Has anyone else noticed that most leaders seem to appear from nearly dead units? Seems more leaders appear on the defense from a 1 hitpoint unit. And then proceed to get gacked when the next unit attacks and kills it. I would say this happens with better than half of the leaders I ever see- kind of irritating to see them and so rarely have them survive to be used.
He Was a Great Leader...For 20 Seconds
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dutch-legionary
Chieftain
interesting idea.
I have been playing for several weeks now. I got 4 leaders, 2 of them were instantly killed, because the elite unit had almost no hitpoints.
But it can be coicidence, since your unit normally loses hitpoints when attacking.
I have been playing for several weeks now. I got 4 leaders, 2 of them were instantly killed, because the elite unit had almost no hitpoints.
But it can be coicidence, since your unit normally loses hitpoints when attacking.
zebomba
Warlord
I've never got leaders defending. OTOH, I've got 6 or 7 on a small islands normal map just bc I was attacking all the time. Getting leaders attacking is way better bc you retreat them safely.
Being the Japs or Aztecs is like having a leader farm :crazyeyes
Being the Japs or Aztecs is like having a leader farm :crazyeyes
Well, I was meaning leaders appearing when on the defensive, seems that's when I usually see them, when fending off a computer horde with just a couple of units. I'd say I get most of my leaders when defending, so I don't get the chance to move them away.
FullofHoles
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Psychlone:
In order to get leaders on offense, you may need to take a different strategy regarding using elite units. I use elite units exclusively to make easy kills. This means that the majority of my elites are offense-capable units. Veteran units are the real backbone of an attack. Any attack that might fail, I use veterans for. Elite units should only be used when there is little danger of failure. In this way, I keep large "stables" of elite units and am able to make lots of elite-unit attacks, thereby having a lot of chances to get great leaders.
A side note: In my opinion, great leaders are very important in the earlier ages, but become downright unimportant once the modern ages start. Shield production levels become so great in modern times that even wonders of the world are quick affairs to build by conventional means.
I currently have a great leader that I have no use whatsoever for. Late-industrial ages, my society is mobilized (so I am limited to building military things,) I have two towns that can churn out a tank every single turn and my offense is sweeping forward too quickly for an army to be of much use... my great leader is standing around twiddling his thumbs.
In order to get leaders on offense, you may need to take a different strategy regarding using elite units. I use elite units exclusively to make easy kills. This means that the majority of my elites are offense-capable units. Veteran units are the real backbone of an attack. Any attack that might fail, I use veterans for. Elite units should only be used when there is little danger of failure. In this way, I keep large "stables" of elite units and am able to make lots of elite-unit attacks, thereby having a lot of chances to get great leaders.
A side note: In my opinion, great leaders are very important in the earlier ages, but become downright unimportant once the modern ages start. Shield production levels become so great in modern times that even wonders of the world are quick affairs to build by conventional means.
I currently have a great leader that I have no use whatsoever for. Late-industrial ages, my society is mobilized (so I am limited to building military things,) I have two towns that can churn out a tank every single turn and my offense is sweeping forward too quickly for an army to be of much use... my great leader is standing around twiddling his thumbs.
Never got any leader killed, and I got at least 8 that I can remember, but only 1 on the defense. Some cavalry attacking Panzers... All the Cavalry are belong to dead now 
And my panzer still had 3-4 hitpoints left after 3 cavs attacked (last one giving leader, or before the last one)
So, the thought that leaders alwatys appear with units with 1 hp left who instantly get killed is just, like many things, circumstantial evidence 
And my panzer still had 3-4 hitpoints left after 3 cavs attacked (last one giving leader, or before the last one)So, the thought that leaders alwatys appear with units with 1 hp left who instantly get killed is just, like many things
, circumstantial evidence Northstar5757
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Never lost a leader either but that's because I always stack my units.
I've got a few leaders defending but it's not often that my defending units are of elite status.
I've got a few leaders defending but it's not often that my defending units are of elite status.
I also never lost a leader before, but i have been worried thinking when the leader appears i lose my unit, too bad if there is one more enemy there to kill.
Touching wood now though, because i never want to lose a leader either.
Touching wood now though, because i never want to lose a leader either.
Panda
Metal head
Originally posted by cutiestar
I also never lost a leader before, but i have been worried thinking when the leader appears i lose my unit, too bad if there is one more enemy there to kill.
You don't loose the elite unit that spawned the leader - the leader simply appears as an adititional unit in the same map square
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