Greatest City in Europe?

Greatest City in Europe?

  • Rome?

    Votes: 20 25.0%
  • London?

    Votes: 19 23.8%
  • Moscow?

    Votes: 5 6.3%
  • Istanbul?

    Votes: 6 7.5%
  • Paris?

    Votes: 16 20.0%
  • St Petersburg?

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • Berlin?

    Votes: 3 3.8%
  • Vienna?

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • Other (Please specify...)

    Votes: 9 11.3%

  • Total voters
    80

Pangur Bán

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I'm not sure how much purpose this serves, but still, here we go. I's just wondering, if you had to pick a current European city for its current and historical greatness and prestige, which one would you pick? To my mind, there are only a few candidates:

Rome - Home to the Vatican, and the centre of the world's largest religion. Historical birthplace of the Roman Empire.

London - the Wealthiest city in modern Europe; today it is Europe's third largest city depending on how one does the figures. More importantly, it is a world financial centre. It was also centre of the British Empire, the largest collection of territories ever gathered under one govenment.

Istanbul - Formerly Constantinople. Centre of the Roman Empire for over 1200 years before becoming the Ottoman capital for another 4 and a i/2 centuries. Centre for the Orthodox church. Was most consistantly the wealthiest and most important city of the middle ages. Still the 2nd largest city in Europe.

Moscow - The "third Rome", capital of the Soviet Union and today still Europe's largest city. One of Europe's top cultural and political centres since the Mongol period.

Paris - One of the largest cities in Europe. Probably Europe's most important secular cultural centre for the 18th and 19th centuries. Remains an attractive cultural centre for fashion and art.

St Petersburg - Capital of Tsarist Russia. Still the 2nd largest city in Russia and, depending on how you do the figures, Europe's 4th largest city today.

Berlin - Capital of Brandenburg-Prussia and now of Germany. Is an important and growing European cultural centre.

Vienna - Capital of the old Habsburg dominions. It is now the capital of Austria. Was to the German-speaking lands, what Paris was to France in the 18th and 19th century.


Please, I don't want to hear Swedes moaning about the exclusion of Stolkholm from the poll, or Dutch folk moaning about the absence of Amsterdam, or Albanians moaning about the absence of Tirana. All the serious candidates are in the poll already...AND SOME!!!

http://www.citymayors.com
 
If I had to choose somewhere to live I would pick Athens or Venice because I find them most beautiful of Europe's cities that I have seen. I haven't yet seen Berlin, St Petersburg, Istanbul or Moscow from that list, but have seen the others and most major cities in Western Europe, whilst those you chose may have arguably more culture than either of the ones I chose, if I had to pick a place to live, they would be the two, if forced to pick one..... I'd pick Athens.

BTW I'm suprised you left Athens off the list, sure it's a hellhole in modern day comparisons, but if we're talking historical greatness and culture it's hard to argue against the city really.
 
For historical greatness the obvious choices would be Rome and Athens.

For current conditions, Paris or London would probably be my choice.
 
Well, I might have picked Athens....but I've been there. And having thought about it, Athens was never that important in the ancient era either...but it could talk itself up a lot.
 
I've been to Athens also, it's not THAT bad..... well kinda :D
 
Where are Athens, Madrid, Brussels, and Ampsterdam? Doesn't matter though since Rome beats all other European cities in terms of greatness.
 
Originally posted by privatehudson
I've been to Athens also, it's not THAT bad..... well kinda :D

I would rate Glasgow and Edinburgh higher than Athens. Athens today is a complete dump! :p
 
Originally posted by calgacus
London - the Wealthiest city in modern Europe; nearly the largest too. Centre of the British Empire, the largest collection of territories ever gathered under one govenment.

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that expain why
 
Yet in less than a year it will be the host of the Olympic games for which Athens, by many people, is most known for.
 
Originally posted by calgacus


I would rate Glasgow and Edinburgh higher than Athens. Athens today is a complete dump! :p

I dunno, they're doing one hell of a lot for the olympics to improve matters, also they actually have a transport system that like.... runs on time.... and like... turns up :eek: When I went there last year it was much better than I thought it would be anyway.

Besides, in Athens they mostly also speak english, in Glasgow and Edinburgh.... ;)
 
Originally posted by privatehudson


I dunno, they're doing one hell of a lot for the olympics to improve matters, also they actually have a transport system that like.... runs on time.... and like... turns up :eek: When I went there last year it was much better than I thought it would be anyway.

Besides, in Athens they speak english, in Glasgow and Edinburgh.... ;)

I was there four years ago, and then last year. A dump on both occassions. When they finish re-doing the Metro and t'omonia, it'll be a real improvement. The Olympics will certainly make Athens a modern city for a month or so, and it'll make it a cultural centre for a few weeks too. :lol:

Oh yeah, they may speak better English in Athens, ;) but the people of Glasgow and Edinburgh are friendly at least! :eek:
 
Originally posted by Moss321
Yet in less than a year it will be the host of the Olympic games for which Athens, by many people, is most known for.

Even though they did not host the games in the ancient age. (Greece=/=Athens)
 
was there four years ago, and then last year. A dump on both occassions

Same here on the visit times, but I think the changes will make some difference, compared to most modern cities, yes it's a mess, but I could find many a city in Britain in just as bad a state, or with areas even worse in some respects, hell I live next to one :D

When they finish re-doing the Metro and t'omonia, it'll be a real improvement

Agreed, and when I went last (January) you could begin to see this taking shape a little more :)

but the people of Glasgow and Edinburgh are friendly at least!

:confused: Are you serious? The scots are about as unfriendly as you get... then again I am english.... :lol: Actually your comment suprises me, I stayed with friends over in Athens city and didn't find the people there any better or worse for friendly behaviour than anywhere else overall.
 
I haven't been to any of them yet, so I don't have an opinion...
 
Originally posted by privatehudson

:confused: Are you serious? The scots are about as unfriendly as you get... then again I am english.... :lol: Actually your comment suprises me, I stayed with friends over in Athens city and didn't find the people there any better or worse for friendly behaviour than anywhere else overall.

I'm sorry they weren't very friendly. Unfortunately, it probably was because you were English. :(

The friendliest Athenians I ever met were the pimps. Which says it all really :eek:
 
Originally posted by calgacus


I'm sorry they weren't very friendly. Unfortunately, it probably was because you were English. :(


In my experience, the Welsh and Scots in general don't much like the English, it's an inferiority complex methinks :D

The friendliest Athenians I ever met were the pimps. Which says it all really :eek:

Well you clearly hung round the wrong areas of Athens ;)
 
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