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[RD] Hannity just incited Mueller witnesses to obstruct justice

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Zkribbler, Jun 7, 2018.

  1. Zkribbler

    Zkribbler Warlord

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    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/3...eller-probe-smash-their-phones-to-little-itsy

    Fox News host Sean Hannity appeared on Wednesday to advise witnesses in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation to destroy their personal phones before handing them over to prosecutors.

    "If I advised them to follow Hillary Clinton’s lead, delete all your emails and then acid-wash your emails and hard drives on the phones, then take your phones and bash them with a hammer to little itsy bitsy pieces, use BleachBit, remove the sim cards and then take the pieces and hand them over to Robert Mueller," Hannity said on air.

    The conservative television host's comments came after CNBC reported that Mueller's team had asked witnesses in its probe to turn over their personal phones for examination of encrypted messaging apps, like WhatsApp, Dust and Signal.

    The reported request followed a court filing from Mueller's team accusing former Trump campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, of attempted witness tampering — in part by using encrypted messaging apps. Mueller asked the court on Monday to revoke or revise Manafort's release conditions, including his bond and house arrest, in response to the court filing.


    On "incitement" Wikipedia says:

    Here the incitement is Imminent because Hannity says do it before turning over your phone. :hammer:

    Findlaw says federal obstruction of justice is:
    https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/obstruction-of-justice.html

    Here, Hannity advocates witnesses to destroy evidence needed in the Russia investigation. I say, it's off to the hoosegow with him. :thumbsdown:
     
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  2. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    Didnt Micheal Cohen office get raided because he was about to destroy evidence ?
    Also weren't Clintons phones destroyed as standard procedure after she resigned as Sec of State and before being supeoned by the FBI ?

    Facts have a liberal bias
     
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  3. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    Yes, yes, and indeed they do.
     
  4. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    Nice. I would have also accepted "pokey".
     
  5. Zkribbler

    Zkribbler Warlord

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    I sit corrected. :blush:
     
  6. El_Machinae

    El_Machinae Colour vision since 2018 Retired Moderator

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    Can't private citizens bring forward charges in the US?
     
  7. onejayhawk

    onejayhawk Afflicted with reason

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    You are claiming Hillary Clinton committed a felony during the 2016 campaign. Why didn't you say so at the time?

    J

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  8. metalhead

    metalhead Angry Bartender

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    He didn't claim that. Please don't lie about other posters' posts.
     
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  9. Broken_Erika

    Broken_Erika Neurotic Panda

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    No, Hannity is the one making that claim, you missed the little " thingies that indicate a "quote".
     
  10. Nexlev

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    I'm not a lawyer but Hannity's trolling is not incitement. It's not posed as advice but as a rhetorical argument

     
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  11. El_Machinae

    El_Machinae Colour vision since 2018 Retired Moderator

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    I'd like to point out that Nexlev's post is very good. And TheHill.com's headline is also very good. A headline should entice people to read, but it should also leave them more informed after reading it. But their http link title is bad.
     
  12. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    Only one Felony ?
    Clinton ran a fake university to scamm students out of money, kept getting bankrupt so many times that no US bank would lend them any money, scammed contractors by not paying them, then was warned by the FBI that Russia was trying to inflitrate their campaign and to report all activity to the FBI instead set up meeting with Russians, Ran a charity and then use charity money as a personal bank account, promised to pay millions to charity and then pay nothing
    LOCK HER UP !
     
  13. Berzerker

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    if I said people being investigated by Mueller should destroy the evidence, Mueller would send people after me for inciting the obstruction of justice?

    eh, I think my complicity has to be a bit more...complicit

    thats an interesting question though, at what point would it become an incitement?
     
  14. Ajidica

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    Given how closely tied Hannity is with His Trumpiness - such as through the "lawyer" Michael Cohen - it could be approaching levels of playing with fire.
     
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  15. onejayhawk

    onejayhawk Afflicted with reason

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    You cannot wiggle out of this one with a simple denial. His main point that Hannity is encouraging others to do what Clinton's staff did, which is a felony. Clinton's staff did destroy evidence. This is a felony. Not a lot of wiggle room for you.

    That too.

    J
     
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    Broken_Erika Neurotic Panda

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    Do you even know what a quotation sign means? Or are you so thick-skulled that i have to spell it out for you?
     
  17. Berzerker

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    "If I advised them to follow Hillary Clinton’s lead, delete all your emails and then acid-wash your emails and hard drives on the phones, then take your phones and bash them with a hammer to little itsy bitsy pieces, use BleachBit, remove the sim cards and then take the pieces and hand them over to Robert Mueller,"

    did that really happen? if so, was it during an ongoing investigation?
     
  18. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    Hillary Phones - she had 11 of them of which 2 were turned over to the FBI, the rest was destroyed after she resigned as Sec of State
    Hillary's Emails - I stand corrected Hillary emails were deleted after the supeona which triggered the FBI investigation into her missing emails as part of the Benghazi investigation

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-smash-phone-hammer/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-says-hillary-clinton-deleted-33000-em/
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ongress/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.78d4b158e847
     
  19. onejayhawk

    onejayhawk Afflicted with reason

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    Then you acknowledge some of the felonies we know to have occurred. Each email is a separate crime and all that.

    The point is the obvious, and odious, double standard.

    J

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  20. FriendlyFire

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    Double standards ? This ?

    You do Remember that Comey re-opened Hillary email investigations during the election and then publicly announced it, while sitting on multiple FBI investigations into Trump associates right ?
    You do know that 4 Americans just got killed in Africa under Trump and Republicans are doing jack [censored]
    You do know that Kusher and other are using private emails to conduct government business while in the white house and Republicans are doing jack [censored]
     
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