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HOF III March Gauntlet

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Hall of Fame Discussion' started by Tone, Mar 25, 2011.

  1. del62

    del62 Chieftain

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    Who were your opponents?
     
  2. bluejay

    bluejay Chieftain

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    China, America, Mongols, Arabia, Russia, Inca. I used them once to trade for Warrior Code, and once in a peace settlement to get Writing, which I used for embassies and city investigation. I stopped research after Horseback Riding. Basically I followed the lead of Calis, who had a 210BC finish with Iroquois.
     
  3. Calis

    Calis on time

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    I am so glad that I gave you some advice ;)

    But I will also try to give it a shot, if time allows it.
     
  4. bluejay

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    This isn't the start that I ended up using, because one tribe was on a separate island, but this has the most cows that I've ever seen from the starting location. Eleven!
     

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  5. Calis

    Calis on time

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    :faint:
     
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  6. Ceoladir

    Ceoladir Inconceivable!

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    Save please.
     
  7. bluejay

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    The 11-cow save, I assume.
     

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  8. Calis

    Calis on time

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    Got my game accepted:

    430BC with the Celts

    Dom limit 1107 (It was a really perfect map).
     
  9. Tone

    Tone Chieftain Hall of Fame Staff

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    Only two submissions but both were top quality, beating everthing that was on the table before this. Good job guys! :goodjob: The lower domination limit was critical though.

    Gold Calis 430BC
    Silver bluejay 270BC

    Update and new gauntlet are on the way...
     
  10. del62

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    Well done Calis and Blujay, most of my attempts ended with a Civ on another Island, so I submitted a couple of domination instead
     
  11. bluejay

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    Thank you.

    For a Large Conquest on 80% Pangaea, you need quite a small domination limit to guarantee that all civs are on one continent.

    I did an experiments, as follows. I set Mapfinder to allow every map (only criterion was domination limit >0). I did a few hundred maps and put the DLs into Excel, and found that the mean was DL was about 1250 with a standard deviation of about 50.

    Then, for many maps, I started up, settled in place, then retired. This lets me see where the civs started. I found that you need to have a DL of under 1150, 2 standard deviations down from the mean, to have a good likelihood of all civs being on one continent. I was lucky with my submitted game, DL = 1208. Calis was lucky to find a good map with DL of 1107, but then he must have played it well to get such an early win.
     
  12. Calis

    Calis on time

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    I was very lucky with my map, yes. After the game finished, I saw that there was not one single small island besides my continent. It was a true pangea map. I do not think that much below 1107 is possible.

    But I did not have 11 cows... ;)
     
  13. bluejay

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    On my submitted game, I *only* had 4 cows in my capital's 21 squares. Calis had 2, but a better map otherwise.
     
  14. Calis

    Calis on time

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    Don't get me wrong. I was just kidding. I am aware that my map was great.
     
  15. bluejay

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    Yes, I understood the kidding, even without the added smiley face. :)
     
  16. CKS

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    I finally finished my game, as a conquest. The missing AI were on an island reachable by GLH galleys, but my naval invasion skills are only marginally better than the AI's. I finished up in 680 AD. This was an interesting experience, but not my cup of tea. Maybe with the next gauntlet I can finish within the time allotted.
     
  17. Spoonwood

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    If the capital were on the bonus grassland at the "2" position, it would have 9 grassland cows, and 3 hills in its city radius. Pre-Engineering that's (((3x3)+(9x2))+2)=29 shields. Once you forest all the cows, that's another 9 shields, for 38 shields pre-Shake's. Post-Shake's you have some 16 more shields, I think, for 54 shields total.
     

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