Has anyone tried this? I will and have thought about it loads. Here are some combinations that work well in my head. Leader (traits) Nation (UB, UU & starting techs i think...) Advantages Brennus of Spain Mass promoted Siege units pre economics!!! Toku of Sumeria (i think) give toku his vanilla traits back! Asoka of England/Japan/Vikings/Ottomans/French I have heard Asoka be described as the most underrated warmonger, give hm a decent UU and watch him beat on someone... Any more guys? I think Mansa Musa would work with most, and the chinese in vanilla were great before they got nerfed with protective in warlords.