Help Beating Emperor Game 3 Izzy's Revenge

[Silu]

I don't think you need to war right now, most of your improved cities are cottaged so their production isn't that great.

Conqs against a pre-Gunpowder Civ is one of the biggest STRENGTH_OF_TECH_LEAD_MILITARILY / EFFORT_NEEDED_FOR_SAID_TECH_LEAD ratios in the whole game, certainly better than almost any rushbuy based attack I can fathom. I wouldn't pass on the opportunity especially since it's just ~15 cities after which victory is guaranteed. A couple of prod cities + the whip (which can be used liberally) is very much enough prod. Afterwards tech will skyrocket in 50 turns so for now the only tech worry is to get into the winning position - already gained with this setup. For a related game story, in the recent IU-Justinian I basically limped to Steel, had 86 bpt at ~1500 and subsequently 1100 bpt at ~1700 after the winning position was gained. Science doesn't have an absolute value

That's not to say emphasizing economy here would lead to bad results, I just think it will almost definitely result in a more tedious and harder victory.

The question in my mind is whether to aim for economic techs like Democracy/Communism after Conqs or ensure your military triumph by going Steel and/or Rifling next. Both have their pros/cons.

 

[mjg5591]

Played til the end,

I could have chosen many VC here. I decided on space.

Started off the round by killing off Sully with my UU. Was quick and painless. Was going to go after Brennus also, but he got rifles right when I was done killing off Sully. So I decided not to attack him.

Met up with other continent. AC had a vassal, Wang. They had 1 continent. Other continent had Fred. AC was ahead in tech til I got internet. Fred was never a threat.

After taking out Sully, beelined Democracy and ran the bottom line of the civics. Found Mining inc at some point.

Launched with no one even close to launching. I should have gone Domination or conquest. I haven't got one of those Victories yet on Emperor. Maybe next game I post I'll try to go that route.

Screenshots.

Thank you to everyone that helped on this win. I feel like I am learning to beat emperor from these games I have been posting online. Emperor cookbook is really helping also. Anyone prince level to emperor should join the cookbook. Learned alot of information there aswell. I will post another sometime tonight prolly.

Any suggestions on leader or map type? Or maybe just go random leader and fractal map. Any ideas welcome. I need to learn different leaders and traits.

Thanks again everyone,

Mike

 

[Gumbolt]

Thats a nice win!!! You are learning fast and could well be useful in a SGOTM team.

You could try a random leader. Sumerian would be fun with vultures. If you go for a civ with a strong UU try to restrict yourself so you dont walk away with a game.

That being said learning how to do early wars can only help build your game.

 

[mjg5591]

Thats a nice win!!! You are learning fast and could well be useful in a SGOTM team.

You could try a random leader. Sumerian would be fun with vultures. If you go for a civ with a strong UU try to restrict yourself so you dont walk away with a game.

That being said learning how to do early wars can only help build your game.

I just posted game 4. Alex of Greece. Only played greece once. Pericles on the LHC. So seemed like nice draw. Also I need help learning Philo so double bonus.

SGOTM team. What's this? Some type of SG game?

Mike

 

[Gumbolt]

http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=196

Have a look. Number 11 will start in a few weeks. I am hoping to rise from the ashes of the old trash team with a new team.