Guide to NESing!

What do you plan for the "Modding a NES" section?
 
5. Modding a NES

5.1 Before modding (what to consider and when to start)

5.2 So you want to do it? (setup) - everything on the NES setup and how to make it interestnig
5.3 Modding a NES - how to mod and what to do
5.4 (not there yet) Stopping a NES or freezing it
 
Nice work, Toteone. Just remember that lots of troops need lots of supplies, which basically means that pocketing huge amounts of troops, especially untrained troops, will make it extremelly easy to either destroy them, either herd them into forced labor camps.
Very true, these flashy new-generation NES's have started to actually take supply into account every now and then. Unfortunately POW's aren't properly rewarded yet, but forced labor of the entire population is... sometimes.
 
Hmm... Gelion, what about picking the rules? That's quite important as well.
 
Thats what I am trying to understand. Where to put the rules example and so on....
Should it be under NES setup? (i.e. include the rules there), appendix etc?

btw guys we already talked about this some time ago, but I have to ask you again.
How do you update? What do you do first in the update? What tools you use?
Please write as detailed as possible. As if you wanted to explain this to your best friend who wants to become a NES mod. Thanks :)
 
Well, firstly I read all the stories in the thread and give appropriate bonuses, but most NESes don't have that system. I copy all orders to a separate doc. file and then work through them several times. First, I edit the stats (i.e. the stat growth and the random and not-so-random bonuses) and write down the non-military events. Then, I work through the military orders, war-by-war, front-by-front. When its a PC conflict, well... its rather hard because many players fail to specify a lot of stuff, most often transportation and timing. But anyway, I review orders of both sides and carry them out in my mind simoltaneously unless said otherwise and see when they collide, after which things often derail greatly from the original plan.

I tend to try to write down the spotlight earlier, though.
 
The Complete Guide to Genocide
By silver 2039

Genocide- The extermination of a specific group of people on the basis of ethnicity, race, religion, color, or politics.

In NES one must be careful when starting genocide. There are certain things you must ask yourself before starting one, such as:

1.What group am I seeking to eliminate?

2.Why do I want to eliminate them?

3.How do I want to eliminate them?

4.What does this group contribute to my nation?

5. Will my government/nation/citizens tolerate this?

6.Can I keep this a secret from the international community?

7.Will there be any backlash from either the group or the international community?

All these questions must be carefully considered and answered before pursuing genocide. You must carefully define who you want to eliminate and why.
For example: In Stormbringer’s Cold War NES

The Peoples Republic of China

1.Elimnate Uighar Muslims and Tibetans

2.Problematic minority group’s removal and repopulation will free up land

3.Send in the army empty the population centers and kill them all by shooting them

4.No contribution. Desire independence separatists.

5.Totaliarian Communism no problems

6. Difficult to hide genocide on large scale

7.Backlash was not predicted it took a turn or two before anything was done. The international community tried to end it and sent inspectors. The genocide was covered up as a rebellion that was being suppressed. Nothing much happened.

The genocide was a success the two problematic minority groups were wiped out and the area repopulated with citizens loyal to the Party.

In this circumstance the genocide was a success. One must always consider these factors before beginning genocide. Now moving onto my recommendations:

1.Always eliminate a group that does not contribute much to your nation you will only be damaging to yourself, and most importantly make sure the group is small. The mistake I made in GoobNES01: Fallout as India was attempting to genocide the Muslims, which encompassed 300 million people.
Make sure the group you try to eliminate does not have a presence in the government or military otherwise it will not end well as I discovered with Arabia in Kamillian’s NES when 3 million of my soldiers defected after they turned out to be Coptic Christians.

2. Your reasons for eliminating must be clear. Only eliminate groups that cause problems for you. Only eliminate a group if something good will come out of it.

3. The means of elimination is important. It is best to have a speedy method as well as an organized one.

Firing Squad
Have the army herd the targeted groups in concentration camps lock them inside. Dig large pits for mass graves. Have them line up in front of the pits and shoot them. They will fall inside. Then call up the next batch and so on. You can rinse and repeat until the pit is full. Then it is recommended you burn the bodies to leave no trace of evidence

Gas Chamber
The usage of gas chambers is also a good way of elimination. In the camps build large rooms, which are airtight and you can release, gas into. Chlorine, Sarin, and VX are a few types of gas you can use. Cram as many people as possible into the chamber and gas them. Once the gas has cleared take the bodies and burn them.

Explosives
Take the group marked for elimination to some remote area where you have a holding area (Large fence, barbed wire etc). Make sure the holding areas are large and all next to each other and cram as many people as possible into them. Lock the people inside the areas. Place many powerful explosives (napalm, TNT) in the holding areas and detonate them. The beauty of this method is that you can wipe out a massive amount of people in a short amount of time. The bodies are also destroyed and burnt during the explosion so little trace should be left. The holding area can be rebuilt quickly since all it consists of is fencing and barbed wire.
Note: This method can be preformed with nuclear weapons as well however one must be careful to perform it in an extremely remote area and make sure your soldiers are wearing NBC suits to protect them. The usage of nukes is expensive and not recommended unless against a very large group.


These are just a few methods that can be used. Always remember that it is best do it quickly and organized. Disposal of the bodies is also important to leave no trace. No doubt you can come up with many more methods of your own.

4.Examine carefully the good things the group does for your nation and weather any of those good things are necessary. Such as do they own many businesses? Do they have a large presence in the military? Etc…

5.Make sure that you have a type of government that will allow genocide. It is best to have a Fascist or Totalitarian form of government where you are in complete control and can crush any dissent if people dare voice it. Never carry out genocide in a reprehensive form of government such as Democracy or Constitutional Monarchy. That was a mistake I made in GoobNES01: Fallout and it cost me.

6.It is important to take measures to keep genocide secret from the international community since it is doubtful all of them especially the representative one’s will look upon genocide favorably.
Measures to hide it can include:

Catalyst
Make an excuse. Have a bomb blast somewhere in your nation and blame some minority group. Or spark a rebellion. When you crack down on them it will look less unfavorable.

Hiding
Do it quietly. Take the group away in the dark of the night to concentration camps in remote areas of your country such as desert, mountains, or jungle where no one would look. Destroy the bodies to leave no evidence.


Faking

Call the concentration camps “Top Secret Military Bases” so no one goes near it. From outer appearance make the camp look innocuous keep the people inside. Make sure to post guards and have security measures.

Timing
Wait for an opportunity to arise. If you genocide when a nuclear world war is going on it is far less likely that people will care.

No doubt there are more but these are the most common ones.

7.Now a very important thing to do is predict the reaction of the international community. It is important to know what actions they will take to stop the genocide. They may condemn you in the UN or place embargo/sanction or send inspectors. Or they may take stronger action such as invasion.
Their reaction is influenced by certain factors:

Knowledge
Do they know about the genocide? If you have hidden it well then they should not. They can’t do anything about what they don’t know about.

Government
The government of both your nations affects reactions. If a dictatorship starts genocide then a democracy is more likely to do something about it than another dictatorship.

Status
Do you have any allies? If you are a country with powerful allies or you have power yourself it affects the actions of other countries. After all no one is going to invade a nuclear armed superpower. Except Sheep of course but lets not go there….

Once you have read this guide and adhere to it I can assure you that you will have many successful genocides.

All information on this guide has been derived from experience in the following NES’s:

Sources:
Stormbringer/Gelion/Capulet: StbNES Age of Peace and Survival as China
Goober: GoobNES01: Fallout as India
Kamalian:???? as Arabia
Sheep: Alternate History WWII as Iberia


Disclaimer: The above article should not be tried at home. Useage for NES only
Rated:PG-13
 
Silver it is a good read. The only thing that concerns me is how will a total newbie who only just opened a NESing forum or this guide will react to this?
He will think that we are totally mad (which we are) and will close the guide in disgust...
anyway's I want other NESers to say if they want to include this in the guide...
I am sorry, but I think you undestand that it is an issue. I am not talking about not including this at all and I do like, but it sounds a little "not for kids ears" to me.
 
:)
Anyways I will wait to see what other NESers say about this....
 
:lol: great include it at once :)
 
Very good, but I think there's a problem with the Means. All those proposed are modern age-only. Ofcourse, that's why its harder to genocide people off in earlier ages, but, that said, it is possible to do it before the Age of Reason by simply and blatantly massacring them. See Crusades against heretics.

I think it should be added, but as a "secondary part". I mean, the first part is the main principles, the secondary part is the more specific issues already WITHIN the NES, like warfare, diplomacy, and, ofcourse, genocide.
 
You really think this guide will be accepted on many forums if it advocates how to conduct genocide? Hell I am even trying to reduce references on spying and betrayal! This "guide to genocide" could even be used in real life come to think of it..... how many will like that?
 
I even planned to genocide the Greek's in one of Das nesses, (Hungary-Croatia) but lost. The plan was to defeat the Greeks and Drive the Islamics back in cooperation with the Black Army. Genocide every one of the greeks and populate Greece with Hungarians and Croat's. :lol: That did not go so well.

This part of the guide should be included. But not as one of the first sections in the Guide or people will get the wrong image.

OCC: In real life i could not harm a single person, so don't get the wrong impression of me. :)
 
^^^
Ah my first war :) the memories...
 
Okay, unless I hear any more valid points, I will include it under "NESers arcticles" and put a disclaimer in front.
 
The Art of Guerrila Warfare
By Communisto

"It is better to die on your feet than live your life on your knees"​

When everything fails and your people have been layed out infront of your hated enemy and everything is lost, you have two options; Surrender or Guerrila war. Most have not been known to choose the former...

The first thing to know about Guerrila warfare is that an organized group of individuals, well armed and fighting for a united cause will always eventually overcome. We see this in history. To understand this you have to look at your main threats when waging partisan warfare:

1: Genocide and Ethnic Relocation
If your NES takes place in a world where Fascist ideologies rule the day or large Empires are at their height than this could be a major problem. Take for example the I.R.A campaign in SheepNES: Alt Hist WWII. Here the Fascist British used concentration camps to wipe the Irish out, they also transported Britons to Ireland to Ethnically replace the Irish. As the British were a puppet of Germany; the mightiest nation in the world it had enough allies to allow this. But in most Neses this will not be a factor as it will [a] grant you large support from your own populace and [b) bring down democracies on your side as allies.

2: Taking Land
There is a differance between a civil war and a guerrila war and it is important to make that distinction. A civil war is where a nation splits and relatively equal forces fight each other such as the Russian Civil war in Nes2 III in which Stormbringer's White Army took on Sheep2's Red Army for control of Rossiya. The very entertaining conflict was a conventional war fought by two sides with the White Army comming out on top. Guerrila war is the fight of the weak and oppressed. We use it when there is no way we can engage our oppressors in open, conventional war. Thus, taking and holding land like a normal military operation is a radical mistake as it allows your enemy to see where you are and attack you at the throat. An example of this is in SheepNES: Alt Hist where Russian guerrilas fought German occupiers but did not make it clear in their orders to not take land, this resulted in nuclear strikes that damaged the cause.

3: No Support
The most important thing about fighting a guerrila war is to have your people on your side. If the enemy uses propoganda or if you attack your own people, you might as well set down your guns and march straight to the enemy capital. This opens up the fact; DO NOT BE TERRORIST. Terrorism is different than Guerrila-ism. Terrorists are destructors, they have a cause but do not know how to achieve it so they destroy everything and hold it captive. Guerrila's use their most powerful weapons; the people and the refusal to submit. If you can have these two things on your side you win, if you kill everything you will have no supporters and you will lose.

Here are some tactics I have found useful in my many Guerrila wars in Ireland.

Land of Death: Make the land you are trying to liberate become a word for death in your enemie's military slang. Attack any military movement in the area and run away. This includes patrols, camps and especially convoys which can be raided for arms and weaponry to be returned to your stockpile. It is important to strike and run there is no cowardice in fighting an empire a thousand times stronger than you, especially if you win.

Underground Nespapers: If at all possible, write stories in newspaper form about how the war is going. Write inspirationally and try and rally the people to you. Here is an example of something i wrote....

To all peoples of Ireland​

The British have begun their project to exterminate the Irish people. That means catholics AND protestants. If you are a strong Irish and have the brain to think for yourself, then you are a target to die, but not only you, your family, your children, your spouse and your parents. Make no mistake, this is the end for Ireland as we know it. But a new Ireland can become. All it takes is for yourself to cast off the shackles of imperialist oppression. No that unless you raise your rifle that your entire world will be gone, everything you know and love will be destroyed. Fascism is the ultimate evil, we are being wiped from the face of the Earth. Sinn Fein asks of you not to waver in the face of this, our greatest obstacle. Instead, stand fast, remember who you are and where you come from and everything will be fine. This IS the last thing standing in the way of a United Ireland. Eire Nua brothers and sisters, fight on.​

as you can see it is not that hard, it doesnt take long but it helps you get volunteers.

Also, never consript people, always ask for volunteers. They fight more tenaciously and it raises your precious support.

here is how to begin a Guerrila campaign.

The Pre-War
Secretly organize things with your mod. See if the people are willing to fight. Don't openly declare your intentions in the Thread, just PM your mod and tell him that you are interested. Then begin holding peacefull political rallies and marches to get the people thinking. Maybe you can get what you want bloodlessly.

The Search For Arms
Find powerful allies who want to see your target distabalized for their own gain. It is easy to play off the greed of the world powers. This can aquire you money, sympathy, rifles, bombs and in some cases, Nukes.

Declare Independance
Declare your will for independance if it seperatism you are striving for the. This can sometimes be put like;

Together, the people of the Basques nation declare their full and soveriegn independance from our ancient oppressors. Any infignement on this most noble decree will be met with open warfare

this can sometimes scare your enemy into giving in (though rarely)

Organizing the Volunteers and Cause
It is important to organize your angry volunteers. Military wise, it is important to keep detatchments relatively small so they can slip in and out of territory, striking hard and fast. The ideal for a "Flying Column" as I usually refer to them is no more than 300 men at one time. This is a good mobile size. As for leadership, having a good, strong, idealistic figure is a good idea. But make it so that if he falls it will be easy to replace him so the cause does not seem lost to the people. It is also important for your brigades to be well disciplined and able to work by themselves. Split your area into Quadrants and assign brigades to them. The men should be able to use their native lands to their advantage and should be able to cause havoc without your direct orders. It is imperative that the boys can defend themselves and know the tactics of the cause without constant guidance like in a conventional army

The Rising
Whatever your first move, it is important that it is big and that you either succeed greatly or fail in a spur of blood and attrocities. For if you win then you have a large amount of people seeing that "hey, maybe we can win!" and if you fail you have masses of angry [insert oppressed peoples] seekin revenge for their countrymen being slaughtered at the hands of the occupiers.

***​

There it is, how to wage the most dramatic and inspiring form of warfare as told by a man who has kinda gained the reputation as a "terrorist" on the NES board for always being an Irish Guerrila. Oh well, tis a good fit.

One last thing

Whatever you face, know this: You cannot lose. There will always be a spark of defiance in the oppressed. Even genocide cannot stop you. You must succeed, you will succeed. Watch your back, informers are everywhere. Take up the gun and join me in revolution.
 
Good one Communisto :goodjob: guerilla to death!
 
OOC: But Gelion, if someone actually does think that it will benefit him to commit genocide, that person is probably creative enough to come up with ways to do that himself. So, no harm there. Besides, from what I remember, there's a lot of guides to genocide in the web anyway. So, world won't become a much worse place to live in, don't worry. ;)

But, anyway, you can always call it the "Guide to Genocide in NESing".
the Russian Civil war in Nes2 III in which Stormbringer's White Army took on Sheep2's Red Army for control of Rossiya.

Problem is, Sheep2 left by then.
Terrorism is different than Guerrila-ism

Actually, IMHO Pereslegin's definition of terrorism is the most correct. It is the "offensive guerrila warfare"; "guerrilism", thus, is "defensive terrorist warfare". Ofcourse, aim-less destruction is what often follows in terrorist warfare, it being targetted against the enemy homeland itself; while the guerrilas are fighting in their own country.

So, agreed.
this can sometimes scare your enemy into giving in (though rarely)

Sadly, a great many of NESers give in too easily...

All-in-all, very good article. Though can you add something on organization? I.e. how to organize the struggle. There are some different approaches to it, though a de-centralized cell system with replaceable leadership seems best.

Getting back to you, Gelion, I think I'll write up something on diplomacy if you want.
 
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