GreySG - Earl Grey - English Succession Game
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This is Lord of the Vikings Silverblade
(I don't have the energy to play on my own computer, I don't even see the lap-top anymore because a really messy apartment with a lot of dust, u need to have oxygen breathing apparatus to even exist in that room, don't ask me how I can sleep in there, it's even a wonder that u can get some sleep in their, with all the alien-dust-bugs)
{That was one really long parenthesis}
Here is my brief summary (sorry about the missing "year-notes", must be those bloody bastard alien-dust-bugs messing around with my brain):
[3] JS BACH'S CATHEDRAL WAS COMPLETED BY GERMANY, HURRIES A TEMPLE IN PARIS, Russia declared war on the Persians
[6]
Temple construction hurried
[8]
Contacts Russia to check their tech knowledge, they have Physics though they don't have Metallugry, we give them our world map for 3 gold per turn
[9]
Russia contacts us and want world map, metallugry for their world map, we laugh in a cruell way and declines the offer
[10]
Lose Birmingham to Germany to their superior culture society, discovers the secret of Military Tradtion, construction of courthouse in Neremberg is hurried
[12]
Palace improvement
[13]
India wants an audience, they want to trade world map for world map, we don't see the logic in that trade and refuse to proceed with that deal, construction of courthouse is hurried
[14]
Persia agrees to re-new their trade agreement with us their the gets gems and we 28 gold/turn
[15]
Construction of colosseum is hurried
[16]
Russia completes the great project Smith's Trading Company
Germany demands metallurgy or else they will be furios
[20]
Aztecs contacts us for some hard dealing with techs, they have democracy that we get for a mere sum of 60 gold and economics, France contacts us and want to extend the peace treaty we couldn't agree more with them and accept, the former city Tour of Russia is now ours in spite of our great culture, construction of libary is hurried
-Silverblade out (Try to play a little bit better than me Grey Foxus)
(I don't have the energy to play on my own computer, I don't even see the lap-top anymore because a really messy apartment with a lot of dust, u need to have oxygen breathing apparatus to even exist in that room, don't ask me how I can sleep in there, it's even a wonder that u can get some sleep in their, with all the alien-dust-bugs)
{That was one really long parenthesis}
Here is my brief summary (sorry about the missing "year-notes", must be those bloody bastard alien-dust-bugs messing around with my brain):
[3] JS BACH'S CATHEDRAL WAS COMPLETED BY GERMANY, HURRIES A TEMPLE IN PARIS, Russia declared war on the Persians
[6]
Temple construction hurried
[8]
Contacts Russia to check their tech knowledge, they have Physics though they don't have Metallugry, we give them our world map for 3 gold per turn
[9]
Russia contacts us and want world map, metallugry for their world map, we laugh in a cruell way and declines the offer
[10]
Lose Birmingham to Germany to their superior culture society, discovers the secret of Military Tradtion, construction of courthouse in Neremberg is hurried
[12]
Palace improvement
[13]
India wants an audience, they want to trade world map for world map, we don't see the logic in that trade and refuse to proceed with that deal, construction of courthouse is hurried
[14]
Persia agrees to re-new their trade agreement with us their the gets gems and we 28 gold/turn
[15]
Construction of colosseum is hurried
[16]
Russia completes the great project Smith's Trading Company
Germany demands metallurgy or else they will be furios
[20]
Aztecs contacts us for some hard dealing with techs, they have democracy that we get for a mere sum of 60 gold and economics, France contacts us and want to extend the peace treaty we couldn't agree more with them and accept, the former city Tour of Russia is now ours in spite of our great culture, construction of libary is hurried
-Silverblade out (Try to play a little bit better than me Grey Foxus)
Kev
Hired Goon
Yikes! Does this mean that I'm up again already????
Grey, it's been about 24 hours. If you'd like to play the game now have at it. If not, I'll try to play tonight.
Unless gonzo would like to sneak in some turns.
Grey, it's been about 24 hours. If you'd like to play the game now have at it. If not, I'll try to play tonight.
Unless gonzo would like to sneak in some turns.
Kev
Hired Goon
Well, with no reply on this I'll download and play. I don't think that I'll be able to get a write-up together until tomorrow night, however.
Kev
Hired Goon
Hey guys:
I am SO sorry, but work is going to keep me out of town for a few days. This was unexpected, so I apologize for not being able to alert you all sooner. I'll be able to post, but on my little Mac laptop I can't play the game.
I hope someone else will be able to play in the mean time. I should be returning late in the week - probably Friday.
Grey - the Democracy Game is just something that I stumbled onto very recently. It's a Civ2 game (though considering Civ3 next time) where all the members who play vote on every move to be done - from what to research, how to handle other civs, trade, city placement, etc. Various members are voted into postions that cover certain areas (trade, expansion, military, etc.) and they are responsible for posting polls about what should be done. The president is then the one who plays the turns per the majority.
I know that gonzo plays as well, and he's been likely doing so for longer than I have so he could tell you more. To join in, I believe you just need to contact Cornmaster who is the mod.
I am SO sorry, but work is going to keep me out of town for a few days. This was unexpected, so I apologize for not being able to alert you all sooner. I'll be able to post, but on my little Mac laptop I can't play the game.
I hope someone else will be able to play in the mean time. I should be returning late in the week - probably Friday.
Grey - the Democracy Game is just something that I stumbled onto very recently. It's a Civ2 game (though considering Civ3 next time) where all the members who play vote on every move to be done - from what to research, how to handle other civs, trade, city placement, etc. Various members are voted into postions that cover certain areas (trade, expansion, military, etc.) and they are responsible for posting polls about what should be done. The president is then the one who plays the turns per the majority.
I know that gonzo plays as well, and he's been likely doing so for longer than I have so he could tell you more. To join in, I believe you just need to contact Cornmaster who is the mod.
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Kev, you pretty much listed everything there. In addition, if anyone wants to join and will actually play(by play I mean visit the forums, vote, and post) then tell cornmaster that you are serious about joining and playing. He gets 2-3 PMs a day from people asking to join and then hardly any of them ever post, so now he usually waits a few days to add them because no one ever actually joins. So just post your real intention to play and he should add you in a little faster. No gurantees though
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Ok, here's an idea. The sweds can play now since me and Thiazi are both occupied. After them, Thiazi will play and then I will play 30 turns to make up for lost time. Any opposed, speak now or forever hold your peace.
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1430 Upgraded some Units.
1435 Germany builds Shakespears...
1445 The Germs, build Newtons..
1455 The People Love Me...
1485 Russia declared war with the Greeks... Good, they are moving their Knights out of our territory, and borders. (They can't build their Cossaks because they don't have any Saltpeter, An attack should be done before they get Nationalism... might be soon though.) Wait a little, it seems like they have saltpeter anyway... strange. They have a Musketman in Nottingham. I've found it! It's a darn Colony in old france... I'll send a Cavalry regiment there to sabotage it in the future. 90 Greyton deposed our government and pledged alliance with the Russians... I who would have a Courthous there within 5 Years (1 turn).
1495 Argh! They Have Nationalism! Might be hard to take em... ok, we might
have to resort to peaceful methods...
1500 I'll stop here...
A war against the Russians could be dangerous, we have about 20 Cavalry, not nearly enough. And they have Riflemen...
I concentrated my turn on Defence, and built almost only Musketmens and I also Upgraded a lot of spearmen and Pikemen to Musketmen. I don't remember the number, but I think we almost have 40 Musketmen by now.
In the future, we should try and build the UN, and become freinds with India, Babylon and some more, because we need their votes.
We might wanna change to Democracy, I didn't because I thought I was going to War... so next leaders choice...
1435 Germany builds Shakespears...
1445 The Germs, build Newtons..
1455 The People Love Me...
1485 Russia declared war with the Greeks... Good, they are moving their Knights out of our territory, and borders. (They can't build their Cossaks because they don't have any Saltpeter, An attack should be done before they get Nationalism... might be soon though.) Wait a little, it seems like they have saltpeter anyway... strange. They have a Musketman in Nottingham. I've found it! It's a darn Colony in old france... I'll send a Cavalry regiment there to sabotage it in the future. 90 Greyton deposed our government and pledged alliance with the Russians... I who would have a Courthous there within 5 Years (1 turn).
1495 Argh! They Have Nationalism! Might be hard to take em... ok, we might
have to resort to peaceful methods...
1500 I'll stop here...
A war against the Russians could be dangerous, we have about 20 Cavalry, not nearly enough. And they have Riflemen...
I concentrated my turn on Defence, and built almost only Musketmens and I also Upgraded a lot of spearmen and Pikemen to Musketmen. I don't remember the number, but I think we almost have 40 Musketmen by now.
In the future, we should try and build the UN, and become freinds with India, Babylon and some more, because we need their votes.
We might wanna change to Democracy, I didn't because I thought I was going to War... so next leaders choice...
Kev
Hired Goon
Thanks for filling in for me you guys.
Dang, it's tough being between two science civs like we are. They get to the 3rd age and GET Nationalism just because. A bad lot we've drawn. Especially considering that another science civ - the Persians - seem to be pretty powerful as well. You know, with the Babylonians and the Greeks (I think), do we have EVERY science civ represented in our game? Is there one that we're missing. Jeez what a pain.
I also can't believe we keep losing so many cities via culture flip. Those early wonders must be really going wild - and Germany has a BUNCH.
I'm thinking that Grey has the right idea for now: switch to democracy and really start to crank on the infrastructure. Our commercial nature will help us with this, and soon we may be able to outperform even the science civs. Perhaps we'll get a few cities back as well.
Some other ideas:
1. We may wish to put a few cities on "placeholder" with some very good wonders coming up including Theory of Evolution and Hoover. Deja vu anyone?
2. We have yet to hit a Golden Age. I'm figuring that we can get to magnetism pretty quickly, and could have Man 'O Wars up and running. The only problem is who do we attack if we look to use them. Will the war weariness then cancel out the Golden Age? Is there a wonder that could work to do this for us instead?
3. Just keep being nice and make sure we have a "placeholder" city ready to go when we have a chance for Fission and the UN.
That's about it. I'll keep up-to-date while I'm away so I can jump right back in by Friday or whenever I'm back up.
Dang, it's tough being between two science civs like we are. They get to the 3rd age and GET Nationalism just because. A bad lot we've drawn. Especially considering that another science civ - the Persians - seem to be pretty powerful as well. You know, with the Babylonians and the Greeks (I think), do we have EVERY science civ represented in our game? Is there one that we're missing. Jeez what a pain.
I also can't believe we keep losing so many cities via culture flip. Those early wonders must be really going wild - and Germany has a BUNCH.
I'm thinking that Grey has the right idea for now: switch to democracy and really start to crank on the infrastructure. Our commercial nature will help us with this, and soon we may be able to outperform even the science civs. Perhaps we'll get a few cities back as well.
Some other ideas:
1. We may wish to put a few cities on "placeholder" with some very good wonders coming up including Theory of Evolution and Hoover. Deja vu anyone?
2. We have yet to hit a Golden Age. I'm figuring that we can get to magnetism pretty quickly, and could have Man 'O Wars up and running. The only problem is who do we attack if we look to use them. Will the war weariness then cancel out the Golden Age? Is there a wonder that could work to do this for us instead?
3. Just keep being nice and make sure we have a "placeholder" city ready to go when we have a chance for Fission and the UN.
That's about it. I'll keep up-to-date while I'm away so I can jump right back in by Friday or whenever I'm back up.
Kev
Hired Goon
Yes, it seems as if the English have hit the skids here.
Well, I'll be home later tonight and can probably play some time on Saturday. I'll look and see what's going on then. If someone is going to play before that, please post as such.
Well, I'll be home later tonight and can probably play some time on Saturday. I'll look and see what's going on then. If someone is going to play before that, please post as such.
One of the Arizona guys can play now... Silverblade is skipping his turn most likely...
Well I'm thinking of introducing a rule that changes the turn of play.
We could do so that when you enter this thread if 2 players have played (Maybe 3?) then you can play if you like. That means we don't have to have a turn order.
You can just enter the thread and write "I'll play", and it's your turn. Then It doesn't matter if you can't play, someone will take your place. This doesn't mean there will be other players then us 5, I mean that we could use that system between us 5.
This could do so that one player plays every 3rd turn, but we must make it so that it doesn't become like that...
So what do you think?
Well I'm thinking of introducing a rule that changes the turn of play.
We could do so that when you enter this thread if 2 players have played (Maybe 3?) then you can play if you like. That means we don't have to have a turn order.
You can just enter the thread and write "I'll play", and it's your turn. Then It doesn't matter if you can't play, someone will take your place. This doesn't mean there will be other players then us 5, I mean that we could use that system between us 5.
This could do so that one player plays every 3rd turn, but we must make it so that it doesn't become like that...
So what do you think?
Kev
Hired Goon
OK fellow Englishmen, I've had a chance to play some turns. Actually, I played several more than usually alotted, but I hope you all won't mind as I had a specific goal that I wanted to accomplish.
We do indeed live in interesting times. On the Histograph we rank 3rd from the bottom
Still moving forward however, and it should be interesting as I've never had a game that I tried for a diplomatic victory. This will HAVE to happen with this one. The world is way to huge and developed for military or domination. The Germans are WAY to ahead to go for a space victory. Our culture is sucky with ZERO wonders and cities that seem to bail on us.
I'll not be using any clever story with this one. Being away has left me with much to do around the homefront, but I'll give you the "highlights".
Took over in 1500. Building up our infrastructure - that's a good thing. Decide it's time to change to democracy. Looking at a 7-turn anarchy period. Urgh.
In 1525 I traded Gems to the Persians for Fur, Wines and 3 gold/turn
Also traded gems and incense to the Greeks for 45 gold/turn.
In 1520 the Persians and the Germans signed an MPP
Also in this year, our one source of saltpeter dried up.
In 1540, thanks to some foresight on my part
I was able to settle the city of Exeter. It is on a hill near some Russian cities, but it kills their saltpeter colony and gives us the saltpeter 
We'll have to rush some improvements here to guard against flipping. It has a musketman and a cavalry unit so far for defense.
In 1570 Persia declared war on Russia. Things could get interesting if the Russians attack forcing Germany to enact the MPP!
In 1575 I traded Greece iron for 75 gold/turn.
In this year, the Russians begin to get very brazen and they park about 5 knights outside of our cities. I renegotiate a peace treaty and give up our world map and 110 gold.
In 1580 the Germans sign an MPP with the Aztecs. The Germans also are getting brazen and sending units to and fro. I renegotiate peace with them as well for our world map and 120 gold.
We are now a Democracy. Workers working faster and we can now really move in science.
I set up an embassy with Greece and Persia. There are MANY more to be done still if we want to make nice.
1590: I set up an ROP with Greece. I'll let you all know why in a sec.
The Russians are moving north. Hopefully to meet their doom at the hands of the Germans. Without saltpeter, the bulk of their army is knights, longbowmen, pikemen and even spearmen. However, there are rifelmen and even a few cossacks among the crowds. And crowds they are! They have MUCHO UNITS running about and could do some damage if we're not careful.
I've taken great pains to NOT ask they or the Germans to leave.
In 1600, my plan is enacted. Here's what I did:
I kept calling on the lowly French. They had no resources, two cities, and one luxury. For all that I gave them in tech, they were ALWAYS furious. Well, who wants these guys voting in the UN? Not me.
I loaded three cavalry in two caravels each. I delivered them to the outskirts of their remaining two cities - and it so happened that the Greeks bordered each one. With and ROP with the Greeks, I was able to set up my cavalry on the borders, and in 1600 I attacked.
The French are no more.
The city in the deep south was auto-razed after killing one spearman. The cavalry loaded back on the ship and can now help out if the Russians get to be bad.
The city off the west coast was taken, and that one had SILKS! Even nicer is that the harbor in the city was spared, so now we have a nice extra resource and the French are no longer an issue.
Good. They deserved it. Carry on.
That's where I ended.
Things to watch for:
1. The Russians and the Germans can REALLY cause some harm if allowed. The Germans are at LEAST 3 techs ahead of us so attacking them may mean lights out. The Russians are only one ahead (Nationalism) and we are 2 turns away from Nationalism. Without saltpeter, they may have trouble launching decent attacks, though our hold on that resource is tenuous at best right now. I'll feel better with riflemen.
2. Our democracy is running well. I'd suggest a beeline to Replaceable Parts to get us infantry for defense.
3. I started Khurskh (sp?) on a palace. The Germans started Universal Suffrage, but I was hoping for Theory of Evolution or Hoover. Might wish to start another later on to see if we can get the UN later.
4. Other civs are getting nasty about demands. I gave in to the Zulus and the Aztecs as I did not want to mess up the democracy with war weariness. All this points to the fact that our military my be on the low end. I built some infrastructure during my turn, but it may be prudent to start building back up again. We'll be better off with vet riflemen rather than conscripts that have been promoted from spearmen.
Well, that's about it. Beware our neighbors! Redo the peace when it's over - or even look for an MPP if they'll take it.
Give us some time, I think we can lay a smack on the Russians at least.
Enjoy.
We do indeed live in interesting times. On the Histograph we rank 3rd from the bottom
Still moving forward however, and it should be interesting as I've never had a game that I tried for a diplomatic victory. This will HAVE to happen with this one. The world is way to huge and developed for military or domination. The Germans are WAY to ahead to go for a space victory. Our culture is sucky with ZERO wonders and cities that seem to bail on us.I'll not be using any clever story with this one. Being away has left me with much to do around the homefront, but I'll give you the "highlights".
Took over in 1500. Building up our infrastructure - that's a good thing. Decide it's time to change to democracy. Looking at a 7-turn anarchy period. Urgh.
In 1525 I traded Gems to the Persians for Fur, Wines and 3 gold/turn
Also traded gems and incense to the Greeks for 45 gold/turn.
In 1520 the Persians and the Germans signed an MPP
Also in this year, our one source of saltpeter dried up.
In 1540, thanks to some foresight on my part
I was able to settle the city of Exeter. It is on a hill near some Russian cities, but it kills their saltpeter colony and gives us the saltpeter We'll have to rush some improvements here to guard against flipping. It has a musketman and a cavalry unit so far for defense.In 1570 Persia declared war on Russia. Things could get interesting if the Russians attack forcing Germany to enact the MPP!
In 1575 I traded Greece iron for 75 gold/turn.
In this year, the Russians begin to get very brazen and they park about 5 knights outside of our cities. I renegotiate a peace treaty and give up our world map and 110 gold.
In 1580 the Germans sign an MPP with the Aztecs. The Germans also are getting brazen and sending units to and fro. I renegotiate peace with them as well for our world map and 120 gold.
We are now a Democracy. Workers working faster and we can now really move in science.
I set up an embassy with Greece and Persia. There are MANY more to be done still if we want to make nice.
1590: I set up an ROP with Greece. I'll let you all know why in a sec.
The Russians are moving north. Hopefully to meet their doom at the hands of the Germans. Without saltpeter, the bulk of their army is knights, longbowmen, pikemen and even spearmen. However, there are rifelmen and even a few cossacks among the crowds. And crowds they are! They have MUCHO UNITS running about and could do some damage if we're not careful.
I've taken great pains to NOT ask they or the Germans to leave.
In 1600, my plan is enacted. Here's what I did:
I kept calling on the lowly French. They had no resources, two cities, and one luxury. For all that I gave them in tech, they were ALWAYS furious. Well, who wants these guys voting in the UN? Not me.
I loaded three cavalry in two caravels each. I delivered them to the outskirts of their remaining two cities - and it so happened that the Greeks bordered each one. With and ROP with the Greeks, I was able to set up my cavalry on the borders, and in 1600 I attacked.
The French are no more.
The city in the deep south was auto-razed after killing one spearman. The cavalry loaded back on the ship and can now help out if the Russians get to be bad.
The city off the west coast was taken, and that one had SILKS! Even nicer is that the harbor in the city was spared, so now we have a nice extra resource and the French are no longer an issue.
Good. They deserved it. Carry on.
That's where I ended.
Things to watch for:
1. The Russians and the Germans can REALLY cause some harm if allowed. The Germans are at LEAST 3 techs ahead of us so attacking them may mean lights out. The Russians are only one ahead (Nationalism) and we are 2 turns away from Nationalism. Without saltpeter, they may have trouble launching decent attacks, though our hold on that resource is tenuous at best right now. I'll feel better with riflemen.
2. Our democracy is running well. I'd suggest a beeline to Replaceable Parts to get us infantry for defense.
3. I started Khurskh (sp?) on a palace. The Germans started Universal Suffrage, but I was hoping for Theory of Evolution or Hoover. Might wish to start another later on to see if we can get the UN later.
4. Other civs are getting nasty about demands. I gave in to the Zulus and the Aztecs as I did not want to mess up the democracy with war weariness. All this points to the fact that our military my be on the low end. I built some infrastructure during my turn, but it may be prudent to start building back up again. We'll be better off with vet riflemen rather than conscripts that have been promoted from spearmen.
Well, that's about it. Beware our neighbors! Redo the peace when it's over - or even look for an MPP if they'll take it.
Give us some time, I think we can lay a smack on the Russians at least.
Enjoy.
