Hey everyone, I'm wondering what the "break even" point is, in terms of # of cities, for a French liberty opening such that the next city would introduce diminishing returns in terms of the culture produced vs. the increase in social policy cost. I want to take into account representation, the French UA, etc. Basically, I want to know when to stop building cities such that optimal culture/science victories are possible -- i.e., an alternative to full out ICSing. Based on my calculations so far, I'm thinking it is around 7-8, but the math gets a little complicated and I'd like an exact number, preferably. This is for standard speed/map size/Emperor. I had a game last night opening with 6 cities and it was the strongest game I've ever had. Total power house, finishing the liberty tree at turn 66, puppeted two neighbours before turn 100, and spread enhanced Taoism far and wide across my continent within the first 150 or so turns. I want to build on the strategy, as I think I could squeeze in another city or two (or three). Thanks!