So over in this thread: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/power-ranking-the-civs-gathering-storm.642590/ folks been talking about relative civ powers with the new expansion, and that got me thinking. Back in Vanilla, it was pretty obvious that Gilgamesh was the king. His abilities were so OP with that early war cart rush and the crazy ability to farm barb camps for goody hut rewards ALL GAME LONG. And of course those ziggurats were nice to put on tiles you weren't gonna use for anything else. Extra science is never bad. Strong alliances too. Now with GS and the arrival of the Maori (the new OP civ on the block), I'm wondering how these 2 civs would stack up against each other specifically? Maori have the most flexible start ever made. They also have really OP Toas, bonus production and culture and faith. Given their flexiblity they're likely to get first envoy to a lot of city states, giving them some nice bonuses in the early game. So I'm wondering if people have enough experience with these 2 against each other to say who's actually on top now? I know different kinds of maps will play a big part. Put Kupe on an island plates map and he might have the upper hand. Stick them both on a low-sea-level pangea map and it could go to Gilgamesh. But I'm really curious to see how they stack up, particularly in multiplayer. The AI won't be able to do them justice, so how would human players compare them?