Hitler as German Leader

Status
Not open for further replies.

Redwulf

Chieftain
Joined
Sep 18, 2001
Messages
4
Location
Wolves, England
I'm sick of all the Hitler bashing!

I have heard that people do not want him in the game because they feel that he did nothing for his country. What a load of Bollox! Personally, I feel that National Socialst ideas really are impressive, even if not all of them, but most of them. Hitler did many bad things and killed many innocent people (just as Mao did, Elizabeth, Montezuma, Caesar, Xerxes, and no doubt all other Civ3 leaders), but this is beside the point. During the National Socialist period in Germany, every German was content. Well, at least more content than they were in England or America. They were well feed, given a new sense of identity, and they became rich. He was well in the process of making his country strong again by getting rid of CAPITALISM (which murders 20'000 innocent people everyday BTW so that Godly America can be 'free') and making it natural again. He was not a rascist. He had great respect for Muslims (who fought for him in the SS) and Tibetan monks (who came to Berlin for a friendly visit to help Himmler decipher some texts which he believed to be Aryan. His hatred for the Jews was purely religious and political. He strove to bring back the Old religion for the German and Germanic people.

If this is doing nothing for his country, then bye bye Lincoln.


Also, I sick of the lack of knowledge people here have about the English. We are of Saxonic decsent. A Germanic tribe (and the greatest at that in my opinion), not Romanic or Celtic. And we weren't jewish/christian by the time we invaded these shores.


Both Germany and England need to be revised for an expansion to the game. I would also like to see the Incas, Hebrews, Congo, Mali, Canadians, Australians, Maoris, Maya, Carthaginians, Arabs, Tiahuanaco (maybe), Brazilians, Mongols, Norse, Spanish, Koreans. There's another 16.
 
Problem with Hitler is that, what good did he actually do for Germany? Sure he whipped up the depressed country and made huge conquests and so on, but in the end Germany was crushed and even more divided than before. Hitler represents a failed reign, the national socialism, and I believe that the leaders of civilizations should be represented by leaders who actually created something lasting.

Then again why is there Cleopatra as a leader? Some more ancient Egyptian leaders would have been far more convinient. Or why is there Joan of Arc as leader of France? Someone like Charlemange(He was a Frank, but does that have anything to do with beign French?) would be better...And so on...
 
Maybe, but Germany fell because of British and Russian forces. Hitler won almost every battle until 1942. He only made one mistake. He invaded Russia instead of Turkey to meet up with Rasid Ali in Persia, but he wasn't to know that it would lead to the downfall of his Empire. Anyway, as I said, during peacetime, Hitler made Germany THE most proseperous nation on the planet. Just imagine what a National Socialist superpower would be like in this day and age. If we all go NS and we all get along and have respect, then the world is saved in my opinion.

I always will say Hitler for the leader of Germany. and have National Socialism as a COMPLETELY different government type to Fascism.

Sig Hael as it is in old English.
 
I won't dignify this thread with an indepth response. I will only comment that, no, you are absolutely wrong. Hitler was racist. He hated the Jews as a race. One does not breed out a religion or a political idea. It was the blood he hated. To say he was not racist is complete and utter ignorance and revisionism. He hated blacks, and had to do a 180 when he allied with Japan. If he had respect for the muslims, it was purely expediency, for they were a common enemy of the Jews in Palestine.

Nazi Germany was performance art on a colossal scale, and whatever gloss was used to make the people content was an example of mass psychology. Perhaps democracy is guilty of it too, but that is irrelevant.

Hitler is, with good reason, abhored by every healthy-minded person who has heard his name. HITLER DESERVES TO BE BASHED, so shut up already.

EDIT: I'm not talking about modding him as German leader for personal use, mind you. Just not as shipped with the game.
 
Moderator Action: So you want to play as Hitler? Go ahead - it certainly doesn't need to be discussed here. If you're really keen on the subject then PM me and I'll move this to World History, but until then, I'm going to avoid the inevitable flame war and shut this down.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

Fast on the draw, Cunobelin. We will have to meet at high noon tommorrow to see who can bag a thread fastest!
Lefty
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom