/Ethiopia: Financial because it's...financial. Protective+Barracks=Drill IV Oromo Warriors out of the gate. :ar15:

    Edit: Protective won't do anything...GAH. Scratch the Wang Kon thing.
     
  17. Defiant47

    Defiant47 Peace Sentinel

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    I just got an insane idea:

    What about a Charismatic/Protective leader with Cho-Ko-Nus!
     
  18. Gnarfflinger

    Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training

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    Still to try:

    Churchill of the Chinese (CH/Pr with CKN)
    Tokugawa of the English (Tried with Ottomans, but he fizzles when the UU becomes outdated)
    There has to be a good leader to pair with the Zulu to exploit the Ikanda. I'm thinking JC or Hammurabi as Organized leaders.
     
  19. Solomwi

    Solomwi Prince

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    For the early game, how about Churchill of the Maya, for the CG/Drill Skirmishers, or of the Native Americans, for the synergy between his traits and the Totem Pole. Totem Pole and barracks give you a CGIII/Drill or CG/Drill III Archer straight out of the box.
     
  20. Thalassicus

    Thalassicus Bytes and Nibblers

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    Random leaders with random personalities is the way to go. Who knew Ghandi could be such a warmongering backstabber with his Praetorians?

    Hammurabi (Agg/Org) of the Zulu would be an amazing force for large scale games of warmongering.

    Impi
    Aggressive
    Double speed of barracks
    Double speed of courthouses
    -50% civic upkeep
    -70% city maintenance with courthouses and ikhanda

    Long-term empire builder from start to finish... impi at the get go, courthouses in the middle, and 1/5th cost corporations at the end for +20:food: from Sid's Sushi at low expense. Boudica of Rome may be a strong empire builder from an early military perspective on smaller or crowded maps with Iron, but for flexible long-term large map domination little could compete with Hammurabi's Ikhanda!
     

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