Greatest President

Which one was the Greastest American President?

  • Washinton

    Votes: 6 11.3%
  • Jefferson

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • Lincoln

    Votes: 11 20.8%
  • Teddy Roosevelt

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Franklin D. Roosevelt

    Votes: 11 20.8%
  • Reagan

    Votes: 8 15.1%
  • Bush (The eleder)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Clinton

    Votes: 7 13.2%
  • Other (please specify)

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • Total voters
    53

knowltok2

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Saw an article that said that in an ABC news poll African Americans rated Bill Clinton the Greatest President. Whites voted for Abraham Lincoln.

I am curious to see what civfanatica thinks of the question.
 

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I vote for Washington because he set the precedents that have guided all other presidents. He had to sail in uncharted territory in a nation that wasn't even sure it was one nation.

A strong second place for Lincoln in my book.



To a Mod: I can't type when talking on the phone, can you correct the spelling errors in the poll for Washington and elder? Thanks
 

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Had to go with Washington. In addition to the obvious, he was one of the very few presidents who didn't pursue the office for personal gain. If I remember correctly, he didn't even really want the job. Thought he had done his bit as General.

There are strong arguments to be made on behalf of (and against, for that matter:D ) any on this list.
 

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I say John F. Kennedy and I'm surprised that he's not up there. He did an excellent job in office, was calm under extreme circumstances (Cuban Missile Crisis), and was just a natural leader.
Also: Washington & Lincoln
 

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The Gipper. It took a monumental effort to get America out of it's post-Vietnam malaise, sparked a new era in the Cold War which made for cool movies and which he essentially "won".

He didn't get to distinguish himself by founding a new nation, or in WW2 like Roosevelt, but I just love the guy.
 

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I voted for Washington. What he did for the new nation was incredible; the Revolutionary War and his presidency marked difficult and very important times in the history of the nation, and indeed the world. Lincoln is, of course, a very strong second, for his deeds in the Civil War era. I can understand most of the other presidents as well, but I have no idea why people are voting for Clinton. Trying to be funny, perhaps, or is there a legitimate reason?

PS: For those who are very confused, we are referring to US Presidents (though it's hard for an American to imagine anyone not knowing these people, I'm sure it happens).
 

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FDR, Clinton sucks
 

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I hope the people that voted for Clinton were the ones that didn't know who any other president was...

Why is Clinton up there, and John F. Kennedy not? How about Harry Truman? Hoover?

Clinton was probably the worst president the U.S. has ever had...yes, even worse than Jimmy Carter.
 

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Hahahaha.....

You wouldn't be just a little biased there, RM?

You guys will never get over the fact that Democrats had a great President that the people loved and elected to two terms, the second being a landslide, will you?

I feel for you because I feel the same way about Reagan. :D

I guess what makes it tougher for you is that all the effort that went into villifying him just didn't work.
 

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Originally posted by VoodooAce
Hahahaha.....

You wouldn't be just a little biased there, RM?

I suggested JFK and Harry Truman to replace Clinton on that list. How far left do I have to go before you consider me "unbiased?"

You guys will never get over the fact that Democrats had a great President that the people loved and elected to two terms, the second being a landslide, will you?

Clinton is about as loved as Saddam Hussein or Ayatollah Khomeini.
 

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Originally posted by rmsharpe
Clinton is about as loved as Saddam Hussein or Ayatollah Khomeini.

Really?? Well then...the voters must really like Saddam then. :rolleyes:

Clinton got things done...and moved this country in the right direction. Recovered from recession caused by Bush Sr., all to have it ****ed up by Bush Jr.

Well...that's my opinion anyway...
 

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Originally posted by rmsharpe
Clinton is about as loved as Saddam Hussein or Ayatollah Khomeini.
That is why he gets mobbed by adoring voluntary fans everywhere he goes... this is easy stuff to find, look for stories of his recent appearances in New York & Seattle.

What exactly did he do, that has been PROVEN that qualifies him to be the WORST?
Follow up question: Do you know anything about the administration of Warren G. Harding, and upon reading about it, return and still say if you think Clinton was the worst.
 

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I voted for Lincoln, if anything for the fact that he kept the Union together.

It was not an easy decision to make, and it seemed a bad one after all of the lives lost, but Lincoln saved the country.

Washington had the best cabinet in history, and set a moral standard that has never been surpassed in the presidency.

Roosevelt was thisclose to being a king, and guided the nation into superpowerdom. He probably saved Europe from Soviet domination.

Clinton was an able president, but in the CNN world ALL of his shortcomings were caught on camera. He reduced the deficit, and had balanced the budget before this current war began.

Reagan's method of winning the cold war was effective, but in the long term it did alot of damage to the economy. But we won, and in a "war" that is what is important.

Just my thoughts on the matter:).
 

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One would have to go for FDR.
 

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Hmmm....a difficult proposition at best --choosing a president--but then it always is.
Some of our esteemed leaders managed to make the times they lived in: George Washington-determined to forge a new country; Andrew Jackson, the rustic, who brought backbone to the executive branch; Ronald Reagan-determined to outspend the Soviets and put an end to the cold war.
And some were made by their times: Herbert Hoover-who will forever be identified with the great depression, and sadly, Hoovervilles; John Kennedy-who had the Cuban missle crisis dropped like a 40 megaton bomb right in his lap and skillfully maneuvered US from the edge of nuclear disaster.
And some managed a bit of both; Woodrow Wilson-who vainly attempted to keep US out of WWI, yet guided US through when we became embroiled and eventually won the Nobel Peace Prize; Nixon who yanked US out of Vietnamn, opened up China, but in the end went down as Tricky Dick; Clinton who rode the crest of an economic tsunami, and used that power to bring down the deficit, but couldn't seem to resist taking the occasional dip below the surface to swim with the sharks.
Each has their good and bad qualities, that's why in the end I chose Other- William Henry Harrison - now there's a name you can stick on the mantle. Harrison was in office for the shortest amount of time of all US presidents-approximately one month. His was the shortest term, but he gave the longest inaguration speech of any president-by the time his speech was over his term was close to nearing its end as well. He (or perhaps his handlers) was the first presidental candidate to come up with a campaign slogan, "Tippecanoe and Tyler Too." That's why I voted for Harrison. I consider him to be the father of modern political rhetoric. Just imagine where we'd be today without his sagacious contribution. ;)
 

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How the hell does that bum Clinton get on a greatest president's list? That vagrant did nothing but lounge around and get laid (granted that's what I'd do if I could, but I don't think it makes you qualify as a great president). Now FDR, there's a guy who got some s*** done. He steered us out of the great depression creating hundreds of public programs which are still around today (like social security or FDIC) and then piloted America through all but the last days of WWII and all the while couldn't walk because of a bout with polio earlier in his life.

Great presidents do great things, they don't sit on their ass watching porno movies and eating cheetos like Bill Clinton did.
 

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I knew I would leave some out, and as you can see from my spelling and my my post I was doing two things at once. I should have included Kennedy, Truman, Eisenhower, and Wilson.

Clinton is included because of the poll I made reference to. I wouldn't vote for him, but I knew some would. I wouldn't list him as our worst President though. It is really too soon to judge him, as these things take proper perspective to view objectively. We are just beginning to be able to judge Reagan effectively, and time will add still further perspective.

Sorry for not including some of the other Presidents.:o
 

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FDR. Got the country out of recession. Fought the Nazis. All from a wheelchair. By the way, how do you properly pronounce his name? Is it rose-evelt or ruse-evelt?
 

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Originally posted by Whiskey Priest
FDR. Got the country out of recession. Fought the Nazis. All from a wheelchair. By the wayhow do you properly pronounce his name? Is it rose-evelt or ruse-evelt?

I've always heard it as rose.
 
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