Has the Republican party imploded, and can it stop a demographical meltdown?

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2008 was surely a horrible year for the GOP as many of you already know. Losing the presidency, horrible losses in the House and Senate, the Republican "brand" is now severely tarnished.

In theory, the Republicans can still come back. Thought it seems unimaginable at the time, with Obama being probably the most exciting president since Reagan, while George W. Bush is the most hated man in the world, as time goes on Obama's popularity will decline and people will start to forget about W. The Republicans have been damaged worse than this earlier in our history so it's not going to be a surprise if the GOP will show signs of resurgence.

The ruling party inevitable faces disillusionment, and it's a consistent trend that the presiding party starts to lose popularity after its peak. At the moment, current opinion polling shows that the Republicans are scheduled to lose even more senate and house seats in 2010, though I feel it's too early to make any reasonable predictions.

Has the Republican party imploded? In a way, yes. The Reagan coalition has been broken. The coalition between religious conservatives and free market entrepreneurs is severely strained and the Dems are making major inroads with the evangelicals. The American public has rejected hawkish foreign policy and now believes Bush is to blame for the economic crisis. However, this isn't a big deal: the party has gone through much worse times. Eventually, the GOP will recover.. or will it?

The biggest threat to the GOP isn't Obama, Pelosi, or Al Franken. It's demographics. If the demographic trends of 2000 were the same as they were in 2008, McCain would have been president [source needed].

The United States, in the past solidly a white nation, is slowly but surely becoming multicultural. In our lifetimes we will see whites cease to be a majority in the United States.

This is good for the Democrats, who have in recent history made great inroads with minority communities. The party has always been targeted towards the working classes and it was only a matter of time until it took away the black vote from the Republicans, not to mention almost every other minority group aside from Cuban exiles.

The Republican approach to minority politics has always been through social issues, as many minorities hold reactionary views that fit with the Republican mold. However, one big problem for the Republicans is that minorities happen to hate white people and wealthy people in general, something that the GOP has always been known for.

Can the GOP rebrand? How can Republicans win more minority voters? If it can't, the GOP as we know it is going to cease to exist anymore.

There is some hope on the horizon for the Republicans, namely in politicians like Joseph Cao and Bobby Jindal. I can see the Republican coalition work aggressively to absorb the growing Asian and East Indian communities, which would fit in with many of the GOP core work-ethic and social beliefs.

However, would a such a coalition ever be able to overcome the growing communities of black, and more namely, latino voting groups that are almost locked up for the Democrats?
 
I personally wouldn't be sorry if the Republican party goes down. Conservatism needs to be completely taken apart and built back up again in this country. It's one of the many reasons I'm glad Obama won the election.
 
In Canada( more multicultural than the US) the conservative Party has recently done better in high immigrant areas then has the Liberal or NDP(socialist) party. I don't think ethnicity or cosmopolitanism is contrary to conservatism.
 
Republican's need to cut off the religious fundamentalists and neo-con's in their party and go back to their roots. Orignal conservatism so to speak. Let the fundies and neocons form their own freakish third party if they want.
 
I don't feel that they have "hit bottom" to the point where they are forced to realize that a 12 Step Program is their only hope of survival. But I think the day is coming.

Mid term Congressional elections mostly favor the party that's out of power. If the Republicans pick up a few seats in 2010 then that will convince them for a while longer that they aren't on the wrong track.

It will take repeated crushings in elections to get the message across.
 
In Canada( more multicultural than the US) the conservative Party has recently done better in high immigrant areas then has the Liberal or NDP(socialist) party. I don't think ethnicity or cosmopolitanism is contrary to conservatism.

One could argue that Canadian politics is a lot different than American politics and that your brand of conservatism isn't the same as American conservatism, in the sense that it's not as extreme and right wing. Doesn't the Canadian conservative party support the socialized medicine?
 
Republican's need to cut off the religious fundamentalists and neo-con's in their party and go back to their roots. Orignal conservatism so to speak. Let the fundies and neocons form their own freakish third party if they want.

Describe the roots of the Republican party. It's without classical liberals and Christians?

The repubs don't need to cut the base, they need to focus on attracting the centre. Why they seemed to be so focused on sycophantically playing to their most partisan supporters is beyond my mind. They are only a couple of years away from shifting back to success, that is, if they kill Palin and quit watching Top Gun.

One could argue that Canadian politics is a lot different than American politics and that your brand of conservatism isn't the same as American conservatism, in the sense that it's not as extreme and right wing. Doesn't the Canadian conservative party support the socialized medicine?

Only because it would be political suicide not to. Our current tory Prime minister campaigned in his early career to get rid of it. The party itself is mostly comparable to the Republican party, but the country and its culture and institutions are not. Thus conservatism is watered down.
 
One only has to consider that a few years ago the same sorts of fears were circling through the Democratic party. As sad as this may seem, the only thing the GOP needs to regain popularity is for the Democrats to screw up. And you can bet that will happen eventually.

Good point though about reaching out to ethnic minorities. It needs to happen.

~Chris
 
What happened to the calls in 2004 that the Democrats were finished because they were aborting their future votes away?
 
What newspaper was this in? I feel like I read it a month ago in the New York Times, but I can't be sure.

Of course, papers called the end of the Democratic Party in 2004. Every election is supposed to spell the end of the losing party, and it just never happens that way...

The Republican Party isn't going anywhere, as long as someone steps up to play the role of constructive opposition. Luckily, history seems to hint that that happens every administration.
 
What happened to the calls in 2004 that the Democrats were finished because they were aborting their future votes away?

While abortion rates are higher for minorities, minorities still have higher birth rates than whites. Thus, yes, they are aborting future votes away but they are still having a net increase.
 
it is practically impossible for one party to collapse in a two party system. Does anyone know of an example of it happening before, where that same party didn't just reincarnate itself under a new name?
 
it is practically impossible for one party to collapse in a two party system. Does anyone know of an example of it happening before, where that same party didn't just reincarnate itself under a new name?
I'm not implying that the GOP will just cease to exist, and you're right about a two party system making it impossible for a collapse, but the Republican party can fade away into a permanent minority party, irrelevant and always out of power, much like the Democrats were after the Civil War until FDR was elected.
 
One could argue that Canadian politics is a lot different than American politics and that your brand of conservatism isn't the same as American conservatism, in the sense that it's not as extreme and right wing. Doesn't the Canadian conservative party support the socialized medicine?

There are many brands of conservatism in Canada. The governing Conservative Party of Canada is the latest one, created in 2003, and comprised largely of pragmatic politicians from the far-right and center-right. In provincial politics you find the older forms of conservatism like the ruling Progressive Conservatives in Alberta. They're the most right-wing conservatives in Canada and they've dramatically increased the amount of private clinics in Alberta.
 
What happened to the calls in 2004 that the Democrats were finished because they were aborting their future votes away?

Demographics still favor the Dems. As the country becomes more urban (or at least extended metropolitan area), the most conservative values tend to have less of a hold. That and the county is progressively less white, and the Republicans have pretty thoroughly alienated most of the people of color, is not a good trend for them.

As sonorakitch mentioned, if the Republicans do not find a way to appeal to people who aren't white, they are going to pay a heavy price.

That said, the Republican party is not going to cease to exist. And the Democrats will eventually screw up. It's in their nature. But the Republicans could put themselves into Siberia for a good long period of time.
 
Get rid of the religious zealots, culture warriors and warmongering fools, and you'd have a decent party.
 
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