Guess the map 14: We mapped our sky before we mapped our Earth

[Hrothbern]

I would say that it is more useful to focus on where these rivers are located.



You would be half right! Correct on the blue. Red needs reformulation to be 100% exact.

Red would be more regular weather ?
(compared to "as is" (with blue getting more irregular weather, with more extremes, as change))

 

[amadeus]

Would this have to do with the severity of impact on habitation? If I’m correct, don’t count me as the winner since @Birdjaguar etc. did all the heavy lifting!

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Blue is where the tropical and subtropical rainforests are.

Blue is seeing more change. Rivers are involved.

Deforestation is a vexing environmental and political issue in Canada (there's a mix of red and blue shades in Canada on this map).

So my guess: Increasing levels of deforestation?

(as in the white areas don't have any trees to speak of for deforestation to be an issue there; it's either never going to happen or it already happened tens of thousands or even millions of years ago).

 

[Gelion]

Red would be more regular weather ?
(compared to "as is" (with blue getting more irregular weather, with more extremes, as change))

I could de described as such.

Would this have to do with the severity of impact on habitation? If I’m correct, don’t count me as the winner since @Birdjaguar etc. did all the heavy lifting!

Very very loosely perhaps.

Blue is where the tropical and subtropical rainforests are.
Blue is seeing more change. Rivers are involved.
Deforestation is a vexing environmental and political issue in Canada (there's a mix of red and blue shades in Canada on this map).
So my guess: Increasing levels of deforestation?
(as in the white areas don't have any trees to speak of for deforestation to be an issue there; it's either never going to happen or it already happened tens of thousands or even millions of years ago).

Well, its not forests or de-forestation by themselves, but its somewhat related in some areas (I imagine).

Should I start giving more direct hints?

 

[Deadly Dog]

Blue is increased risks from flooding, red is increased risks from extreme heat?

Edit: specifically wildfire risks, noticing now that desert can get hotter still but won't burn

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Blue is increased risks from flooding, red is increased risks from extreme heat?

Edit: specifically wildfire risks, noticing now that desert can get hotter still but won't burn

The map won't reflect current events, but Western Canada, especially British Columbia and Alberta, experienced a heat dome a month ago and one of the towns in BC that broke heat records 3 days in a row subsequently burned to the ground after a stray spark caused by a train passing through (the current theory as to the cause of the fire). I'm talking about temperatures 40C and over.

Much of BC is on fire now, and this is sadly not a new thing. Forest fires and wildfires have been getting worse there over the past several years. The fires are so intense that they create their own weather systems, including lightning storms without any rain. The lightning is causing even more fires.

There are lots of rivers in the red portions of Europe so I'm not sure that flooding is it, unless the map is about the tropical/subtropical regions.

So how to connect all these "partly" answers... The desert regions are white. The tropical and subtropical rainforests are blue.

Deforestation is somewhat related... Deforestation (in this part of Canada) occurs due to logging and to the proliferation of pine beetles munching their way east, from BC to Alberta, and it's been discovered that only prolonged extreme cold will kill them. There have been very bad forest fires in these provinces five years in a row (at least; I wasn't really paying much attention until 2016).

Fewer healthy trees means the ground is less stable, and floods can facilitate landslides that can thoroughly mess up the local environment, especially if there are rivers that are home to migratory fish, like salmon going home to spawn.

(I'm going stream of consciousness here; I know this map isn't about salmon)

Should I start giving more direct hints?

One or two, please.

 

[Deadly Dog]

The map won't reflect current events, but Western Canada, especially British Columbia and Alberta, experienced a heat dome a month ago and one of the towns in BC that broke heat records 3 days in a row subsequently burned to the ground after a stray spark caused by a train passing through (the current theory as to the cause of the fire). I'm talking about temperatures 40C and over.

Much of BC is on fire now, and this is sadly not a new thing. Forest fires and wildfires have been getting worse there over the past several years. The fires are so intense that they create their own weather systems, including lightning storms without any rain. The lightning is causing even more fires.

There are lots of rivers in the red portions of Europe so I'm not sure that flooding is it, unless the map is about the tropical/subtropical regions.

So how to connect all these "partly" answers... The desert regions are white. The tropical and subtropical rainforests are blue.

Deforestation is somewhat related... Deforestation (in this part of Canada) occurs due to logging and to the proliferation of pine beetles munching their way east, from BC to Alberta, and it's been discovered that only prolonged extreme cold will kill them. There have been very bad forest fires in these provinces five years in a row (at least; I wasn't really paying much attention until 2016).

Fewer healthy trees means the ground is less stable, and floods can facilitate landslides that can thoroughly mess up the local environment, especially if there are rivers that are home to migratory fish, like salmon going home to spawn.

(I'm going stream of consciousness here; I know this map isn't about salmon)


One or two, please.

It's true what you say I expected Western Canada to be much more red myself. But then prolonged heavy rainfall events are coming along as the jetsrteam breaks up just as often as heatwaves and drought. Hence green?

Note however deforestation is not driven by logging in Canada but by agriculture, hydro electric, mining and oil & gas:

https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/our-natural...e/indicator-deforestation-afforestation/16546

 

[Gelion]

Blue is increased risks from flooding, red is increased risks from extreme heat?
Edit: specifically wildfire risks, noticing now that desert can get hotter still but won't burn

You are correct! Blue are the areas with increased risks from flooding due to climate change, red are areas with decreased risks.
Sources here and here.

@Valka D'Ur, despite your valiant effort you were correct on the environmental damage aspect.

@Deadly Dog over to you

 

[Deadly Dog]

Uh, slow browser reload. Thanks for the kudos...open floor!

I actually had this idea yesterday but discounted it for the same reasons as Valka. Today's guesses and hints convinced me to rethink it.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

You are correct! Blue are the areas with increased risks from flooding due to climate change, red are areas with decreased risks.
Sources here and here.

@Valka D'Ur, despite your valiant effort you were correct on the environmental damage aspect.

@Deadly Dog over to you

I'm a bit confused. I was correct on environmental damage despite my valiant effort?

"Despite" implies the opposite. I really did try to think this through. With the deserts marked in such an obvious way and the rainforests also obvious, this map screamed something climate-related.

Not arguing with your verdict, just trying to understand how close I actually got. I guess this is something that's so close (in terms of stuff I read about daily) that I didn't write down everything I was thinking (mental shorthand that doesn't translate to words).

But it seems I was sort of in the neighborhood, and other than the rat-free zone map a long while back, this is the closest I've ever come to figuring out one of these map games, so that's something.

@Deadly Dog: Yes, those are all reasons for logging, but it's the final act of cutting a tree down that makes it dead. You can't clear the land for agriculture and mining without getting rid of the trees, and that's true in Canada, South America, or anywhere else. There's a woman in Australia who is determined that she wants to mine coal in the Rockies in Alberta and so help me, our Premier thinks that's a wonderful idea. All he ever sees are dollar signs, and none of the consequences, whether environmental or social. Only his sycophants are stupid enough to think this would be of any economic benefit to the ordinary people of this province.

Of course this will result in massive loss of trees, which in turn will not do the climate of this part of the world any favors.

 

[Gelion]

I'm a bit confused. I was correct on environmental damage despite my valiant effort?

"Despite" implies the opposite. I really did try to think this through. With the deserts marked in such an obvious way and the rainforests also obvious, this map screamed something climate-related.

I am sorry, I erased part of the phrase... I meant to say that despite your effort Deadly Dog got there first...

But it seems I was sort of in the neighborhood, and other than the rat-free zone map a long while back, this is the closest I've ever come to figuring out one of these map games, so that's something.

Thats what I meant.... I'm sorry, my cognitive function isn't quite where it used to be.

Open floor it is.

 

[Deadly Dog]

Ok, it's weekend again and I pipped off early to find a map, something I was shocked to learn in a radio story I heard earlier this week.

Dark orange is the mostest, grey is none at all.

 

[The_J]

Something something animals?

 

[Birdjaguar]

Economics related?

Doesn't appear to be tied to religion.

Is this a recent or short term thing?

 

[Deadly Dog]

Not animals, not religion. Economics related yes.

How recent or long term I can't say.

What surprised me about this map is apparently a recent trend (less than 2 decades).

 

[Birdjaguar]

is it a cultural trend like eating less meat or taking longer vacations?

 

[Deadly Dog]

is it a cultural trend like eating less meat or taking longer vacations?

No I would think of that as social. This is more economic.

 

[The_J]

Part of the GDP spent into something? (if I now had an idea about that something...)

 

[EnglishEdward]

Material incentives for vaccination?

 

[Deadly Dog]

Not an expenditure, nor a health initiative.

Here's a hint, the data for the top countries on the map

Canada 3,233,800

India 1,055,536

Turkey 365,000

United States of America 255,061

Nepal 253,041

Australia 181,638

Ethiopia 166,274

Bangladesh 158,228

China 142,991

Kazakhstan 139,724

Syria 112,193

The real hint is that I'm Canadian and I had no idea Canada would have the most of this thing, let alone more than the next 10 countries combined.