1. Firaxis celebrates the "Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month", and offers a give-away of a Civ6 anthology copy (5 in total)! For all the details, please check the thread here. .
    Dismiss Notice

GUARDED: but everything is yellow/green

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by mclericp, Feb 6, 2014.

  1. mclericp

    mclericp Warlord

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2013
    Messages:
    244
    I noticed this in my late game mostly. Nearly all the civs are either afraid(zulu included) or guarded. But the guarded ones have all but one positive things.

    For example, we made friendship, we fought common foe, we provided help, we adopted religion and same ideology etc. Then on some of the Guarded civs, there is 'they fear our great might' and 'they covet our lands'.

    Why is this the case, if they were treating me like a friend, shouldnt they be friendly? I noticed i can trade the full gold per turn on luxury(6gpt) so there isnt any penalties.
    I can provide a screenie if u guys like
     
  2. nanomage

    nanomage Longbowman

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2008
    Messages:
    710
    Location:
    msk, rf
    maybe it's the side effect of you having nukes (of just a huge military). Also "covet your lands" is a moderately strong negative modifier afaik
     
  3. Arcaian

    Arcaian Warlord

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2013
    Messages:
    209
    Full gpt is 8 :)
     
  4. tide15

    tide15 Warlord

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2013
    Messages:
    114
    The AI civs will never truly be your friends.
     
  5. calyth

    calyth /bin/sh of a man

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2005
    Messages:
    436
    Yup. Not being able to trade a lux at 7-8gpt is a great sign there's something annoying them. They're either not showing it or really covet your lands.
     
  6. Gamewizard

    Gamewizard Emperor

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    1,234
    You must have nukes, right?
     
  7. civ54lyfe

    civ54lyfe Prince

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2012
    Messages:
    563
    out of a few hundred games-ish, i seem to remember one single time that a AI was Afraid w/o me having nukes. or maybe just misremembering this.

    but my general experience has been that once you get nukes, those AI who were previously Friendly now become Afraid. any AI who was anything other than Friendly now become Guarded. and that's totally weird/illogical to me. ...this is specifically in a situation where only you have any nukes at this point.


    oh btw, CS's are different. i've just sailed a Nuclear Sub (while not having any nukes yet) and also I THINK also a Destroyer once through CS waters, and suddenly it became Afraid of me. i remember the Nuc Sub event specifically though.

    oh one last thing, i think (in the same AI situation as above) that any AI who were Hostile now become Guarded once you get a nuke.
     
  8. mclericp

    mclericp Warlord

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2013
    Messages:
    244
    really? I have never gone above 6gpt even to those who are real friendly civs
     
  9. Browd

    Browd Dilettante Administrator

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2012
    Messages:
    11,967
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Rural Vermont
    Maximum price AI will pay for a luxury in BNW is 7 gpt plus 8 gold, if you are friends. AI will not pay 8 gpt for a single luxury.
     
  10. Furret

    Furret Tryhard

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    88
    Location:
    Rochester, NY
    Although if you're friends it's better to take 240 gold assuming they have the funds.

    EDIT: The AI values 1 gpt at just over 33 gold (on standard speed) which is actually 1.1 gpt (use that to calculate on different speeds), which is why they will pay less overall gold if they have to pay it per turn. (7 x 33 = 231 + 8 = 239)
     
  11. reddishrecue

    reddishrecue Deity

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2009
    Messages:
    5,538
    I try to take this offer for as long as I can. Ais then lower the price as time passes by.
     
  12. Napoleonbuff

    Napoleonbuff Chieftain

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2010
    Messages:
    8
    I frequently get 8 gpt for a single trade item, but I prefer to play on Quick, so perhaps that impacts?
     

Share This Page