Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Lohrenswald, Dec 26, 2016.
You're not supposed to feel pride in anything.
That's a pretty nonsensical statement First off, who says you're not supposed to feel pride in anything? You present it as if it was a universal truth, while if anything this statement seems really controversial.
Furthermore, what's wrong with feeling pride? Emotions are typically not something we have control over: I cannot control whether I feel sad when a relative dies or happy when I win the lottery. I can however control how I handle it: Pride is one thing, boasting about pride or arrogance another. Saying one is not supposed to feel pride in anything is indirectly saying one should suppress positive emotion (for no valid reason).
I would agree with you had you said: You're not supposed to feel pride for things you have no control over: One's heritage, race, inherited wealth, genetics and so forth. That, to me, makes sense. But your general statement doesn't
I don't agree with this statement, either. This is almost Benedictine in its extremism. We're not supposed to loathe ourselves. Maybe it's best described in a manner of degree. There's pride in yourself, a healthy self image, and then there's PRIDE, or narcissism that sets you, in your mind, above others.
This same comparison applies to "judging". We all make decisions, we all make comparisons, and we all decide what we want near us, close in our personal circle. That is part of what defines us as individuals, and there's categorically no reason to stop doing that, it would result in harm to self, ignoring better judgement. We are not to act like holy judges, though, we are not to condemn, to judge that a person lacks the right to make his/her own decisions for his/her own circle. Of course the complication in this is obviously capital punishment, and I do not envy people who are placed in the position to make those decisions.
I'd double down, and say you aren't supposed to feel ANYTHING
If I was able to never feel pride, I'd feel pride in that.
Wish I'd made these two posts instead of mine!
I generally don't feel well when i do something that (seems to, or reasonably can be argued to) impresses others. For example in one of my library lectures on philosophy, i once was speaking for 1,5 hours and everything was flawless (it usually isn't, for a number of reasons). The crowd was more than 40 people too, the entire large room there...
Afterwards i mostly felt alienated. I suppose it is due to not wanting to be very outward anyway. It isn't about modesty.
It's something I keep being told over and over again. Pride is the ultimate form of selfishness and many of the problems in the world today are caused by pride.
Pride is indeed often one of the most destructive elements of our psyche but there are several kinds of it and some are quite harmless and even desirable...
I am quite full of pride so everything I do....
Disagree on the first part, agree on the second part. "Pride" in a modern sense replaces the more ancient or medieval "honor", in my opinion. Often times "for honor" was just synonymous with "for bloodshed!".
Our ancestors who didn't feel pride didn't make it this far, so I'm gonna stick with feeling proud.
I think people should only feel proud if they are gay, tbh
Thats seems to be correct only in some specific usage. Being proud for doing or being something is more often then not sign of stupidity just like 1000 years ago.
I contend its the humblest who made it further:
How lucky you would be to nail the right humble if never informed by pride.
I haven't. I'm not sure I'm capable of feeling pride.
That isn't to say that I'm humble, as I'm not. Just excessively self-deprecating. Nothing I do is good enough. If I save one person, I could have saved two. If I save two, I could have saved three.
And so it goes.
Sounds like you're proud of your humility, Vincour.
I'm not humble so I'm not sure how I could be proud of a lie. Maybe if it were an expertly crafted one.
Thats sounds like some reverse form of something (pride perhaps?)- why else you would feel that way? Just break the circle. You are the boss. Not your emotions or opinions just like those of others...
Keep a journal.
Separate names with a comma.