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Hard Iron Manufacturing Corporation

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Demo Game IV: RPG' started by Provolution, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    Hard Iron Manufacturing Corporation - HIM-CORP

    Founded 1400 AD by Provoshogun and Lord Civius

    HISTORY OF HIM-CORP


    Equity of Shares:

    Provoshogun 70 000 shares (70 %)
    Lord Civius 30 000 shares (30 %)

    Hard Iron Manufacturing Corporation is the sole production corporation of iron-based goods throughout all of Aretania.

    There will be 5 main Medieval Production Lines from the corporation and 2 luxury production lines.

    1. HIM-CORP WEAPONS (10 % of capacity)

    • Katana
    • Spear
    • Bow and Arrow
    • Dual Sai Set
    • Lance and Shield

    2 HIM-CORP ARMOR (20 % of capacity)
    • Samurais Chainmail
    • Knights Full Plate
    • Pikemans Tower Shield
    • Saddle and Spurs (Jointly made of iron and boarskin)
    • Infantrymans studded mail (iron and pigskin)

    3. HIM-CORP MINING AND FARMING EQUIPMENT (20 % of capacity, 20 workforces)

    • 1 000 Iron Picks for Mining workforce (Mining sensitive)
    • 1 000 Iron Axes for Lumbering workforce (Lumbering sensitive)
    • 1 000 Iron Ploughshears for Farmer workforce (Farming sensitive)
    • 1 000 Iron Manacles for Slaver workforce (Slaving sensitive)
    • 1 00 Iron Hammers and Anvils for smithies (CIty building sensitive)

    4. HIM-CORP CASTLE AND DUNGEONS
    (20 % of capacity, 20 project units)

    • 100 Iron Man Cages 2 project units
    • 100 Iron-plated Doors 2 project units
    • Castle gate with iron girder and iron chains and stretcher 4 project units
    • Safe room with complete iron plating 2 project units
    • Complete torture room with iron maiden and assorted instruments 1 project unit

    5. HIM-CORP ENGINES AND INFRASTRUCTURE (40 % of capacity, 40 project units)

    • Iron Chains, iron levers, iron engines and enough iron nails for a 100 hammer
    • Construction Firm (5 project unit cost)
    • Iron Anvils, Iron Hammers, Iron Forges, Iron Blast Ovens, Iron Reels and so on, all needed for a 2000 gold Manufacturing firm (8 project unit cost)
    • Enough Iron nails, tools, trappings, lifts and so on needed to operate your own port (10 project units)
    • Enough Iron rails, iron cars, silting mechanisms, shovels and picks needed to operate a mine in the hills (10 project units)
    • Enough Iron Engines and mechanisms needed to help build your own modern castle or palace (30 project units)



    6. HIM-CORP "SUPERIOR ARISTOCRAT ARETAN LINE" (5 % of capacity, 5 project units)

    These are all unique, one of a kind products, and they are expensive.
    • Aretanian Guard Superb Quality Helmets and Mail Coats for 50 Elite Personal Bodyguard (1 project unit)
    • Aretanian Superb Religious Mass Service, with bells,
    • Aretanian Superb Kitchen Set, with huge boilers, pots, pans, sharpest knives and dining sets for 200 guests
    • Aretanian Superb Hunting Set, with saddles for both elephants and horses for an entire hunting party of 50 guests. Also includes boilers and cutters for hunted game. 1 project unit
    • Aretanian Superb Semaphore Line Network of 5 towers with great mirrors that can transmit coded signals over 100 miles distance in 1 hour. 1 project unit
    SEMAPHORE LINE

    * At least 5 full-time operators
    * Operates at most ten hours a day.
    * Sends roughly 2 words per minute (1 symbol per minute, at 2 symbols per phrase, using the efficient directors' codebook).


    7- HIM-CORP "SUPERIOR REGAL CYCLONIAN LINE" (5 % of capacity, 5 project units)

    Each unique item costs 1 product unit each

    These are all unique, one of a kind products, and they are expensive.

    • Cyclonian superb regal ship clock, enormous ship clock you can hear at 30 miles distance through fog, rain, storm and darkness
    • Cyclonian superb regal ships plating, makes your ship more resistant to ramming, artillery and grappling
    • Cyclonian superb regal water-pump, a water-pump you can customize to most uses, but once fixed in location, cannot be changed
    • Cyclonian superb regal astronomic telescope
    • Cyclonian superb regal astrolobe mechanism (Great for astronomy, watching the stars)
     
  2. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    Price Manager, please try to price these things, I made sure there are limited supply on bigger projects, knowing we are 11 million people, with a rich economy and 2 iron sources.
     
  3. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    Please also add product requests here, but these will only be enacted on the basis of available techs and beginning after the next turnchat.
     
  4. Vandal Warlord

    Vandal Warlord Nazgûl

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    Katana- Price 35 Y
    Spear- Price: 25 Y
    Bow and Arrow- Price TBD Y
    Dual Sai Set- Price 35 Y
    Lance and Shield- Price: 50 Y

    2 HIM-CORP ARMOR (20 % of capacity)
    Samurais Chainmail- Price 150 Y
    Knights Full Plate- Price 210 Y
    Pikemans Tower Shield- Price 100 Y
    Saddle and Spurs (Jointly made of iron and boarskin)- Price 25 Y
    Infantrymans studded mail (iron and pigskin)- Price 35 Y

    3. HIM-CORP MINING AND FARMING EQUIPMENT (20 % of capacity, 20 workforces)

    1 000 Iron Picks for Mining workforce (Mining sensitive)- 5000 Y
    1 000 Iron Axes for Lumbering workforce (Lumbering sensitive)- 5000 Y
    1 000 Iron Ploughshears for Farmer workforce (Farming sensitive)- Y
    1 000 Iron Manacles for Slaver workforce (Slaving sensitive)- 6000 Y
    1 00 Iron Hammers and Anvils for smithies (CIty building sensitive)- 10000 Y

    4. HIM-CORP CASTLE AND DUNGEONS (20 % of capacity, 20 project units)

    100 Iron Man Cages 2 project units- 2500 Y
    100 Iron-plated Doors 2 project units- 1500 Y
    Castle gate with iron girder and iron chains and stretcher 4 project units- 2500 Y
    Safe room with complete iron plating 2 project units- 600 Y
    Complete torture room with iron maiden and assorted instruments 1 project unit- 2500 Y

    5. HIM-CORP ENGINES AND INFRASTRUCTURE (40 % of capacity, 40 project units)

    Iron Chains, iron levers, iron engines and enough iron nails for a 100 hammer
    Construction Firm (5 project unit cost)- 1200 Y

    Iron Anvils, Iron Hammers, Iron Forges, Iron Blast Ovens, Iron Reels and so on, all needed for a 2000 gold Manufacturing firm (8 project unit cost)- 1200 Y


    Enough Iron nails, tools, trappings, lifts and so on needed to operate your own port (10 project units)- 1000 Y


    Enough Iron rails, iron cars, silting mechanisms, shovels and picks needed to operate a mine in the hills (10 project units)- 1500 Y

    Enough Iron Engines and mechanisms needed to help build your own modern castle or palace (30 project units)- 5000 Y



    6. HIM-CORP "SUPERIOR ARISTOCRAT ARETAN LINE" (5 % of capacity, 5 project units)

    These are all unique, one of a kind products, and they are expensive.

    Aretanian Guard Superb Quality Helmets and Mail Coats for 50 Elite Personal Bodyguard (1 project unit)- 500 Y

    Aretanian Superb Religious Mass Service, with bells,- 1000 Y

    Aretanian Superb Kitchen Set, with huge boilers, pots, pans, sharpest knives and dining sets for 200 guests- 1160 Y

    Aretanian Superb Hunting Set, with saddles for both elephants and horses for an entire hunting party of 50 guests. Also includes boilers and cutters for hunted game. 1 project unit- 1000 Y

    Aretanian Superb Semaphore Line Network of 5 towers with great mirrors that can transmit coded signals over 100 miles distance in 1 hour. 1 project unit- 10000 Y


    SEMAPHORE LINE

    * At least 5 full-time operators
    * Operates at most ten hours a day.
    * Sends roughly 2 words per minute (1 symbol per minute, at 2 symbols per phrase, using the efficient directors' codebook).


    7- HIM-CORP "SUPERIOR REGAL CYCLONIAN LINE" (5 % of capacity, 5 project units)

    Cyclonian superb regal ship clock, enormous ship clock you can hear at 30 miles distance through fog, rain, storm and darkness
    Price: 2000 Y

    Cyclonian superb regal ships plating, makes your ship more resistant to ramming, artillery and grappling
    Price: 2100 Y

    Cyclonian superb regal water-pump, a water-pump you can customize to most uses, but once fixed in location, cannot be changed
    Price: 2000 Y

    Cyclonian superb regal astronomic telescope
    Price: 1700 Y

    Cyclonian superb regal astrolobe mechanism (Great for astronomy, watching the stars)
    Price: 2000 Y


    Provo, (and or Lord Civius) If you wish to change the Price of these Items please PM.

    Item Manager Action- Item Price Approved
     
  5. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    All good prices, I designed the products to make for great roleplay. As we are here to have fun, not to get "abstract-rich" :)

    How many gold goes into a Yenarii ? I would just like to make sure that the industrial business part is representative and on level with the consumer business part. The reason I am asking, is that it took a full 2000 gold to set up the company (had to ask for external funding).

    If the prices are for what we already have got, we really need to revise some, as our houses are worth 1000 gold each, and a full tile of land is 100 to 1000 gold each.
     
  6. Lord Civius

    Lord Civius Emperor

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    The Grant for a tile of land is 100-1000 gold. It is the Kings land not the Grantees. These are also wholesale values and that is 50% of resale value so they are a very high. Pretty much my fault as I should have appraised Poverty's pub items much lower. We have done little purchasing so it is still early enough tp fix the problem.

    Vandal I will take over for a few days and straighten out the mess I handed to you. I assure you when its back in your hands all ducks will be in a row.
     
  7. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    I wait for the inflated consumer prices to be deflated, and give a more accurate picture about the pricing. A good mental exercise for the pricing would be how many simple beers would you have to give for a moderately sized townhouse (stone building, 2 stories, basement, about 200-300 square yards living space).

    I would say 500 000 to a million beers, to be honest, 100 000 beers at the very minimum.
     
  8. Vandal Warlord

    Vandal Warlord Nazgûl

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    Sorry Lord Civius, had a hard time prcing these Items. I was trying to make sure I didn't rob Provolution blind.
     
  9. Lord Civius

    Lord Civius Emperor

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    That is not possible as we only have roughly 20,000 Y in the whole game, including the RPG Market. A beer at the bar is roughly $5 (post gratuity) in Florida where I live. A house (fitting your description) in the same area is $200,000 (after adjusting for the lack of a basement). So your beers to house ratio puts us at about 40,000 to 1 or .5 Y per beer. So the simplest way out of this jam is to introduce the decimal system.
     
  10. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    Florida houses are cheap cardboard houses, I am talking about a nice European townhouse made of craftsmanship, not some pensioners paper-wall resort.
     
  11. Diamondeye

    Diamondeye So Happy I Could Die

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    Haha this thread went into something completely different fast :lol:

    Anyway, Provoshogun, are any of your shares in HIM for sale? I would like to buy 15%, that way, you can still have majority on your own ;)
     
  12. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    Dear Mr Diamondeye

    The Administration in HIM has no intention to sell equity stock at this point in the company history. Company bylaws requires 67 % majority to change statutes, and I own 70 %.
    As the company grows in size and complexity, I intend to sell Provoshoguns share down to 51 % (selling 19 % out), but that will be after some time. Remember, we are not even near the ceiling market for this booming corporation.
     
  13. Lord Civius

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    Hey there partner, I build houses in florida . A 900 sq ft, very small for american, house in the susburbs, block, with top of the line tradesmen/craftsmen and material runs about $300 a foot to build (normal house is about 95-150) . Thats $270,000. We are getting off subject so I'll digress.

    This discussion is about fixing a potential time-bomb for the economy early while we still can. So for the sake of argument lets just go with my figures so we don't have to commandeer Ices Copper to make a bronze coin. If the poverty's Pub readjusts a beer to .5 Y (a Half Pence?) then we use that as a guide when appraising new items then the system is workable IMO. Thats 2000 beers for a modest house in basic mideival economy and living standards. Might not be perfect but its definately doable.
     
  14. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    I think the beverages should go from 0.2 for the simplest beers up to 10 for the most extraordinary and superb liquor or champagne.
     
  15. Lord Civius

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    How about .25 Y (quarter pence). OK I'll readjust PP's pricelist and work on yours. I'll post all these quotes in the RPG questions thread so we can continue any further discussion there. I'll have to do this later on when I get home.
     
  16. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    What happens to the repricing?
     
  17. Diamondeye

    Diamondeye So Happy I Could Die

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    Once the prices are up, I would like to purchase 2 katanas.
     
  18. thecommonnate

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    Provo, I'd like to offer something along the lines of Jeweled Katanas, but I'm not clear on how it works.

    I'm thinking I could simply sell you whatever kind of gems for say 5 Jeweled Katanas, and then you sell them. I may have to open some kind of company or buy a license, but my offer stands even if that is the case.
     
  19. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    TNC, sounds like a plan, PM me an offer, and we work something out behind the scenes.
     
  20. Lord Civius

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    I will approve this list and let the market do its work. If something is too high then it will simply not sell.

    Before you can use the gems in the market you must acquire a manufacturing company for the Gems.
     

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