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History Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread VII

Discussion in 'World History' started by Plotinus, Sep 24, 2014.

  1. Agent327

    Agent327 Observer

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    I wonder what questions Domen is answering...
     
  2. Chukchi Husky

    Chukchi Husky Lone Wolf

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    This is something I've been asked to find out.

    Why did the Ancient Egyptians despise shepherds?
     
  3. Phrossack

    Phrossack Armored Fish and Armored Men

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    They did? What are some examples of this?
     
  4. r16

    r16 not deity

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    allow me correct myself once again . This action in 1917 once again involves a ship that will later serve in the Chilean Navy , the action once again involves ramming , possibly because the start of action was so close due to mist and other factors and Germans had no recourse but boarding since they were the rammed and would sink in any case .
     
  5. Cynovolans

    Cynovolans Not in my dimension.

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    They did not. Some Pharaohs are referred to as the Great Shepherd and the shepherd's crook was used as a symbol of authority.
     
  6. Domen

    Domen Misico dux Vandalorum

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    From the thread "First ancient genomes from Britain: Celtic and Anglo-Saxon":

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthr...es-from-Britain-Celtic-and-Anglo-Saxon/page78

    This below is based on 5 skeletons, 2 from Celtic period, 3 from Anglo-Saxon period:

    http://www.ashg.org/2014meeting/abstracts/fulltext/f140122098.htm

    Best similarity to modern populations (or admixture components) in percentages:

    Average for 2 skeletons from pre-Roman Celtic period from Hinxton:

    North_Sea 37.83
    Atlantic 29.63
    Baltic 10.16
    Eastern_Euro 9.21
    West_Mediterranean 6.55
    West_Asian 4.44
    East_Mediterranean 0
    Red_Sea 0.7
    South_Asian 0.95
    Southeast_Asian 0.02
    Siberian 0.06
    Amerindian 0
    Oceanian 0
    Northeast_African 0.15
    Sub-Saharan 0.255

    Average for 3 skeletons from the Anglo-Saxon period from Hinxton:

    North_Sea 41.37
    Atlantic 28.59
    Baltic 8.85
    Eastern_Euro 9.48
    West_Mediterranean 6.16
    West_Asian 3.23
    East_Mediterranean 0.3
    Red_Sea 0.28
    South_Asian 0.36
    Southeast_Asian 0.23
    Siberian 0
    Amerindian 0.03
    Oceanian 0.13
    Northeast_African 0.27
    Sub-Saharan 0.68

    Modern times, average for a sample of English people from Kent:

    North_Sea 35.52
    Atlantic 29.86
    Baltic 9.89
    Eastern_Euro 8.36
    West_Mediterranean 8.77
    West_Asian 3.35
    East_Mediterranean 2.5
    Red_Sea 0.33
    South_Asian 0.58
    Southeast_Asian 0.03
    Siberian 0.05
    Amerindian 0.35
    Oceanian 0.31
    Northeast_African 0.06
    Sub-Saharan 0.03

    Conclusions by one of users:

    So it could be continuity with only relatively small immigration, or it could be replacement by similar people.

    Imagine for example German-Americans invading Germany in 2015, driving all the Germans into Austria, and colonizing the land, replacing previous inhabitants. You would see the change of language (to English), the change of culture (more cheeseburgers, etc.), but - probably - there would be no dramatic differences in DNA of the population.

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    Even though 5 people is a ridiculously small sample, at least this is based on actual ancient DNA.

    The study in the link below, by contrast, is based only on comparing modern populations:

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v519/n7543/full/nature14230.html

    And I already wrote that it claims +/- ca. 70:30 proportion of Celtic:Anglo-Saxon ancestry in England.
     
  7. Plotinus

    Plotinus Philosopher Super Moderator

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    So my skeleton's mostly Anglo-Saxon, but what about the rest of me?
     
  8. gay_Aleks

    gay_Aleks communism will win.

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    I'm not clear on the specifics, but you might be part golem. Iron? Calcium? Sodium?

    Have you visited any Jewish priests recently?
     
  9. Domen

    Domen Misico dux Vandalorum

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    We also know that those 3 Anglo-Saxons were all inbreds:
    (if I recall correctly, both males are from Celtic period - so those from Anglo-Saxon times are 3 women)

    http://www.fi.id.au/2014/10/how-hinxtons-are-related-to-each-other.html

    Jeez...

    On the other hand, if those were women then maybe they even weren't Anglo-Saxon at all.

    They (or at least one or two of them) could be locals found in Anglo-Saxon cultural context.

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    Yes, men were from Celtic period, while inbred (but not related to each other) women from Anglo-Saxon times:

    https://www.sciencenews.org/article/anglo-saxons-left-language-maybe-not-genes-modern-britons

    So cousin marriages and sibling marriages (!!!) were apparently common during those Pagan "Dark Ages" ???

    Or did they just discover 3 inbreds in a sample of 3 people by chance?

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    I've read that Christianity, Christian marriage, and manorialism are to be credited with ending inbreeding in Europe.
     
  10. ParkCungHee

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    Marble, I think.
     
  11. Chukchi Husky

    Chukchi Husky Lone Wolf

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    It's supposed to be a reason why the Ancient Egyptians hated the Hebrews.
     
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    It sounds ridiculous, to be honest. Hebrews would be mostly shepherds while there would be no Egyptian shepherds or how does that go?
     
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    what's a good, more-accessible-than-not book on the history of china?
     
  15. JohannaK

    JohannaK Heroically Clueless

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    I had a good experience with The Search For Modern China by Jonathan D. Spence, but that only covers from the Qing onwards.
     
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    When in uni, Fairbank/Reischauer/Craig's East Asia: Tradition and Transformation pretty much covered it. The book has since been split so there should be a China edition now.
     
  17. sydhe

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    Why did Xiang Yu call his state the Western Chu when it was located in eastern Chu?
     
  18. Ajidica

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    He was reading the map upside down?
     
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    Does the term "kingdom of two sicilies" for union of Sicily and Naples have any geo-political backround?
    I mean - had the southern peninsula ever been referred to as a "second sicily" or part of siciliy, before the union?
     
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