Have you served in the military?

Military service is mandatory in Brazil, though most people who don't want it manage to avoid it. When I enlisted I didn't really want to serve, but they kept calling me back so I figured they wanted me. To avoid ending up somewhere bad I managed to enlist on the CPOR (somthing like Center of Training for Reserve Officers), which is only open for people in college or approved for college, which was my case.

I served in the Field Artillery of Rio's CPOR, and am a Lieutenant of the Brazilian Army now (Reserve). I have been since I was 18, it was weird (but rather fun) to boss around people more than twice my age.

Anyway, since I'm an officer, if the countries of the members of CFC ever go to war as allies, I'd be bossing around most people in this thread too. :p ;)

Edit: And before anyone asks, it was the brazilian army, so it's not like I had to kill anyone.
 
Anyway, since I'm an officer, if the countries of the members of CFC ever go to war as allies, I'd be bossing around most people in this thread too. :p ;)

Command wouldn't work like that.
 
No, it is lame. You stand a better chance of being struck by lightning than dying in Iraq, and that is in COMBAT ARMS. If you take a remf job, or a remf service, you stand a .00000001% chance of dying in Iraq.
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That be Mobboss (REMF) I suggested to John to get into a CA unit instead if he wanted to serve in a non-combat role (well semi combat as all CA units are armed and have military escorts)
 
I kinda take issue with this.

Anecdotal here.
My battalion went to the mojave for about a month for some training.
About two weeks into the exercise some people came around and set up showers for us to use. Yes, showers after two weeks of living in the sand made a big difference.
Some of my fellow grunts were giving the shower dudes a hard time. Calling them "Towel boy" and stuff.
I was just glad to have a shower.

My point is the REMF'S are just as important as the grunts,

1. We didn't get any showers. We got to stay under cement cover for a couple days at the end.

2. REMFs don't die.

ps. I recieved a 4th Infantry Division coin from their commander, personally, because I killed so many of their tanks.
 
You also stand a better chance of being struck by lightning than by a terrorist's attack.

So, if you want to serve your country, don't join the army, go work in a hospital, the police, the firebrigade, education, etc, etc.
 
Military service is mandatory in Brazil, though most people who don't want it manage to avoid it. When I enlisted I didn't really want to server, but they kept calling me back so I figured they wanted me. To avoid ending up somewhere bad I managed to enlist on the CPOR (somthing like Center of Training for Reserve Officers), which is only open for people in college or approved for college, which was my case.

I served in the Field Artillery of Rio's CPOR, and am a Lieutenant of the Brazilian Army now (Reserve). I have been since I was 18, it was weird (but rather fun) to boss around people more than twice my age.

Anyway, since I'm an officer, if the countries of the members of CFC ever go to war as allies, I'd be bossing around most people in this thread too. :p ;)

Edit: And before anyone asks, it was the brazilian army, so it's not like I had to kill anyone.

We should check and see who the most senior military person is on CFC. I know Patroklos outranks both of us. :lol:
 
Currently NCdt in the Canadian navy (reserve), will make SLt about a year from now when I've finished school and can do my proper training. But I'm a non-combat MOS, so I'll never see higher than Lt(N) unless I can get into medical school.
 
Someone asked me about being a paratrooper via PM and I took some time to answer. I thought I would share it with the rest of you:



Well, there is some time you spend as a "noob", just like anything else. The hazing has been drastically curbed in recent years. A guy in another battalian was painted red (we called noobs "cherries" because their berets have no unit crest while they are in the placement center). He nearly died and we were then not allowed to even call them cherries anymore.

Best experiences

Jumping from an airplane at night in fog with 0 visibility (and the other 20+ jumps I have).

Shooting every kind of gun and missile available to infantry alot (the 82nd gets more funding for training).

The friends. When your lives depend on each other, you get pretty tight.

Being independant. I paid my own bills, spent my own money and made my own decisions. It was a nice change from private university supported by my parents.

Getting into good physical shape.

Running around with friends to bars and getting laid because townies l0ve army guys (females, heh, the males are not so thrilled). We have a steady paycheck and a promising career complete with amazing benefits.

Recieving my GI Bill/College fund to complete my BA and get an MSc, instead of relying entirely on my parents.

Mission

We train harder than most infantry units, but our missions are rather specialized. Our most common mission is to take and secure an airfield so that the rest of the army can come in.

One motto: "18hours, anywhere in the world, fight on arrival" gives an idea of our purpose as well.

Our year is divided into three parts (equally, as we have 3 brigades):

1) Training. We spend most of this time in the field conducting exercises.

2) Garrison. We spend most of this time in the barracks while we repair our gear and get our stuff into inspection condition... rooms, humvees (if you are Delta Company), weapons, motor pool, etc.

3) Alert. With our gear at inspection quality, we spend most of this time in garrison, only going to the field for short, non-equipment-damaging exercises. This phase is divided into three parts, DRF 1, DRF 2 and DRF 3 (the numbers are higher during the other phases). DRF = defense ready force. The DRF number times 2 is the number of hours that you have to get in formation with your gear after battalian is notified of a "call-out" (mission go). For instance, on DRF1, you have 2 hours to be in formation from time of call-out. Once, I was in a small town north of Fayetteville (the city around Ft. Bragg) and we didn't call in to check for a call-out when we passed out. We woke up and called... we were lucky we had not missed a call-out, but we had only 45mins to make formation. We got in my (convertable) mustang GT and hit 100mph on the highway to base. We got pulled over and told the cop we were on DRF1 and got called out and had 30mins to get to formation. He checked with base and then escorted us with lights.

While mine were all training, you never know when a call-out is real (or fake) until you get to 'green-ramp' (where we assemble to board the planes) and they tell you to dump your ruck and fill it with ammo. Forget the food, forget the change of cloths and forget the other stuff... just ammo.

If there is a fight, there will be paratroopers behind enemy lines (disrupting supply lines, capturing an airfield, or something else...).

Further, regarding the mission:

The Rule of LGOPs

After the demise of the best Airborne plan, a most terrifying effect occurs on the battlefield. This effect is known as the rule of the LGOPs. This is, in its purest form, small groups of pissed-off 19 year old American paratroopers. They are well trained. They are armed to the teeth and lack serious adult supervision. They collectively remember the Commander's intent as "March to the sound of the guns and kill anyone who is not dressed like you" - or something like that.


Airborne. All the Way. Let's Go!
 
we are all so impressed,lol
 
^^ Why are you in this thread? In case you didn't notice, it's about being in the military. If you don't want to hear stuff about the military, perhaps you should spam another thread.

Posted By Mowque
nope, too catholic for that

Posted By Mowque
Trying to get into the military is one of the few times writing "I'd like to kill people' on your resume is a good idea...

Posted By Mowque
we are all so impressed,lol

Noone answered your other trolls, so now you want to get personal?

Why do you hate the military? Did your daddy die? As long as people suffer under tyranny, every american family should sacrifice a member for world freedom. If you don't think that is the US mission, of all patriots, then you need to grow up.

I think I'll listen to my sig again.
 
As long as people suffer under tyranny, every american family should sacrifice a member for world freedom. If you don't think that is the US mission, of all patriots, then you need to grow up.

This sentence makes me laugh!

But back to the topic.
I myself did my time in the Artillery, shooting and driving the Haubits.

The part I hated the most, was the cleaning of that thing, after being in the fields.

I dont think I ever will be called back to the army again, since the regiment I was stationed at, doesnt exist anymore. Which is sad, because it had a long history (fighting against Napoleon in couple of battles and more).
 
You don't think the US is attempting to bring world freedom? All US politics are geared towards that end. Why do you think it is funny? Because your little country is not capable of such grand endeavors?

It's ok, we'll let you help.

"The US just wants to make a dollar!" might be how you think, but we are not all like that. Some of us are patriots and we know what is important.

There should be one thread for conscripts and one thread for soldiers (and conscripts who would have volunteered). The two might both count as 'being in the military', but are vastly different.

It's kinda funny when a conscript mocks a soldier's patriotism, as if they are somehow equals.
 
Why do you hate the military? Did your daddy die? As long as people suffer under tyranny, every american family should sacrifice a member for world freedom. If you don't think that is the US mission, of all patriots, then you need to grow up.

But oftentimes, our intervention doesn't help. And oftentimes, we need to let democracy and freedom develop naturally. No one is fit to build a nation but the people of that nation.
 
You don't think the US is attempting to bring world freedom?
Hihi, another funny sentence.

Forcing a country to embrace your own way of life and thinking is not giving them freedom. Where is it said, that western democracy is the best way for all countries in the world?

But this is not the thread to discuss this.

And by the way, the thread is called "Have you served in the military?" and this includes people who served as conscripts, volunteered or have it as a form of work. If this is not good enough, you should start a new thread for that.
 
I am so happy that I´ve been in the german army as a Panzerjäger (Tank hunter) between the the cold war and the Yugoslavia war.
So there were no enemies and nothing to be afraid of.
 
No, that's true. Conscripts (excepting those who would have volunteered anyway) are not the equals of volunteers. And certainly not in the patriotism department.

It's not trolling if it's true.

Look at any war between freemen and conscripts. Hell, look at the battles. Conscripts perform pitifully. The only reason Europe can depend on them is because of the volunteers on the other side of the pond. Some european countries don't rely on forced service, right?
 
No, that's true. Conscripts (excepting those who would have volunteered anyway) are not the equals of volunteers. And certainly not in the patriotism department.

It's not trolling if it's true.
That's what I said. It's trolling.

You can't tell someone's patriotism this way. You might argue that volunteers in general have a bigger hard on for nationalism. But if you think they are anything but equal, you be trolling.

"It's kinda funny when a conscript mocks a soldier's patriotism, as if they are somehow equals."

They are very much equals. You don't have to be an equalist to see that.

There can be good reason to mock a soldier's patriotism. Just being a soldier does not make one immune to that. Or are you also suggesting that a conscript by definition can't be as, or more patriotic than a soldier and a soldier by definition is above criticism?

Is that delusional Elitism I smell?
 
That's what I said. It's trolling.

You can't tell someone's patriotism this way. You might argue that volunteers in general have a bigger hard on for nationalism. But if you think they are anything but equal, you be trolling.
You can keep saying that, but it is not. It's just opinion on military service.
They are very much equals. You don't have to be an equalist to see that.
I'm pretty sure that is copyright infringement.
There can be good reason to mock a soldier's patriotism. Just being a soldier does not make one immune to that.
It was not mocked, it was called fake. As if the US military mission is not to defend all free men and liberate those who are not. Just give us the go, we cannot wait.
Or are you also suggesting that a conscript by definition can't be as, or more patriotic than a soldier and a soldier by definition is above criticism?
Many a time I noted those who are conscripts but would have volunteered or at least served willingly (the only "time" you do is during war, as noone really wants to kill others). Why do you steal words from of my posts? You saw me make the exception many times and now you pretend there was no such qualification?
Is that delusional Elitism I smell?
No, volunteers are better than (the vast majority of) conscripts, as far as soldiering goes. That's factual elitism. If you could choose your army, conscripts or volunteers, which would you choose? But the world mocks our patriotism/nationalism while they pretend to rely on their own cheap and ineffectual 2nd rate soldiers.

What kind of country forces people to die in their wars??

Most of you euros should be ashamed. I don't know how you can show your faces in this thread.
Spoiler :
Just kidding the last two sentences :D
 
Most armies that have conscription (if not all), are based on defending their country, not as a invading force.

In the case of countries with conscription, that will send millitary or civilian people for UN or EU, it will be paid/hired soilders, not conscript soilders.
 
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