Hinin's Hisatsinom (Ancient Puebloans) for Vox Populi

Hinin · Mar 17, 2022

The Hisatsinom
Download here
(requires Vox Populi 1.4.6 or later)

Leader - Po'Pay

UA - Glyphs of the Fourth World

Starting Units gain +2 :c5moves:

MP and Vision for 5 turns and Military Units within 3 tiles of a Natural Wonder gain +25 % :c5strength:

Combat Strength. +1 :c5science:

Science and :c5faith:

Faith from :c5production:

Production and :c5food:

Food Buildings. Cities act as sources of Fresh Water. Starts with an additional Pathfinder.

UU1 - I:ladanna (replaces Composite Bowman)

Unlocked at Mathematics
90 Production cost

11 :c5strength:

CS / 11

RCS (2 Range)
2 :c5moves:

MP / 2 Vision

Cannot Melee Attack
Offensive malus against Naval Units
Mesa Hunter - Double Movement in Desert and Hill tiles. Can move after Attacking.
Quick Study

UNW – Yupkoyvi (replaces East India Company)

Unlocked at Physics (instead of Guilds)
125 :c5production:

Production cost
:c5production:

Production cost and :c5citizen:

Population requirement increasing with number of Cities (Pop. Requirement lowered)

4 :c5gold:

Gold

+1 Food / Production from Resources worked by the City
+4 Food / Production to Internal Trade Route from this City
+1 Trade Route and +50 % to the Range of Land Trade Routes from the city
+50 Science and Culture whenever an Internal Trade Route to or from this city is completed, scaling with Era

Converts 25 % of the City’s Food output into Gold.

Receive an additionnal copy of all Luxury Resources around this City.
Incoming :trade:

Trade Routes generate +4 :c5gold:

Gold for the City, and +2 :c5gold:

Gold for the Trade Route owner.

-10 % :c5unhappy:

Poverty in all Cities

Spoiler 4UC Compatibility :

Fernando Cellicion : Hopi Lullaby (1993)
Louis Delmar : Chaco Canyon Dreams (2019)
Rawsasquatch (aka Kramer) : Leaderscreen, Map, LeaderIcon, UnitIcons, Unit 3d models (authoritzation obtained for the Pueblo and Blackfoot mods)
starwash : UU1 UnitFlag base
logogroup : UU2 UnitFlag base

Development Credits :

gwennog : Lua, CivIcon, Promotion Icons, help with BuildingIcons, help with corrections
Hinin : Design, Research, SQL, XML, BuildingIcons, Diplomacy and Flavours, Testing

Special Thanks :

Rawsasquatch : graciously accepted that I use assets s/he made for this mod
gwennog : moral support, in addition to several key components of the mod
VP and 4UC teams : inspirations for SQL code

Hinin · Mar 17, 2022

First, some things to say :

First, it is the first civ almost entirely coded by me (with of course some help for gwennog, the ever-helpful, for several importants artistic parts and the lua). I'm trying to explore what can be done while using as little lua as possible (after several civs that were interesting, but a bit too heavy on that front)
Second, to respect the wish of contemporary Puebloans, who didn't want their language to be pronounced in the context of a video game (hence why the Shoshone were introduced in BNW, despite the Pueblos being the first choice of the developpers), this mod has no representation of a Kachina, nor any recording for the DoM speech or musical themes in a language of these communities.
Third, as always, this is a first version, and it surely change in the future, based on your reviews. I hope, nonetheless, that you'll have fun playing this mod.

Gameplay :

Because of the big advantage in term of recon power the UA gives you in the early game, I advise you to remove ancient ruins while you play with this civ. Just don't be surprised if it is a bit too powerful if you don't.
Small problem for V.1 : the unique promotion icons don't show up correctly on Promotion Flags EUI for VP (v.3)
The UU2 (Yalli'iashshiki) currently has no offensive malus against cities. That may be too powerful, so don't hesitate to tell me.

Hinin · Mar 18, 2022

V.2 online :

Numerous small corrections in GameText
Added the Well and the Watermill as Production Buildings affected by the Manikkya'wa

looorg · Mar 19, 2022

The initial vision boost isn't really all that game breaking if the map is just sufficiently large. Yes you get a lot of free xp faster then you would have but it's not that much or to significant, it's probably more of an issue or boost that you get a second pathfinder instantly.

If you have or get a desert start tho it's a bit of a beast of an early power civilization. I managed to build a lot of very early wonders (pyramids, petra, terracotta, hanging gardens and angkor wat). While also holding of a war with the Celts and plonking down seven cities.

You really do want a desert start tho otherwise that whole fresh water thing is somewhat wasted and lost.

The archers takes a bit of getting used to that you can move and shot or shot and move.

Hinin · Apr 15, 2022

V.3 online :
- GameText fixes (don't hesitate to tell me if you find more little mistakes) ;
- For UNW, +1 Food / Production to Resources worked by the city instead of desert tiles (more reliable) ;
- For UB, +1 Culture and +1 Great General point added (may be a bit too good, so don't hesitate to give me a review), in exchange of an additionnal -1 CS to the city compared to the Walls.

Hinin · Apr 15, 2022

looorg said:
If you have or get a desert start tho it's a bit of a beast of an early power civilization. I managed to build a lot of very early wonders (pyramids, petra, terracotta, hanging gardens and angkor wat). While also holding of a war with the Celts and plonking down seven cities.

Happy to know that the civ can be powerful in its own right. It is more meant as a survivalist and scaling civ, but with the good conditions, it can become a reliable power.

looorg said:
You really do want a desert start tho otherwise that whole fresh water thing is somewhat wasted and lost.

You can also use it for the Bath in all your cities and the bonus food for adjacent farms in other biomes.

looorg said:
The archers takes a bit of getting used to that you can move and shot or shot and move.

It is really flexible and once again scales well in the long term, so I didn't want to give it brute combat bonus.

Thanks for the review looorg.

Sidenote : if you are using pineappledan's tweaks, you can insert the following code in the slinger file to make the Hisatsinom compatible (so avoid that their unit stays at 11 CS / RCS and unlocked at Mathematics).

UPDATE Units SET
PrereqTech = 'TECH_CURRENCY',
Combat = 13,
RangedCombat = 14,
Cost = 110,
WHERE Type = 'UNIT_HININ_HISATSINOM_ILADANNA';

Hinin · Apr 18, 2022

V.4 online :
- Fixed a problem that made the UNW associated with the 4UC mod (meaning the civ only had one unique component without it)
- UA : Production to Science conversion nerfed from 15 to 10 %
- UU2 : Combat bonus removed and Combat malus against Cities returned ; +2 Vision granted to the Culling promotion as a compensation.
- TSL compatibility added (taken from Rawsasquatch's Pueblo mod)

Hinin · May 10, 2022

V.5 online :
- Removed yield conversion, and added +1 Science and Faith to Production and Food Buildings
- Change base yields of the UB to be 1 Science and Faith instead of 1 Culture

Valliand · Nov 25, 2022

FYI with VP 3.0 and MUC some components of this mod do not load. @gwennog i don't know if you are affiliated with this mod at all but since you updated some of Hinin's Custom Civs i thought i'd let you know

Hinin · Nov 25, 2022

Valliand said:
FYI with VP 3.0 and MUC some components of this mod do not load. @gwennog i don't know if you are affiliated with this mod at all but since you updated some of Hinin's Custom Civs i thought i'd let you know

Gwennog has no control on the update for this mod. It's just that I'm quite tired this week, and will try to update tomorrow.

gwennog · Mar 26, 2023

VP3.3 Compatibility

Waiting for the return of @Hinin, a version compatible with VP 3.3. Have fun :smoke:

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EDIT : I changed the attached file, the published version started with 2 warriors.

KaoticKanine · Mar 28, 2023

Started a game of Hisatsinom yesterday with my usual mods, but I got countless "image not found" errors that made me to force-close the game with Task Manager. Did another game just now, with only 4UCs, PDan's Tweaks, and New Beliefs, and while the image error didn't happen, the Hisatsinom only have the one UU.

gwennog · Mar 28, 2023

Could you provide me your database.log ?
Are you sure that the PDan's Tweaks is compatible with VP3.3? I don't use it and I have no problem with this mod.

gwennog · Mar 28, 2023

I tried with the same mods as you, MUCfVP and PDan's Tweaks, no problem.

KaoticKanine · Mar 28, 2023

Strange. It's still only showing the one UU for me. Well, this site refuses to let me attach my Database.log, so gonna put it under a spoiler...

Spoiler :

gwennog · Mar 28, 2023

There is a lot missing in your database.log, did you clear the cache before launching?
It lacks part of the traditional error messages from VP and nothing from MUCfVP while there is necessarily a message on the IMPROVEMENT_LUMBERMILL_JUNGLE which has not yet been corrected by PDan.

gwennog · Mar 28, 2023

Here, my database.log

Spoiler What you should see :

KaoticKanine · Mar 28, 2023

That's literally all that was in there. Was that not the right file I shared? This is insanely confusing :c5unhappy:

Well, to clear my cache, I assume I just have to delete the folder named "cache"?

gwennog · Mar 28, 2023

KaoticKanine said:
Well, to clear my cache, I assume I just have to delete the folder named "cache"?

yes

KaoticKanine · Mar 28, 2023

gwennog said:
yes

Stupid question, I know lol I just always worry of permanently ruining things by deleting a file from them.

But okay, I deleted the cache twice and even deleted and re-downloaded the Hisatsinom MOD in between. And the first UU is STILL the only Unique Component being shown. I think this game just does not want me to play the Hisatsinom

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