HOF Update October 2024: Another Sid Win!

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The Civilization III Hall of Fame has been updated. 10 games were accepted since the previous update.

Congratulations to BlackBetsy for the highest Firaxis score of the update with a Large Sid Domination game for 9221 points.

BlackBetsy was the most active player during this update, submitting 7 games.

Only 1 player was brave enough to take on Sid this update. BlackBetsy submitted a 1635 AD Large Sid Domination game for 9221 points.

A number of players gained number one positions:

Calis with a 1040 AD Large Monarch Spaceship game for 6042 points.
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Congratulations to Bartleby for rising from 12th to 11th and to BlackBetsy for rising from 22nd to 18th in the Quartermasters competition.
Commiserations to nerovats for falling from 11th to 12th, to EMan for falling from 18th to 19th, to Marsden for falling from 19th to 20th, to sanabas for falling from 20th to 21st and to Scratcher for falling from 21st to 22nd in the Quartermasters competition.

A number of players are working towards the Quartermaster, gaining awards as follows:
Machiavelli : BlackBetsy rose from 17th to 16th.
Pentathlon : Kuningas rose from 9th to 8th, AutomatedTeller rose from 10th to 9th, Nikodemus rose from 11th to 10th, Svar rose from 22nd to 21st, Pacioli rose from 23rd to 22nd, Marsden rose from 24th to 23rd, SpiffyKeen7744 rose from 25th to 24th, BlackBetsy rose from 27th to 25th, zerksees rose from 40th to 39th, Denniz rose from 41st to 40th, a space oddity rose from 45th to 44th, WillowBrook rose from 46th to 45th, Quintillus rose from 47th to 46th, superslug rose from 48th to 47th, adrianj rose from 49th to 48th, The Professor rose from 50th to 49th and SideshowBob rose from 51st to 50th. eldar is no longer a Pentathlete.
Octathlon : PrinceMyshkin rose from 16th to 15th, BlackBetsy rose from 20th to 18th, zerksees rose from 36th to 35th and krakedhalo rose from 37th to 36th.

 

[BlackBetsy]

Congrats, @Calis - #1 spots on full tables 20 years after the launch of the HOF are always impressive!

 

[Calis]

Thank you very much. I needed a training game to reach that finally. There, two entrances in that table.

 

[BlackBetsy]

@Calis you snuck in a Small Warlord Diplo game to bump me down to #4!! I wondered why my numbers were off. 550AD is a nice finish. Hard to beat; I'll need to figure out a better Warlord target I guess.

 

[Calis]

@Calis you snuck in a Small Warlord Diplo game to bump me down to #4!! I wondered why my numbers were off. 550AD is a nice finish. Hard to beat; I'll need to figure out a better Warlord target I guess.

Actually I had bad luck in this game. In Medieval I got "Chivalry" as free tech and in Industial "Ironclads", and I had no SGL available for the UN, therefore I had to wait ~5 turn for it to complete. Therefore a date around 450 AD would have been possible, actually.

 

[BlackBetsy]

Actually I had bad luck in this game. In Medieval I got "Chivalry" as free tech and in Industial "Ironclads", and I had no SGL available for the UN, therefore I had to wait ~5 turn for it to complete. Therefore a date around 450 AD would have been possible, actually.

Oh - wow - that's easily a #1 spot. I have a suspicion that Small is better to zoom through the Ancient Age because there are more huts BUT the research gets immediately slower in the Medieval Age. When / how did you trigger your Golden Age?

 

[Calis]

Oh - wow - that's easily a #1 spot. I have a suspicion that Small is better to zoom through the Ancient Age because there are more huts BUT the research gets immediately slower in the Medieval Age. When / how did you trigger your Golden Age?

Well, if everything goes according to plan, I trigger the Golden Age (by building the Colossus and The Mausoleum) immediately at the beginning of the Medieval Age, so I can use it to build universities (and maybe Copernicus'), thus, after the Golden Age I can continue 4 turn research.

 

[BlackBetsy]

I have been thinking more and more about this and the importance of an earlier Golden Age. In my TinyChieftain 490AD game, I triggered it in the middle of the Medieval Age with Maus after I had been able to get research down to about 5 turns. All my libraries and universities got built and I 4 turned everything after that. I felt like it was pretty good timing.

The hard part for me is taking a core city off of building settlers to build Maus. I desperately try to have 20 cities / settlers by 1000 BC. I have been mostly hitting 16-18, except for one time with Sumeria where I hit 25,

What is your early game build sequence? How long do you go with your capital as a settler factory?

 

[Calis]

My apologies for the late reply.
In my recent tries, I went for an early scout then worker. After that I built a granary, as I waited for an SGL (at the latest until Philosophy) for the Pyramids.
Of course an early settler from a hut is a must, too.
On the large map I aimed for ~25-28 cities. (Slightly fewer for diplo win compared to space race)
I tried to reach the medieval ages at the latest around 1000 BC.
At that point I try to trigger my GA (Colossus & Maus) to be able to have a 4 turn research asap.

But in my current game (small Chieftain space ship) I changed my approach. I went for Chamnix' way. https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/g-iii-charlie.279090/page-3#post-6993131
After 20+ tries I got what I wa looking for. Nonetheless I won't beat Tones game there. Still unluck with free techs in medieval age & industrial. Tone game is really, really good.

 

[BlackBetsy]

My apologies for the late reply.
In my recent tries, I went for an early scout then worker. After that I built a granary, as I waited for an SGL (at the latest until Philosophy) for the Pyramids.
Of course an early settler from a hut is a must, too.
On the large map I aimed for ~25-28 cities. (Slightly fewer for diplo win compared to space race)
I tried to reach the medieval ages at the latest around 1000 BC.
At that point I try to trigger my GA (Colossus & Maus) to be able to have a 4 turn research asap.

But in my current game (small Chieftain space ship) I changed my approach. I went for Chamnix' way. https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/g-iii-charlie.279090/page-3#post-6993131
After 20+ tries I got what I wa looking for. Nonetheless I won't beat Tones game there. Still unluck with free techs in medieval age & industrial. Tone game is really, really good.

@Chamnix's post is fantastic! Some things I picked up:

Middle Ages entered in 2270 BC.

This suggests that he did not, as I do, wait to get the starting techs before he started popping huts. I often bypass huts so that I can trade for the starting techs and leave them to pop later strategically. Interesting.

By 1000 BC, I had 16 towns/cities, 118 citizens, 24 workers

118 citizens on 16 towns is extremely impressive. That's 7.5 citizens per settlement. How happiness was maintained....not sure. I know he did the war happiness thing but wow! Impressive to have that many citizens.

I note that he is at 1.5 workers / town, which validates my current thinking.

450 AD – complete Flight and enter the Modern Age.

I note that this is 13 turns faster than my #1 Diplo victory on Large Warlord. And, he pulled Sanitation as his free tech, rather than a useful one. As I noted in my thread, I was surprised by how fast I was going since I was playing to see what the times looked like / figuring out the level / map so I could have been tighter and lost 7 turns on Chivalry...but wow, 450 AD Modern Age is fantastic.

The space ship was launched in 660 AD.

21 turn Modern Age is fantastic. That's 1 turn away from absolutely optimal.

 

[Calis]

For now I leave the low dificulty levels and try for a huge (talking about map size) SID win (either diplo or Space race).
Had my PC running for maps overnight, which resulted in 150+ maps with at least 2 grassland cows and a river.

 

[Spoonwood]

That's 7.5 citizens per settlement. How happiness was maintained....not sure.

Chieftain has 4 citizens starting content. He has 2 luxuries, and 10% on the luxury slider in the 1000 BC save.