Hindus STILL dumping on human rights - literally

[stuge]

I wish we could vote for "the most hilarious thread of the year" here. This one left me with a stomach aching from laughing.

Fun fact: Not a single online dictionary includes the word "memetovirus."

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

No. I will just say that I do not agree with them. There does not exist such a thing as a "real Hindu", by our own definition. Meaning that if you ask a Hindu (any one) to define it, you'll always be able to find a person who doesn't fit his definition , but who he will still grudgingly accept is a "Hindu".

I would say they are using flawed semantics, then. If they have what they claim to be criteria to define a group, then admit that the criteria have no bearing on whether they actually define someone as a member of that group, then their criteria and their labels are useless. Why would they be grudgingly accepting said hypothetical person as Hindu, if they feel they don't meet any of the criteria? Why don't we just go ahead and define all human beings who have ever lived as Hindu?

The mistake you're making is the common one of thinking, "All things we have labelled as religions are essentially the same, and they are all structured like the way we structure ours."

No, the mistake I seem to be making is expecting that you can use a word and still be able to explain what it means.

Do you want a brief explanation of the structure of Indic thought and the Indic intellectual traditions (because this is what you'll need to sensibly continue this discussion further)?

I would, but not from you; I seriously doubt your ability to do so in an honest and straightforward way.

 

[aneeshm]

I would say they are using flawed semantics, then. If they have what they claim to be criteria to define a group, then admit that the criteria have no bearing on whether they actually define someone as a member of that group, then their criteria and their labels are useless. Why would they be grudgingly accepting said hypothetical person as Hindu, if they feel they don't meet any of the criteria? Why don't we just go ahead and define all human beings who have ever lived as Hindu?

Because though they can't explain it, they know one when they see it. A bit like even people who have not been trained in the formal grammar of their language can still identify a grammatical mistake when they see it.

No, the mistake I seem to be making is expecting that you can use a word and still be able to explain what it means.

Addressed in the next part of the same post you're replying to.

I would, but not from you; I seriously doubt your ability to do so in an honest and straightforward way.

The other way is to spend months reading the Wiki, then the original texts, and finally meeting with the relevant people and seeing what it's like on the ground.

Choose.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Because though they can't explain it, they know one when they see it. A bit like even people who have not been trained in the formal grammar of their language can still identify a grammatical mistake when they see it.

Can they, though? People who aren't trained in the formal grammar of their language tend to make a lot of grammatical errors, traditionally.

The other way is to spend months reading the Wiki, then the original texts, and finally meeting with the relevant people and seeing what it's like on the ground.

I am beginning to doubt your claim that Hinduism is somehow inherently more incomprehensible than any other religion. How can I know that your hatred of Islam stems from your ability to comprehend the Western mind?

At any rate, if I did that, at least I could be sure that the answer I get is representative of Hinduism in general and not just one person.

 

[aneeshm]

Can they, though? People who aren't trained in the formal grammar of their language tend to make a lot of grammatical errors, traditionally.

Then it appears that my interactions with people have been restricted to those who have a superior command over the language and the rules of its grammar.

I am beginning to doubt your claim that Hinduism is somehow inherently more incomprehensible than any other religion.

It isn't, the same way that one programming paradigm isn't any more incomprehensible than any other. It's just different, and it takes some time to get used to a new way of thinking.

How can I know that your hatred of Islam stems from your ability to comprehend the Western mind?

This is important - I do not "hate" Islam. I am merely very highly critical of it. The same way I am of absurdities within my own tradition. Or any tradition, or non-tradition, anywhere.

At any rate, if I did that, at least I could be sure that the answer I get is representative of Hinduism in general and not just one person.

Consider me one of the relevant people, then.

 

[shortguy]

No effort at all. I was browsing a social networking site, and person posted this link in the forum there.

You know, that's interesting. I was browsing a popular video game site--maybe you've heard of it--and someone posted a link to this article. I don't suppose it was at all hard to find, either.

 

[Erik Mesoy]

I wish we could vote for "the most hilarious thread of the year" here. This one left me with a stomach aching from laughing.

Fun fact: Not a single online dictionary includes the word "memetovirus."

That's because no dictionary lists all possible agglutinations. Try "meme" with its derivation "memetic", and "virus".

 

[stuge]

Great, thanks. I'll get to it as soon as I figure out what the heck agglutination means.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

He said agglutination, not aglutation. Obviously.

 

[Erik Mesoy]

Agglutination:

1. The act or process of agglutinating; adhesion of distinct parts.
2. A clumped mass of material formed by agglutination. Also called agglutinate.
3. Physiology The clumping together of red blood cells or bacteria, usually in response to a particular antibody.
4. Linguistics The formation of words from morphemes that retain their original forms and meanings with little change during the combination process.

^ Number 4, obviously.