Hokath's Tweaks

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Since the special session of the VP Congress will delay new proposals quite a bit, I am jumping on the bandwagon and making my (database implementable) proposed changes to base VP available.

Please find attached a single mod with neat little folders you can delete as you wish.
It includes:
Corporations Changes
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Now VP is so stable, and AI bonuses less front-loaded, I find myself playing almost every game to the victory screen.
It becomes apparent that Corporations as they currently stand determine, in large part, the outcome of the game. Yet, you cannot reasonably control even which Corporation you Found.
For example, 10 Franchises of Giorgio Armeier gives you +20 Culture per Office (that is, per City) giving a double-digit percentage of your total Culture.
Meanwhile Civilized Jewelers on the same number of Franchises gives over 100% Great Person Rate AND 30% Golden Age Length.
These bonuses are unlike any other game system with the possible exception of Factory production scaling (see below)
Here I present a rework to reduce the power and increase the interactivity of the Corporations system
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Note: Max Franchises is 25 for assessing scaling bonuses
General
-- There is a new Corporation called Populi Medicine, its yield is Faith, with +% Faith route bonus
-- Monopoly HQs require one of their resources locally to build. Monopolies are no longer required
  This allows you to, roughly, pick any Corporation. You might not be able to make it in the Capital.
-- the resource sets are organized as follows
  Trader Sids: Cocoa, Salt, Spice, Sugar, Coffee, Cloves/Nutmeg/Pepper
  Centaurus Extractors: Whale, Crab, Coral, Pearls
  Hexxon Refinery: Coal, Oil, Uranium, Glass, Brazilwood
  Giorgio Armeier: Perfume, Silk, Cotton, Dye, Fur
  Firaxite Materials: Iron, Aluminum, Marble, Copper, Porcelain
  TwoKay Foods: Horse, Wine, Truffles, Citrus, Olive
  Civilized Jewelers: Lapis, Gold, Silver, Gems, Amber, Jewelry
  Populi Medicine: Ivory, Tobacco, Incense, Jade, Tea
-- Franchises AND Offices give +2 (up from +1) to all Corporation Resources locally
  If you do have a monopoly, you might want the matching Corporation!
  Hexxon gives Border Growth Points
-- Reduced the Office yield bonus per Franchise to +1 for all Corporations
  except for Food and Gold which are +2
  and Border Growth which is +3
-- Reduced all yield modifiers for sending Trade Routes to Franchises from 10% to 3%
-- Corporation yield bonus to buildings have been reduced in strength, it now affects 1 late game building (TwoKay has 2 limited buildings)
    with more late game buildings we can redo some of these (i.e. supermarket, marina)
  Trader Sids: +4 Gold from Broadcast Tower
  Centaurus Extractors: +8 Production from Mine Field
  Hexxon Refinery: +3 Science and Production from Military Base
  Giorgio Armeier: +4 Culture from Shopping Mall (see below)
  Firaxite Materials: +3 Science from Stock Exchange
  TwoKay Foods: +5 Food from Refinery and Recycling Center
  Civilized Jewelers: +6 Golden Age Points from Airport
  Populi Medicine: +3 Faith from Hospital
-- Corporations have new global Specialist yields
  Trader Sids: +3 Food from Merchants
  Centaurus Extractors: +1 Gold to all Specialists
  Hexxon Refinery: +2 Science from Engineers
  Giorgio Armeier: +2 Culture, Gold, Tourism from Artists (see below)
  Firaxite Materials: +2 Production from Scientists
  TwoKay Foods: no bonus
    The idea is not to supercharge tall, but to 'thicken' wide
  Civilized Jewelers: +1 Tourism to all Specialists
  Populi Medicine: +3 Gold from Civil Servants
-- Corporations now have internal trade bonuses on their Offices
  Trader Sids: 50 Gold on Internal TR Finish
  Centaurus Extractors: +6 Production on Internal TR
  Hexxon Refinery: 100 Border Growth on Internal TR Finish
  Giorgio Armeier: 80 Tourism on Internal TR Finish
  Firaxite Materials: 40 Science on Internal TR Finish
  TwoKay Foods: +10 Food on Internal TR
  Civilized Jewelers: 75 Golden Age Points on Internal TR Finish
  Populi Medicine: 40 Culture on Internal TR Finish
    Internal TR is a supported strategy but Corporations have had almost all their power in International Routes, this intends to bring Internal TRs up in power to compete. I tried to be conservative, but numbers may be too high. I based on the Kabuki Theatre (50 Culture and much earlier, but a UB).

Specific
-- Corporation tooltips are updated to suggest to the player what victory conditions they support
  Trader Sids: Diplomatic
  Centaurus Extractors: Spaceship and Cultural
  Hexxon Refinery: Spaceship and Domination
  Giorgio Armeier: Cultural
  Firaxite Materials: Spaceship
  TwoKay Foods: Domination
  Civilized Jewelers: Cultural and Diplomatic
  Populi Medicine: Domination and Diplomatic
    This is both an aid to the new player and to inform our design
-- The following Corporations give more than 1 Trade Route
  Civilized Jewelers: +2 Trade Routes total
  Populi Medicine: +2 Trade Routes total
  Trader Sids: +3 Trade Routes total
    Intended to boost Tourism, City-State Influence, rate of Franchise gain, etc.
-- Firaxite Materials and Centaurus Extractors swap Trade Route bonuses (flat sci and % sci)
-- Special effects (all Corporations have one, like +100% Sea Range or Reveal Fog of War)
     Giorgio Armeier:
       Trade Routes sent to you give their *owner* +5 Gold
         Encourages people to trade with you and get the +% Tourism boost, also interacts with their Building the Shopping Mall (see below)
     TwoKay Foods:
       1 Horse per Franchise
         Like Hexxon, these count towards Monopolies
     Firaxite Materials:
       Trade Routes are no longer invulnerable
         On the premier Science Corporation this is too uninteractive
         In general I think this bonus is not very healthy, so I won't be adding anywhere else
       1 Iron per Franchise and 1 Aluminum per 2 Franchises
         Like Hexxon, these count towards Monopolies
     Populi Medicine:
       Trade Routes sent to you give you +5 Gold
         Opposite reasoning, trying to discourage people from Tourism-bombing you
     Hexxon Refinery
       5 oil and coal, with +1 per franchise (moved from office)
       Loses +15% production to Oil/Aluminium/Uranium Units

  Offices
  -- These are in addition to above Internal TR bonuses and +1 Yield per Franchise
  -- Any unlisted previous bonuses are removed
    Trader Sids:
      Incoming Route +4 Gold to you, +2 Gold for them
      +2% Production per CS Trade Route on Empire
    Centaurus Extractors:
      +1 Production and Culture from Sea Tiles
      +1 Science and Culture from Sea Resources
        Inteded to promote Culture->Tourism effects
    Hexxon Refinery:
      loses +1 oil and coal per 3 franchises, instead has border growth points from franchises
      +15% Production to Military Units
      Convert 25% Production Cost to Science on training Military Units
    Giorgio Armeier:
      +2% GPP per Franchise (moved and nerfed from Civilized Jewelers)
      1 Artist Slot
    Firaxite Materials:
      10% Production to Buildings (down from 20%)
      10 Science when constructing a Building, scaling with Era
      +8 Science on Building after discovering Electronics
    TwoKay Foods:
      -2% Empire Size Modifier in all Cities (down from -5)
        Note this is a global bonus and is very, very strong
      -1 to all Needs
    Civilized Jewelers:
      +10% Gold and Tourism during GA
        I haven't tested yet this table works with Tourism yet
      +1 Gold per CS friend, +2 Gold and +1 Tourism per Ally
      -- also added +1 Tourism / 2 Citizens to the Airport, their building.
        Need to have a longer discussion about the Airport...
    Populi Medicine:
      1 Happiness per 6 Policies adopted
      15 Influence with all City-States upon construction

Building Changes
  -- Maintenance cost for Franchises increased from 1 to 6
    Franchises are stronger and this represents an initial trade-off
  -- Add Shopping Mall Building at Flight, use to turn Franchises into a bonus!
    2000 Production Cost, 7 Maintenance
    Requires a Grocer in the City
    +3 Tourism, +2 Gold
    +4 Culture and +2 Tourism to all Franchises in the City
      This gets you your money back from the maintenance, and the Culture helps resist Tourism
    Incoming Route +2 Gold to you, +2 Gold for them
    5% of all Gold Purchases are converted to Tourism
      Half strength of proposed Riad bonus, together they will equal Bank conversion to Science
  -- Add World Trade Center at Telecom, fun little addition to have a Corporation Wonder
    2300 Production Cost
    +1 Culture, +4 Tourism, +5 Gold
    2 Great Merchant Points
    Receive 1 Delegate in the World Congress for every 12 City-States originally in the World
    Gain 1 additional Trade Route
    Incoming Route +6 Gold to you, +6 Gold for them
    All Corporate Franchises in the Empire yield +5 Gold and +4 Tourism

The Pikeman Rework
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Pikemen are very weak, yet if they were stronger Knights would be useless and Longswordsmen redundant.
Azum believes Pikemen should be moved earlier, to Metal Casting. Here I present a riff on this idea that maintains the feel of Medieval combat throughout the Renaissance, until the arrival of the Fusilier.
The Pikeman is actually pushed back to Machinery (with the Xbow) and made stronger. Then, a new unit between Spearman and Pikeman is introduced -- the Halberdier -- at Metal Casting to bridge the resulting large upgrade gap. The Tercio is removed and replaced with a Promotion to all melee units on Gunpowder, and a new Longswordsman upgrade -- the Greatswordsman -- is added on that tier instead, with a speciality of killing Pikes.
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Units
  Halberdier
  -- New unit added at Metal Casting
  -- Uses "English Pikeman" spear-and-shield model by Danrell
    This is actually some kind of medieval Spearman. A halberd is what the Pikeman uses! A pike is much longer and has no axe. Crazy times.
  -- 16 CS, 110 Cost, and Formation I
  -- Upgrades from Spearman, upgrades to Pikeman
  -- Berserker is now Halberdier replacement (no real change)

  Pikeman
  -- Moved back to Machinery
  -- CS increased to 20
  -- Cost increased to 150
  -- Goedendag cost proprtionally increased to 110 and CS to 22
  -- Upgrades into Fusilier

  Greatswordsman
  -- New unit at Chemistry
  -- Uses the Enlightenment Era model and icons
  -- 26 CS, 300 Cost, 1 Iron
  -- Discipline
  -- Two-hander promotion
    33% Attack versus Spearman, Billman, Pikeman, Free Company
  -- Upgrades from Longswordsman, upgrades to Fusilier

  Tercio
    -- Removed (For now I put it at PrereqTech=NULL, Cost=-1)
    -- Impi is a Pikeman replacement (24 CS, 200 Cost, Cover I and Formation I, 50% against Gunpowder)
    -- Yellow Brow is a Greatswordsman replacement (no Iron, Formation I instead of Two-hander)
      Maybe this should replace Pikeman, but Impi overlap unfavorable
    -- Landsknecht renamed Doppelsoeldner is a Greatswordsman replacement (loses attack promotion, see below)
    -- Musketeer is a Greatswordsman replacement (no Iron, Gunpowder unlock, Musketeer promo instead of Two-hander)
      Maybe this should replace Cuirassier in a later version. Strange unit historically speaking.

Unit Promotions
  Formation III
    This is intended as a powerful option for Pikemen, Doppelsoeldner can cheat it early (strong)
  -- Old Doppelsoldner icon inverted, very pretty
  -- Melee Units only
  -- Unlocks at Gunpowder
  -- Requires Formation II
  -- +15% Defense in Open Terrain
  -- +30% Attack against Full HP Enemies (old Doppelsoldner)
  -- +10 Hit Points

  Matchlock
    This replaces the Tercio stage
  -- Old Doppelsoldner icon, very pretty
  -- Melee Units only
    so mostly Pikeman and Greatswordsman. This brings 20 Str Pikeman to 24 Str "Tercio", though note lower base for other promos
  -- Unlocks at Gunpowder
  -- 20% Combat Strength
  -- Received for free using Technology_FreePromotions
  -- Lost on upgrade
If and when I propose this it will probably be modular. The Greatswordsman is a really cool addition that can stand on its own. The general principle of moving the Pikeman one tier earlier can also be done separate to the rest.

Industrial Policies Rework
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We've done a huge amount of work on the Ancient and Medieval trees, but I am left disappointed in the Industrial Era where only Imperialism feels like it hits the right notes.
Here I present a reimagining of Rationalism and Industry (with some minor tweaks to Imperialism).
Rationalism is focussed on Growth and Happiness but in a general way that will allow you to use it to "thicken" your wide Empire.
Industry is audited to make sure its bonuses scale best in a wide Empire.
Together they create an interesting choice between "pure wide" and "thick wide" , while Tall has "pure tall" in Rationalism and "thick tall" in aggressive puppet expansion via Imperialism.
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Industrial Trees

  Rationalism
    unleashes a wave of new Citizens by providing large Happiness and Food bonuses. Simultaneously boosts the output of the resulting Golden Ages and Specialists, especially Scientists.  --> Use this to "thicken" your wide Empire. Or go crazy Tall with Great Scientists!
   -- Tree Structure is now
     Liberalism
     Mass Education
     Secularism (requires Liberalism)
     Emancipation (requires Liberalism)
     Employment Law (requires Emancipation and Mass Education)

     .X..X
     /\  |
     X.X.|
       \ /
     ...X.

  -- Opener
    Loses +3 Science and +2 Production on Strategics
    Loses +% Science in all Cities
    Gains +33% Great Scientist Rate
    Gain +1 Science and Culture on Scientists
      I don't know how smart the AI is with this so these yields will encourage GS production
    Gains +10% Growth in all Cities
 
  -- Scaler
    Loses +% Science in all Cities
    Gains +5% Growth in all Cities

  -- Liberalism (was Scientific Revolution)
    Loses ability to make Observatories
      Observatories now have no Policy Requirement, +4 (from 2) Science and 1 (from 2) Scientist Slot(s)
      They unlock at Astronomy in T1 Renaissance, as makes sense!
      Public School loses its Scientist slot to keep the number of slots the same. (not like highschoolers are making serious breakthroughs)
    Loses +2 Science on Jungle/Snow
      This was a very strange choice
    Gains +2 Gold and +1 Production from Specialists
    Gains +25% GP Rate during a Golden Age

  -- Mass Education (was Enlightenment)
    (Receive 1 Free Tech)
    Loses +1 Happiness from Universities
    Gains +3 Food, +2 Culture, and +1 Happiness from Public Schools

  -- Secularism (was Free Thought)
    (-5 Religious Unrest)
    Loses Great Scientist bonuses
    Gains +10% Science during a Golden Age
    Gains +3 Production and Gold from Academies
      A bonus to Great Scientists before you bulb them

  -- Emancipation (was Rights of Man)
    Loses Needs Reduction
    Loses Science from Golden Age
    Loses yields on Villages
    Gains Culture and GAP per citizen oneshot boost
    Gains +1 Happiness per 6 Citizens
      n.b. there is currently a bug where this doesn't work with the Progress policy. Hopefully fixed soon!
    Gains 10% Food during a Golden Age

  -- Employment Law (was Empiricism)
    (+1 Food per Citizen)
    Gains +1 Production per Citizen
    Loses 25% Growth in all Cities
    Loses +3% Science per GW (up to 20%)
      This is too Tall-specific, belongs in Freedom imo
    Gains 50% of Happiness converted to Culture
 
  -- Finisher
    (Purchase GS with Faith)
    (12 Security in all Cities)
    +25% Yields from GS Bulb
      Save the big science for a completed tree, no dipping in


  Imperialism
  -- Tree Structure is now
    Civilizing Mission
    Regimental System
    Colonialism
    Exploitation (requires Colonialism)
    Martial Law (requires all three T1)

  -- Colonialism
    Split the Forts and Citadels into their own bullet point
    Now +2 Science, Culture, and Border Growth (up from 1 Culture, 0 Border Growth)

  -- Exploitation
    Loses yields from Farm/Plantation/Camp
    Gains +3 Food, Production, and Border Growth on Luxury Resources
      Luxuries are concentrated in the regions, so you get most out of this if you've taken over another civ
 
  -- Martial Law
    Upped Penalty Reduction to 30% from 20%.
      This policy is most of the strength, but it is actually not great compared to Industry
      Industry is +15% to all (after some buildings) and affects all cities
      This is similar to 20% to all with no buildings, but only affects puppets
      30% packs a bigger punch, makes Annex less necessary (important for v. big empire modifers etc),
      and end you up at a neat 50% yield reduction on puppets, which is easier to quantify for the player.
    Can at earliest by the 4th policy to compensate increased strength and prevent extreme christmas-treeing with Industry

  -- Finisher
    Gains "Reveals Hidden Antiquity Sites" from Artistry finisher
      Ideological pressure is a huge problem for Imperialism, this helps fight that
      Hidden sites on Artistry doesn't make great sense, since archaeology won't be unlocked for a long time

  Industry
  -- Splash art changed to "Industry" with the man in the top hat standing by the train, rather than the "Commerce" ships
  -- Tree Structure is now
    Division of Labor
    Subsidies
    Entrepreneurship (requires Division of Labor)
    Mercantilism (requires Subsidies)
    Gold Standard (requires Mercantilism and Division of Labor)

    ..X.X
      | |
    ..|.X
      /\/
    .X.X.
 
    Note due to graphical glitch in CiV, cannot put Entrepreneurship on second row!

  -- Opener
    Increased purchase reduction to 10%
    Gains +50% Great Merchant rate
    Gains +100% Coaling Station Production boost
      You need this early or you won't use it!
    Loses +2 Trade Routes
      Too strong for an opener

  -- Division of Labor
    +3% Culture from select Buildings instead of Gold
      We will have a Culture side and a Science side to the tree
    List changed to remove Forge and include Armory
    Loses 100% to Coaling Stations
    Gains +33% Yields from (both types of) City Connections

  -- Subsidies (was Free Trade -- can't have Free Trade and Mercantilism in same tree!)
    Loses 50% Great Merchant Rate
    Loses 5 Gold from Trade Routes
    Loses -2 Poverty
    +1 Happiness from Windmills
      Moved happiness bonus earlier and on a building you might not have
    Gain -50% Tile maintenance
      So with Authority your Railroads are free!
    Gains the 10 Science on building construction, scaling with Era

  -- Entrepreneurship
    Loses +1 Happiness from Workshops
    +2 Production and +1 Gold from Mine/*Farm*/Lumbermill
      The "spammable" improvements
    Gains +3 Food and +2 Culture on every Village and Town
      Note potential for Culture on Tiles -> Tourism
      A bonus to Great Merchants outside of Trade Mission

  -- Mercantilism
    +3% Gold from select Buildings instead of Culture
      This is the Science side
    List changed to remove Market and include Hotel
    Gains +2 Trade Routes

  -- Gold Standard (was Protectionism -- too close to Mercantilism)
    (Gold Investment 10% boost)
    WLTKD boost is now 10% Gold and Culture rather than Food and Science
      reduce overlap with Rationalism GA boosts
    Gains +25% instant yields from Great Merchants
    Loses +33% yields from internal trade
      This is in Fealty nowadays

  -- Finisher
    Loses yields from Specialists
    Gains +3 Science and +2 Production from Strategic Resources
      We've done a trade deal with Rationalism

Early Tree Tweaks
Completing what we've started and cementing the identity of Tradition--Progress--Authority
There is a minor touch-up to Statecraft also.
This folder also includes a rewrite of the "help text" of each early policy tree to better explain, at a glance, what it does for you. Hopefully useful for the new player.
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Tree Descriptions (not intended to be deleted)
-- Increased the length of descriptive text for each Policy Tree to 5-6 lines
  This is meant to help new comers who have no idea what these things do.
  It also informs the design of the trees, see below
-- For the 3 Ancient Era Trees, the text also delineates the `early game' bonuses (what sort of start it supports) and the 'throughout the game' bonuses.

Tradition
-- Justice loses +1 Production per City
  This is a Progress effect, Tradition yields should come from Buildings
-- All starting Policies now give yields to a T1 and T2 Building, where the T2 Builiding is an 'improvement' building
  Justice gains +1 Production on Council and Forge
    Bring up to Ceremony power level
  Ceremony loses +1 Science on Council
    Balance this against other choices with the small nerf
  Sovereignty gains +2 Border Growth Points on Shrine and Stoneworks
    Balance this against other path with targeted yield change (not Gold or Production, etc.)
    Currently if you open this you are starting Shrine, you are delaying Splendor where the Gold and Culture comes from
    Together this means your Cities are very slow to grow borders, noticably compared to Population
    This also buffs the `Border Blobs' strategy heavily nerfed by Authority rework
-- Second tier policies tweaked for relative power
  Splendor +2 Culture is now on Monument/Aqueduct/Baths
    This smooths the gain of yields, since both Garden and Baths were later and on opposite sides
  Majesty gains +2 Tourism on Granary/Caravansary/Gardens
    Complete the symmetry of each policy buffing a building
    Choice of buildings meant to mirror Splendor
    Tourism won't upset early game balance strongly like Food or Gold would
    However Tourism will benefit Trade Routes via Influence. The early you pick, the sooner you get.
-- Name and Art changes -- personal taste -- where appropriate Flavor text is also changed.
  Sovereignty renamed to Ceremony
    Sovereignty is such a non-name. Other choices mean you aren't sovereign? Que??
  Ceremony renamed Mysticism
    I'm such a Scorpio
  Royal Astrologer renamed to Astrologer's Sanctum
    Just don't like having 2 different "Royal" somethings
  State Treasury renamed to Treasure Hoard
    Check the description, it's a bit different to a finance ministry
    I want to make a proper State Treasury National Wonder in Renaissance (see next post)
  Treasure Hoard has new icon
    More appropriate to text description ;)
  Majesty renamed to Bounty
    Too close to Divine Right in Fealty

Authority
-- Opener loses +1 Production per City
  This is a Progress effect, Authority yields should come from Units
-- Militarism gains +2 Production for City with greater than 10 Strength
  Buffed to +2 because it comes later (and with the requirement)
  This should also present more of a choice between left and right sides
  Currently left side is much stronger, not least because you want Production early

Statecraft
-- Shuffle bonuses for better left-right balance
  Move +1 strategic per 3 Alliances from Foreign Service to Exchange Markets
    Foreign Service is stacked and Resources make more sense on Exchange Markets
  Move +1 Happiness per trade route from Exchange Markets to Trade Confederacy
    Buff Trade Confederacy to compete with Foreign Service
    The other Medieval Trees have +1 Happiness effects on the first row
    Exchange Markets needs to lose something to offset gain above
-- Delete the 'Scholasticism' bonus from Shadow Networks
     In Vanilla +25% Science of Allies is a very strong effect
     In VP this does basically nothing (last game was +3 Science upon adoption)
     New players therefore can be tricked into thinking this important
     Shadow Networks is already really good
Finally there is a sub-folder containing a more thorough Authority rework: People have theorized that yields-on-kill in Authority is bad for the game overall due to its scaling with map size (barbarians), difficulty, defender-favoured nature, and other aspects. Here I have implemented a version that reorients the tree to producing units generally, and more tribute yields for the very-early game tempo. Not sure if I 100% agree but you can try it!
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Authority
  -- Opener
   Yields on Kill removed
   25% Gold converted to Culture and Science from Tribute City-States
  -- Scalar
   Yields on Kill removed
   5% Science and Culture conversion from training units
  -- Imperium
   20 Prod and Gold on border expand changed to 40 Prod
     You want production for the scaler
  -- Tribute
   50% Culture from Tribute changed to 33% Food and Production (in the Capital)
     Since culture is on opener
  -- Finisher
   Culture from Tribute removed
   20 Prod and Gold on border expand changed to 40 Gold
     same total yields as before but now gold comes as tribute starts to get harder

Misc Changes
Some tweaks to Buildings, especially Hotel and Airport, which really grind my gears.
Also a now-playable version of a world without Work Boats! Thanks @KungCheops for all his work on improvement AI
Atolls with actual map effects (though I think EnemyUnitPanel lua needs to update to show the CS change?)
There is also a change to Elephant units which significantly affects War Elephants (Ivory start)
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Pantheons
  Custom Mod Option for permanent pantheons change to 1
    If you are spread to, you keep your pantheon. Feels less bad especially for desert/tundra start.
  Goddess of Renewal
  -- Changed +2 Science to +2 Faith on the Market
    This Pantheon might now actually stand a chance of Founding in reasonable time
    All* other Building-buffing Pantheons have +2 Faith on that Building

Building Changes
  Stoneworks (feat. Arena)
  -- Moved +1 Culture from Arena to Stoneworks
    Arena is super strong, while Stoneworks is often skipped without a relevant Monopoly
  -- Removed nearby resource requirements from Stoneworks
    Other Ancient Buildings like Herbalist and Smokehouse don't do this, it should go
    Can also lead to weird things where you get Stone beyond the working radius and this suddenly pops up in your City,
      even though it won't really give you any yields if you build it...

  Caravansary
  -- +1 Food and Gold to Marsh tiles
    Marshes are a 4 yield tile with Herbalist, but the Marsh start (Sugar, Bananas) does not reward you from removing them
    This makes Marsh start better while maintaining its unique delay-improvement, rush building playstyle
    And possibly even extends it to Marsh Truffles start (since Caravansary boosts Truffles)
    Caravansary is also a fairly niche building for many starts, this broadens its usefulness

  Garden
  -- Added 2 Tourism to Lake Tiles
    Lakes don't get a boost for a long time and are a pretty naff 6 yield tile until Windmill
    Early Tourism won't break the game, but does give an interesting edge to a Civ with many Lakes
    (Also fixed strategy text, was incorrect in base VP)

  Windmill (feat. Agribusiness)
  -- Removed +1 Food to Granary (!) and Grocer
    For tiny yields this is a waste of text
  -- Added flat +2 Food
  -- Lowered Marsh bonus to +1/+1
    This is to prepare for other changes to Marsh. Currently they are useless even with this so don't worry.
  -- Added +1 Production/+1 Gold to Farms
    In many cases Farms are useless at this point in the game. Feels bad to me.
  -- Lowered Farm boost to +1/+1 on Agribusiness
    Same overall power as before with Windmill, avoid inflation
  -- Did not change Danish Andel. UB

  Zoo
  -- Gains +1 Culture to Camp
    Camps on Forests are ok, but Bison on Plains for example become fairly worthless
    Culture on Tiles will convert to Tourism
  -- Added +1 Culture/+1 Tourism to Camp on Spanish Bull Ring 4UC
  -- Zoo loses +2 Culture
    We want to avoid big yield inflation, especially in Culture
    Circus and Stadium don't give Culture (now neither does Arena)
  -- Loses Historic Event on Trade Routes
    In the wrong building line and really doesn't fit. See Hotel below

  Public School and Broadcast Tower
  -- Public School Scaler lowered to +1 Science per 4 Citizens (from 2)
    Science in the late game is too high and this scaler I think bears a lot of the blame, it is very high
    for such a valuable yield and only gets stronger as Cities grow.
  -- Broadcast Tower scaler lowered to +1/+1 Culture/Tourism per 4 Citizens (from 2)
    With a longer game Culture levels will be too high so this is lowered accordingly

  Factory
    Removed +2 Production all other Factories
      This bonus can get out of control in certain circumstances -- every City working Processes 80% of the time
    Added +2 Production to all Factories to Refinery
      This delays the bonus and caps it at 5 Cities, preventing runaway.

  Hotel
    I *hate* how these are only for niche Cities, and even then they are bad at their job
    I don't want to make them `build everywhere', but increase the number of use cases
  -- Gains +5 Tourism from Oasis
    This is a left-behind Feature that had several building interactions in the early game
  -- Gains +1 Gold and Tourism per Mountain in the workable Tiles
    We have precious few Mountain interactions in the game
  -- Gains Historic Event on Trade Route from the Zoo
  -- Increased Culture->Tourism to 50% (from 25%)
    This is the headline new effect at this point in the game, but it is so minor
    Tests with 4UC Morocco suggest it is not even good at 33%
    -- Morocco Riad also 50% (I think it has enough else now it doesn't need a boost here too)
    -- Removed +1 Tourism at Archaeology for Maoi statues to keep same-ish output

  Aiports
    These are a key location in the modern world, yet in VP they only benefit the Military!?
  -- Airports give +1 Tourism per 3 Citizens
  -- Airport give +3 Gold and Tourism to nearby Atolls
       I want to go on Holiday so bad my dudes
       As it is not a Sea Resource it gets a bit left behind in yields by the end game
  -- +5% Yields from City Connections *in all Cities*
       Can become significant in a big empire with many destinations

Unit Changes
  War Elephants
    This unit is very weird. You can spam them if you have Ivory, unlike Horsemen, and
    Because of Move After Attacking and 16 Strength you can use them to win any early war.
    But they have to be strong...
  -- War Elephant limited to 2 active units at same time
    Precedence for this on other strong-for-their-time units
    Mimics a Resource limit
    Does not affect other elephant UUs (balance nightmare)
  -- Moved back to Mathematics
  -- CS increased to 18
  -- Feared Elephant Promotion gains +20 Hit Points
    Elephant units should feel meaty
    Keeps War Elephant strong with new limit
  -- Naga Malla CS lowered to 28 (same as base unit)
  -- Naresuan's Elephant CS lowered to 24 (same as base unit)

Terrain
  Atolls
    For some reason their Feature map effects were removed
    They are the only real thing on Coast Tiles (outside Natural Wonders), so they should do something to make the map more tactical for naval combat
  -- Requires 3 Moves (up from 1)
  -- Has SeeThrough = 1, blocks sight like a Forest
  -- Has +25% Defense bonus, same as Forest

  Desert
    +1 Production to Flatland Desert tiles
      symmetrising with Tundra and making it like all previous Civ installments.
      getting Desert Incense is so sad right now...

Improvements
  Work Boats removed

  Fishing Boats
    -- Moved the production on every resource to the base improvement
      This is more readable in the civilopedia
      But it won't play nice with More Resources so... :( have clearly marked in file
    -- Can be built by Workers
    -- 7 turns like other basic improvements
    -- Currently not destroyed if pillaged, but not a great pillage animation

  Offshore Platforms
    -- Can be built by Workers
    -- 9 turns like the Well
    -- Currently not destroyed if pillaged

  Bananas
  -- Plantation improvement now gives 2 Food (down from 3), but 1 Science (up from 0)
    This means that it is no longer awkward to improve Jungle Banana because you lose the Science from University
    It's lame to see Banana and think "I wish that wasn't there so I could build a lumbermill"

Civ Balance
Changes to perceived problematic components
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Siam
  -- The Capital spawns a source of Ivory underneath
    I keep seeing Siam get wrecked in the early game. This small change guarantees War Elephants, and is a nod to their "white elephant" lore. War Elephants upgrade to their UU Elephant, which is also cute.
    We note that AI Siam seems to be good at winning. Flavors or UA? Both?

Netherlands
  I think this UA is pretty broken. In my test it was providing double my base culture in the medieval on a large pangaea map.
  -- No longer receive Culture for importing/exporting Luxuries. Gold increased to +4
   The Gold effectively functions as a discount to buying peoples' stuff -- which can get you monopolies!
  -- +1 Gold and Culture from all Luxuries
   Doesn't era scale but maintains some early culture and excess gold from having luxuries. You don't even have to connect them, so try to pull off something interesting!

Mongolia
  Changed up the economic bonuses of the civ (especially in light of Authority rework above)
  -- UA: No longer receives extra Yields from Tribute
   Issue here with very early Faith makes them a Religious civ, but on discussion people felt they shouldn't be, so here we are.
  -- +1 Faith on Ger now +1 Gold
   As above. Gold help pay for your early army
  -- UA: Gain +1 Food, Culture, Border Growth, and GG Point from Horses
   Other than militaristically, significant Horse culture of Mongolia was not represented (which remains to the present day)
   I tried many UA options. This one I liked because of the above flavor, and because GG points mean more Ordo, and Ordo are great!
  -- UA: Name changed to "Khiimori", which means Wind Horse: an east Asian concept equivalent to the soul

Brazil
  Implemented the possible upcoming 4UC change at the request of the one they call "Mark"
    New Building - Embrapa (replaces Research Lab)
    available at Plastics
    2000 :c5production: Production Cost
    7 Gold Maintenance
    +4 :c5science: Science, +2 :tourism: Tourism, +2 :c5gold: Gold
    +4 :c5science: Science from Oil, Aluminium, Uranium, and Academies
    +2 :c5science: Science, :c5culture: Culture, and :c5gold: Gold from Brazilwood Camps, Pastures, Banana/Rice/Maize/Wheat
    +1 :c5science: and :tourism: from Forest and Jungle tiles
    5% of :c5food: Food in the City becomes :tourism: Tourism
    +4 :c5science: Science from Hospital, Factory, Medical Lab
    33% Great Scientist Rate
    1 Scientist Slot
    -1 :c5unhappy: Unhappiness from Illiteracy
 

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Spy Points Redesign -- Mostly Not Yet Implemented (playable parts in green)
I need to negotiate @axatin 's retainer (I will denote DLL changes with a :badcomp:) but here's what I'm thinking

Spy acquisition has been moved to this :espionage: Spy Point system, which addresses map scaling concerns -- fewer cities mean you need fewer spies.
Edit: It might be nice to have the denominator exposed in the Worlds table
However the source of Spy Point remains the same as it always has -- technological advance.
I don't like this for two reasons
1) Spies arrive without you doing anything, making it feel uninteractive. You're given them even if you don't really want them.
2) It leads to a situation where, by the end of the game, everyone has a huge number of spies that are absolutely everywhere.

The core changes I would make are,
-- Spies are no longer gained from Era advance (yours or anyone else's):badcomp:
-- 100 :espionage: Spy Points on the three Diplomatic NWs: Scrivener's Office, Printing Press, and Foreign Bureau
(n.b. and the National Intelligence Agency, which already has 100 points)
These are your "core spies" that have minor investment to obtain. You can beeline them or you will get them in time.
-- No Network Point reduction for not everyone having spies :badcomp:
Since you can delay your spies this has to go. If England Change goes through you wouldn't need it anyway.
-- New Great Diplomat mission: Expend for 50 :espionage: Spy Points :badcomp:
A big change that allows you to actively target obtaining Spies, at the cost of more direct CS benefit
At this stage I'm not suggesting removing Embassies, but I do wonder if they are really necessary

and to support the new spies -- by which I mean reward the player for investing in getting more Spies, and enabling that choice -- I would make the following Building changes,
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(Note these yields will have to be increased when the number of spies is culled)
-- Add :c5gold: :tourism: for Rigging City States to the Printing Press and Foreign Bureau ("tall")
-- Add :c5production: :c5culture: for offensive Spy Missions to the Constabulary and the Police Station ("wide")

Yield from offense is much better than defense because you control it. Any yield from defense should be very niche tech later in the game (i.e. Ideologies)
-- Rename Printing Press to State Treasury (moving name and icon from Tradition as above) and move to Banking
Move White Tower to State Treasury replacement on Civil Service (from Ironworks and Machinery) and mutatis mutandis
-- Use the Printing Press icon on a new Building called a Printing House that lets you work another Civil Servant to target Spy generation

Unlocked on Printing Press
500 :c5production: Cost, 4 :c5gold: Gold maintenance (T1 Renaissance costs)
1 :gp: Civil Servant Slot
:c5science:Science for offensive Spy Missions
Literacy Promotion (from Printing Press)
+1 :c5gold: Gold for every :c5citystate: Friend
+1 :c5science: Science for every :c5citystate: Ally
_ Not going to suggest it as part of this but Chinese Paper Maker could make a comeback as Printing House replacement.
Maybe we could get non-100-multiplier Spy Points on Buildings. :badcomp:
So you could get 20 Spy Points per City, would be an interesting alternative direction for Spies---but it has to be a unique component, not part of the base system or we go back to everyone having tons of Spies.
-- Change Police Station to Printing Press on the Statecraft Shadow Networks Policy. Drop to +2 :c5science: each since it is so much earlier.
-- Add a new Buildings called a Penitentiary that spreads the Security boost from the Constable over more time and gives an additional source of Spy Mission Yields to support new cities
Unlocked on Industrialization
1250 :c5production: Cost, 6 :c5gold: Gold maintenance
10 :espionage: City Security and +1 per 4 :c5citizen:
20 :c5food: Food and 🔮 Border Growth Points when performing a Spy Mission, scaling with Era
5% :c5war: Supply from :c5citizen: Population
-5% :c5citystate: Empire Size Modifier in this City
Workers produced in this City Work 20% Faster (new promotion not retroactive)

-- Prison is added to Colonist list of buildings (finally, Prison colony fantasy is ours)
-- Constabulary reduced to +1 :espionage: City Security per 4 :c5citizen:
-- Arsenal reduced to 5% :c5war: Supply from :c5citizen: Population

Smoother curve
-- Just for fun, new Wonder at Rifling, Chateau d'If
1000 :c5production: Base cost
Must be Coast, must have a Bastion Fort
2 :c5production:, 1 :c5culture:
2 Writer Points
100 :espionage: Spy Points
Free Prison
5% Great Diplomat from constructing Industrial Buildings and later
-- New Building which is a precursor to the Constabulary called the Jail added
Unlocked on Metal Casting
200 :c5production: Cost, 1 :c5gold: Gold maintenance

+2 :c5production: and +1 :c5gold: Gold
10 :espionage: City Security
+1 :c5production: Production and :c5gold: Gold from Quarries

-- Castle loses +1 :c5production: Production to Quarries, gains +1 :tourism: to Jail, Harbor, Constabulary
I have never liked how late and weak this Quarry boost was. Feels a bit strange on the Castle also. With this change Quarry monopoly promotes Jail, incentivizing perhaps going for this espionage investment earlier. Tourism on the Castle giving some interaction and flavor -- recall, Tourism levels increase Spy speed and Network gain!
-- For @Pipiskus, new Wonder at Guilds, Alamut Fortress
500 :c5production: Base cost
Must have nearby Mountain
1 Diplomat Point, 3 :c5strength:, 2 :c5science:, 1 :c5culture:
100 :espionage: Spy Points
40 :c5faith: from Spy Missions, scaling with Era.
+1 :c5science: and :c5faith: from Gardens, Universities, and Castles in the City
-- New Building Casino added
Unlocked on Replaceable Parts
Requires Penitentiary and Hotel
1800 :c5production: Cost, 8 :c5gold: Gold maintenance
+2 :c5gold: Gold
Receive 15 :c5gold: Gold and :c5culture: Culture when you perform a Spy Mission, scaling with Era.
Gain 20 :c5culture: Culture and :tourism: Tourism in the City when its borders expand, scaling with Era.
+6 :c5gold: Gold once Computers is discovered.
 
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Recon Rework
Recently scout units have changed to address movement concerns, but I think there are two big problemos still remaining:
1) The map is revealed too early. Your starting Pathfinder explores too much of the world by itself too soon. (There is a concomitant 'super scout' problem)
2) The Trailblazer line is required for scouting but results in a much weaker unit. This is especially a problem for an AI with a Recon-line UU.

Below I've made changes to address these two things. By making the Trailblazer line into combat promotions based on terrain, we choose two different flavors of "light infantry". The movement style and recon ability are now largely determined by the combat class and fix the identity of the units.
To give more terrain bonuses to interact with I've also added more CS interactions on things like Desert and Tundra. This also just generally improves the combat map in my opinion.
I have also added a significant number of additional promotions for Recon units, as well as changed some prereqs for existing promotions to fit accordingly with the overall endgoal.

I recommend trying Trailblazer III in combat, it's a triumph.
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Units
-- Scout Units have 2 Movement
-- Scout Units have Ignore Terrain Cost in:
  Forest
  Jungle
  Hill
  Desert
-- +2 Combat Strength to all Scout class units
-- +1 Combat Strength to all Explorer class units
-- +2 Combat Strength to all Commando class units
-- +3 Combat Strength to all Paratrooper class units

Terrain
  revert changes that simplified the combat bonuses on tiles
-- -10% Defense in Tundra and Desert
-- -15% Defense in Snow
-- +15% Defense in Marsh and Oasis
-- +10% Defense in Flood Plains

Improvements
-- +15% Defense on Town
-- +10% Defense on Village and Manufactory

Unit Promotions
  the theme here is to either negate or flip terrain effects
  first rework the Trailblazer line
  -- Trailblazer I
    +25% Attack in Forest and Jungle
    +10% Strength outside Friendly Territory
  -- Trailblazer II
    +20% Defense in Tundra and Desert
    +10% Strength outside Friendly Territory
  -- Trailblazer III
    +1 Move (on land)
    Can move after attacking
    Ignore Zone of Control

  now rework some existing promos
  -- Altitude Training (Mt. Kili promo)
    Recon units can learn with Survivalism I or Trailblazer II
    +20% Attack in Hills
    Can move through Mountains

  -- Infiltrators (+15% CS Outside, +15% against Wounded, +10% if not adjacent)
    Recon can learn with Covert II, see below

  -- Coup de Grace (+30% against enemies below half HP)
    Recon can learn with Covert II, see below

  -- Amphibious
   Now requires Sailing tech, to stop early scout pick for stupid AI
   Recon units can learn with Survivialism I or Trailblazer I

  -- Frogman
   Requires Amphibious and Railroad tech
   Loses no penalty from attacking by sea (obsolete with Amphib)
   Gains +1 Embarked Movement

  -- Commando (Commando promotion)
   Now called Tactical Retreat (couldn't civilopedia search for it!)
   Requires Railroad
   Requires Survivalism III or Trailblazer III
   Not free for Commando anymore (kept on the Kelpht)

  -- Ambush I
   Recon can learn with Surivalism II or Trailblazer II

  now add some more promotions
  -- Ski Infantry
    Requires Altitude Training
    Double Movement and no costs in Snow and Mountain
    +25% Attack in Mountain
    +30% Defense in Snow

  -- Stillwater Training
    Requires Amphibious
    +15% Attack in Marsh and Oasis
    Applies a "Venom" Plague that reduces healing for 3 turns 

  -- Sabateur I
    Requires Survivalism I or Trailblazer I and the Masonry tech (AI)
    +33% against Siege
    15 Science from Pillaging, scaling with Era

  -- Sabateur II
    +33% against Siege
    15 Science from Pillaging, scaling with Era

  -- Demolition Expert
    Requires Sabateur II and Dynamite tech
    15 AoE damage on Pillaging

  -- Covert I
    Requires Amphibious or Sabateur I
    10 Healing at start of turn in enemy territory
    +50% Attack against Fortified enemies

  -- Covert II
    10 Healing at start of turn in enemy territory
    +50% Attack against Fortified enemies

  -- Surprise Attack
    Requires Covert II and Dynamite
    +50% Attack against Full Health Units

New Buildings
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Using some building ideas from this modmod:
and adding some more of my own, with inspiration from The Gang over on discord
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New Buildings
  It's been noted that later in the game there are slightly too few buildings, let's start to address that
 
  Grocer->Apothecary (Chemistry)
  -- Food carried over lowered to 10%
    see building below
  -- +1 Faith
  -- 25% Faith ourpute as instant yield on Citizen Birth
    this is now a third +Faith building.
    only having 2 was getting limiting for UC. E.g. we can move Bimaristan here
  -- 1 Poverty reduction removed
    see building below; this one already has +1 Happiness
  -- +1 Science and Faith from Marshes
    this puts them at 8 yields, still lower than improved resources but still decent

  Sewer (Steam Power)
    sits between Grocer and Hospital in the growth line
  -- +1 Science
  -- 50% Food output as instant yield on Citizen Birth
  -- 10% Food carried over on Citizen Birth
  -- +1 Food and +1 Science on Lake
  -- +2 Science on Marsh
    even with Windmill these tiles were bad for Industrial+
  -- +1 Production from River tiles
    not enough pro-River bonuses for my liking. Helps pay for construction cost.
  -- 1 Poverty reduction

  General Post Office (Military Science)
    This is a National Wonder
  -- Requires a Coaling Station
  -- 100 Spy Points
  -- 1 Civil Servant slot and Great Person Point per turn
  -- +1 Production, Gold, and Tourism to Civil Servants in the City
  -- Grants a Free Post Office
  -- +5 City Security in all Cities
  -- +10% City Connection yields in all Cities
  -- +2 Tourism for City State Friend, +2 Food and Tourism for City State Ally

  Sorting Office (Combustion)
    sits between Hotel and Airport in the (new) trade line
  -- +2 Tourism and 5 City Security
  -- +3 Gold to Land Trade Routes
  -- +3/+3 to City and Owner for incoming Trade Routes
  -- +20% City Connection yields locally
  -- 30% of Investments and Purchases converted into Border Growth Points

  Restaurant (Electricity)
    sits between Zoo and Stadium in the instant yield line
  -- +2 Food and +1 Culture
  -- +400 Gold when Built
  -- 5% of Food converted to Culture
  -- +2 Gold and Tourism from Hotel, Agribusiness, and Marina in the City
    none of these are essential/guaranteed
  -- 1 Urbanization reduction

  ------ Three mutually exclusive buildings -----
  Country Club (Atomic Theory)
  -- Requires Hotel and Stock Exchange, exclusive with Ski Resort and Marina
  -- +2 Gold and Culture
  -- +2 Gold and Culture from Villages, Towns, and Lakes
  -- 5% Gold converted to Culture
  -- 1 Urbanization reduction

  Ski Resort (Rocketry)
  -- Requires Hotel and nearby Mountain, exclusive with Country Club and Marina
  -- +5 Border Growth
  -- +5 Gold, Culture, and Tourism per 2 Mountains
  -- 20% of Tourism converted to Gold
  -- 1 Urbanization reduction

  Marina (Refrigeration)
  -- Requires Hotel and Seaport, exclusive with Ski Resort and Country Club
  -- +3 Food
  -- +1 Gold, Culture, and Tourism from Coast (not Ocean)
  -- +2 Gold, Culture, and Tourism from Atolls
  -- 20% of Tourism converted to Gold
  -- 1 Urbanization reduction
  --------------------------------------
 
  Supermarket (Refrigeration)
  -- Requires Hospital and Industrial Connection
  -- +4 Food
  -- Converts 25% Gold Purchases to Food
  -- +50% City Connection Yields
    Lowered from 200% because we have Airports now (and it affects Production!)
  -- 1 Urbanization reduction
  -- Internal Routes get +10 Food
 
  Hospital has Urbanization removed (down from 2) to conserve total amount available
    was already a very strong building and you can get free ones with Universal Healthcare

  Pipeline (Combined Arms)
  -- Requires Factory and Industrial Connection
    Factory req. means you need to spend a Coal
  -- +2 Science
  -- 20 Production and Science on border expand, scaling with Era
  -- +50% City Connection Yields
  -- Internal Routes get +6 Production
  -- +2 Production, Gold, and Border Growth Points for all Oil in the Empire
    This is an Interpretive Centre-style bonus for Oil that will hopefully make even "colony cities" worth it
    Though you have a bit of work to get it online!

  Ice Station (Nuclear Fission)
  -- Requires adjacent Snow tile
  -- +5 Food and Science
  -- 5% Science in *all Cities*
    You can read this as Snow Cities being free from the empire cost scaler on tech costs
  -- +3 Science from Snow tiles
  -- +1 Science from Sea tiles
 
  Arcade (Computers)
  -- +2 Gold, Science, and Culture, with another +8 at The Internet
  -- 35 Science on new Citizen Birth, scaling with Era
  -- 100 Culture on Tech unlock, scaling with Era
  -- *No* Unhappiness from Boredom
    intended to be a building that lets Science civs delay Cultural Dominance over themselves

  Mass Transit (Electronics)
  -- +3 Production and Tourism
  -- +20% All Yields output as instant boost on new Citizen Birth
  -- +10 Food to all Power Plants
  -- -1 Poverty
  -- Required 2 Iron and an Industrial Connection
    Intended to be a greedy building for the late game. Risky if you might need the Iron.

  Police Station moved to Radar

  Nightclub (Telecom)
  -- +3 Gold and Culture
  -- 750 Tourism when built
  -- 200% Tourism output as instant boost on new Citizen Birth
    combo with Supermarket and Food focus for the final burst of Tourism before the end
  -- 50 Tourism from Spy Action (with Spy Rework module)
  -- 1 Urbanization reduction

  Interpretive Centre moved to Satellites

  Missile Silo (Advanced Ballistics)
  -- Requires Military Base and 1 Aluminium
  -- 25% City Attack (not strength)
  -- +1 Attack Range
  -- 1 Free Guided Missile
  -- +100% Production to Missiles

  Industrial Estate (Mobile Tactics)
  -- +6 Food and +4 Production
  -- 15% of Investments and Purchases converted into Production and Border Growth Points
  -- +8 to Land and Sea Trade Routes
  -- +8/+8 to City and Owner for incoming Trade Routes
  -- +12/+12 Internal Route yields
  -- Requires Industrial Connection

Ideology Balance
After working on Devotion Ideology (and a soon-to-be released second Ideology, stay posted), I have thought a lot about the Ideological Tenets. Like Corporations, they haven't been subject to as much balance scrutiny because of how late in the game they come online. Indeed because of how skewed things can get at that point, it is difficult to have an objective opinion about these things. Still, I think it is clear that some Tenets are just a bit garbage, and that the thematic focus of the trees--while clear in intent--is not always delivered on even by the tenets that are reasonably strong. Here are my suggestions,
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Order
  Overall probably the best ideology in base VP
  The "pure wide" is naturally great fun to play
  However some of the tenets are pretty dead weight

  Dictatorship of the Proletariat
  -- increased to +8 (from 7)
    8 is a lucky number

  Resettlement
  -- Free pop increased to +6
    Considering how late we are, +3 pop is quite small, make it meaningful
  -- +2 instant pop removed
    How does this even work, lol? People ex nihilo. Anyway I want to move it
  -- +10 Food from City Connections
    I am thinking particularly of the snow city. Good science yields but no growth
    Since historically this was what they did, makes great sense to enable here!

  Great Leap Forward
  -- Renamed to Atomic Spies
    Calling something GLF when it is meant to benefit you is a bit lolz
    In spirit this is really a 5 year plan anyway, and we have that
  -- +1 Science per 3 non-Specialists removed
  -- Free Atomic Bomb
    Here is where I would put my Fuchs ;)

  Cultural Revoltution
    Name dodgy for same reasons as GLF, but ok, need some Chinese representation
    100 flowers campaign also no bueno...
    I should read less Wild Swans? Could have "Struggle Meetings" but still dodgy :(
    -- Gains +1 Science *and Culture* from every *4* non-Specialist Citizens
      makes way more sense here, I think
    -- +1 Happiness from Factories changed to +5 from Refineries
      we already have wide happiness on Public School earlier.
      This is a more varied version that fits better with Chinese communism (GLF)
    -- +25% Tourism against less Happy changed to +25% Tourism against other Order civs
      there's a strong chance you aren't more happy, this is moved from T3 to make room
      feels very Warsaw pact, but also the way Maoism influenced other nations and the effect that had on the Soviet Union.
      In the words of Judy Dench, "Christ, I miss the Cold War"

  Academy of Sciences
    -- Removed +2 Science from Research Labs
      Not my idea of a good time.
    -- Gain +6 Tourism from City Connections
      There is only 1 culture victory T2 tenet but 3 science ones
      This reflects the scientific communities that developed in the Warsaw pact countries
      which, in many fields, outpaced the west and had great international relations

  Iron Curtain
    -- +5/+5 Production/Gold from City Connections changed to +4 to All Yields
      Note: if you don't know "All Yields" is the first 6, Food--Faith
      This is more befitting a T3 Ideology Tenet powerlevel, the ultimate wide bonus

  Social Realism
    -- Shared Ideology +25% modified removed
    -- Tourism reduction per extra City reduced by flat 3% each
      How do you do wide Tourism when this penalty exists
      (and since recent congress, goes to 100% instead of capping at 90)?
      Use this column! Currently it's at 5%? So this is now 2%

  Spaceflight Pioneers
    -- No change, just fixed strange wording... *Order* :D

Autocracy
  Overall want to make a bit more distinct from Order
  So more tall than wide, with yields for fighting and less from annexing

  Syndicalism
  -- Name changed to Third Position
    makes way more sense to name it like this lol

  New World Order
  -- Name semi-reverted to Secure Borders

  Third Alternative
  -- Name changed to New Order
    This is the economic/social revolution tenet
  -- Strategic increased reduced to 50%
    double was a bit too trivialising
  -- Cities generate 2% Culture and Gold per Great Work (caps at 20%)
    loot the world, have a party
 
  Lebensraum
  -- Citadel radius boost removed
    Nightmare balancing this, let's just not
  -- Gain 300% CS as Border Growth Points on Kill
    Should be fun.

  Police State
  -- Construction speed bonuses removed
    too close to Secure Borders
  -- City Security boost removed
    You are not going for science victory, and more fun to benefit from your own spies
  -- Happiness changed to Police Station from Courthouse
    idea is to have a bit more puppet/tall in Autocracy, more wide in Order
  -- 3% Production in Capital for every 100 Spy Points (capping at 30%)
    Better spy bonus for tall and militaristic
  -- Yield Penalty in Puppets reduced by -25%

  Cult of Personality
  -- Warscore mechanic removed
    incentivises not signing a peace treaty (though you want the historic event)
    AI doesnt understand this
  -- Gain 150% CS as Tourism on Kill
    now we are cooking on gas!

Freedom
  Many of these a just a bit weak. This is clearly trying to be the ideology for "pure tall"
  So lets add some more stuff to do that!

  Covert Action
  -- extra network points removed
  -- +3% Gold in the Capital for every 100 Spy Points (caps at 30%)
    FlamingCheesePie change I really like.
    More interesting to have this really focussed on city states and less offensive
    Economic benefit for tall with spies already exists in Statecraft but this supports it

  Universal Suffrage
  -- 1 Happiness in all Cities removed
    lame bonus
  -- 1 Happiness in the Capital for every 3 Policies adopted
    super tall support

  Economic Union
  -- 6 Gold from trading with Freedom Civs removed
    dont make me laugh!
  -- 5 Free Stock Exchanges
    Good synergy with tree, limit also favours tall
  -- 10% more Tourism from Open Borders and Trade Routes
    More varied Cultural victory support
  -- 2 Trade Routes reduced to 1
    balance power budget

  Creative Expression
  -- renamed Freedom of Speech
  -- Tourism and GAP bonus to cultural buildings line removed
    this was a wide bonus with most buildings already constructed...
  -- Cities gain +4% science for every Great Work (caps at 20%)
    [Assumes you are using the module that removes this from Rationalism]
    This is one of the ultimate tall bonuses and the culture-science synergy is super cool!
    Have to be careful about +% science elsewhere, see Space Procurement.

  New Deal
  -- Cities generate +10% Gold and Tourism during WLTKD
    Effect on GPTI is good but just too weak for a T2 tenet

  Universal Healthcare
  -- 100 Food in the Capital when you expend a GP, scaling with Era
    Again cool effects but a bit weak for T2 when many Hospital already built
    This is another super tall bonus

  Media Culture
  -- renamed Public Broadcasting
    Bit negative for the Social Democracy tree. Might make a comeback in Prosperity one day
  -- Stadium bonuses removed
  -- Broadcast Tower bonuses are now +10% Culture and Tourism
  -- +10% Culture and Tourism from Golden Ages
    Given the Golden Age synergy of pure tall, this is a great capstone trait
  -- +20% Tourism to Civs with less Happiness
    Given the way the tree should be played, you should get this vs everyone!

  Space Procurement
  -- removed 20% Science from Spaceship Factory
    comes very late and we have the strong Great Work boost earlier, now
  -- +400% Science from Trade Routes
    interesting bonus. you are tech leader but with culture or diplomatic bonuses
    your trade routes still get some science so this still works well!
    peace or defend your routes is more active gameplay. if 5x is too high/low tbd
 
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-- Increased Culture->Tourism to 50% (from 25%) This is the headline new effect at this point in the game, but it is so minor Tests with 4UC Morocco suggest it is not even good at 33% -- Morocco Riad also 50% (I think it has enough else now it doesn't need a boost here too)
*laughs in Polynesian*
-- Feared Elephant Promotion gains +20 Hit Points Elephant units should feel meaty Keeps War Elephant strong with new limit
And then they drop dead when upgraded with 10 HP left.
 
*laughs in Polynesian*
You are right, will have to nerf Polynesian Culture

And then they drop dead when upgraded with 10 HP left.
So be it. 🔪🐘
No, that's an unfortunate ordering. Perhaps we should look at how the upgrade code works so that the unit you end up with cannot have less HP.
Of course there is also the more general argument about upgrades -- should damaged units be allowed to upgrade? I think I would prefer not.
 
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@hokath As I was recently pissed off by the crazy corporations I decided to rework them for my own purposes. Firstly of course reporting a bug for 2Kay happiness on github only to find out it's "intentional". Truly shocking... Let it be known my current game goes at huge map and standard speed. I have 26 cities so I get: 130 unhappiness reduction (26 per need) in every city and -130% empire size modifier thus making unhappiness non-existant and at the same time elevating my yields through the roof way up to the moon and well past it.
Your proposal goes into a good direction: "bonus nerfing" yet imho still making almost every corp monothematical. I myself would choose a different approach: main and secondary bonuses.
I will focus on existing corps only.

1. Trader Sid's (currently focuses on gold) ==> change into main: gold and secondary: culture
1.1 HQ
a) +3 Gold to Caravansaries and Markets ==> +1 Culture to Caravansaries and +2 Culture to Markets
b) +100% land Trade Route range ==> no change (or remove)
1.2 Office
a) +4 Gold for every Global Franchise ==> +3 Gold for every Global Franchise
b) Trading with a Franchise gives +25% Gold from Trade Routes ==> Trading with a Franchise gives +5% Culture in origin city
c) Trade Routes to this city produce +2 gold ==> remove
1.3 Franchise
a) no changes

2. Centaurus Extractors (currently focuses on production) ==> change into main: production and secondary:science

2.1 HQ
a) +2 Production to Harbors and Seaports ==> +1 Science to Harbors and +2 Science to Seaports
b) +100% sea Trade Route range ==> +50% sea Trade Route range (or remove)
2.2 Office
a) +3 Production for every Global Franchise ==> +2 Production for every Global Franchise
b) +1 Production to sea tiles ==> no change
c) Trading with a Franchise gives +10% Science in origin city ==> Trading with a Franchise gives +5% Science in origin city
2.3 Franchise
a) no changes

3. Hexxon Refinery (currently focuses on unit production) ==> change into main: extra resources and secondary: unit production/gold

3.1 HQ
a) +15% Production for all Units that require Oil, Uranium, or Aluminum to build ==> can build 2 extra Refineries
b) +3 Production on all Hydro, Wind, Nuclear, and Solar Plants ==> +6 Production and Gold on all Hydro, Wind, Nuclear, and Solar Plants
3.2 Office
a) +1 Oil and Coal for every three Global Franchises ==> +2 Oil and Coal for every five Global Franchises
b) +15% Production towards Military Units ==> no change
c) Trading with a Franchise gives +10% Production in origin city ==> Trading with a Franchise gives +5% Gold in origin city
3.3 Franchise
a) no change

4. Giorgio Armeier (currently focuses on culture) ==> change into main: culture and secondary: gold

4.1 HQ
a) +2 Culture to Museums and Opera Houses ==> +1 Culture to Museums and Opera Houses
b) +2 Culture to Writers, Artists and Musicians ==> +1 Gold and Culture to Writers, Artists and Musicians
4.2 Office
a) +2 Culture for every Global Franchise ==> +1 Culture for every Global Franchise
b) -1 unhappiness from Illiteracy and Boredom ==> remove
c) Trading with a Franchise gives +10% Culture in origin city ==> Trading with a Franchise gives +5% Gold in origin city
4.3 Franchise
a) no changes

5. Firaxite Materials (currently focuses on science) ==> change into main: science and secondary: production

5.1 HQ
a) +3 Science to Factories and Universities ==> +2 Science to Factories and +2 Production to Universities
b) trade routes can't be plundered (unless by a war participant) ==> remove
5.2 Office
a) +2 Science for every Global Franchise ==> +1 Science for every Global Franchise
b) +20% Production when constructing Buildings ==> +15% Production when constructing Buildings
c) Trading with a Franchise gives +50% Science from Trade Routes ==> no change
5.3 Franchise
a) no change

6. 2Kay Foods (currently focuses on food production as well as unhappiness genocide) ==> change into main: food and secondary: unhappiness reduction

6.1 HQ
a) Trade Units remove fog of war ==> remove
b) +3 Food to Grocers, Agribusinesses and Hospitals ==> +3 Food to Grocers, +2 Food to Agribusinesses and +1 Food to Hospitals
6.2 Office
a) +3 Food for every Global Franchise ==> +2 Food for every Global Franchise
b) -5% empire size modifier globally ==> -15% empire size modifier locally
c) -1 Unhappiness to all needs globally ==> -1 Unhappiness to all needs locally
d) +10% Food in the city ==> no change
e) Trading with a Franchise produces +10% Food in origin city ==> Trading with a Franchise gives -2 Unhappiness to all needs in origin city
6.3 Franchise
a) no change

7.Civilized Jewelers (currently focuses on great people and golden age with some gold) ==> no change but nerf

7.1 HQ
a) +100% trade unit speed ==> remove
b) +4 Golden Age points to Custom Houses and Banks ==> +2 GAP to Custom Houses and Banks
7.2 Office
a) +3% Golden Age lenght per office ==> +1% Golden Age lenght per office
b) +15% Great Person points in a city ==> +10% Great Person points in a city
c) +10% Great Person points per franchise ==> +1% Great Person points per franchise
d) Trading with a Franchise produces +10% Gold in origin city ==> Trading with a Franchise produces +5% Gold in origin city
7.3 Franchise
a) no change

Reasoning:

1.1.a) As a secondary bonus city would produce +3 culture instead of +6 gold with required buildings.
1.1.b) Trade route bonuses are extremely unbalanced and randomness dependant (map, resources, ingame time, etc).
1.2.a) As a nerf city would produce +75 gold (for 25 franchises) instead of 100.
1.2.b) Secondary bonus. 40 gold trade route for a city with 100 culture production would not give +10 gold but +5 culture instead.
1.2.c) Seems like a totally random buff for everyone.

2.1.a) As a secondary bonus city would produce +3 science instead of +6 production with required buildings.
2.1.b) Trade route bonuses are extremely unbalanced and randomness dependant (map, resources, ingame time, etc).
2.2.a) As a nerf city would get +50 production (for 25 franchises) instead of +75.
2.2.c) As a nerf city with 100 science production would get +5 instead of +10 science.

3.1.a) Instead of doubling down on certain units production owner would get more versatile bonus of extra resources coming from extra Refineries either to trade or use.
3.1.b) It's still insignificant but +6 production and +6 Gold is better than +3 Production only at that stage of the game.
3.2.a) Instead of +8 Oil and +8 Coal (for 25 franchises) and first one of each after 3 franchises "settled" owner would get +10 of both and first two of each after 5 franchises.
3.2.c) Secondary bonus diversity.

4.1.a) As a nerf city would produce +2 culture instead of +4 with required buildings.
4.1.b) As a secondary bonus and a nerf certain specialists would produce +1 gold instead of +1 culture.
4.2.b) Seems like a random buff to already strong corporation and boredom should be irrelevant with this corp's culture focus.
4.2.c) As a secondary bonus and a nerf trade route with franchise would give origin city with 150 gold and 100 culture +7,5 gold instead of +10 culture.

5.1.a) As a secondary bonus and a nerf Factories would produce 33% less science and Universities none but give production instead.
5.1.b) Trade route bonuses are extremely unbalanced and randomness dependant (map, resources, ingame time, etc).
5.2.a) As a nerf city would get +25 science (for 25 franchises) instead of +50.
5.2.b) Slight nerf to entire corp.

6.1.a) Trade route bonuses are extremely unbalanced and randomness dependant (map, resources, ingame time, etc).
6.1.b) As a nerf to pop growth an average +3 is changed to an average +2.
6.2.a) As a nerf city would get +50 food (for 25 franchises) instead of +75.
6.2.b) This change combined with the one below will give unhappiness mechanics a fighting chance once again.
6.2.c) This change combined with the one above will give unhappiness mechanics a fighting chance once again.
6.2.e) As a diversity and situational compensation for two nerfs above this can help manage potential unhappiness we gave a fighting chance before.

7.1.a) Trade route bonuses are extremely unbalanced and randomness dependant (map, resources, ingame time, etc). This one is particuraly bad being that good.
7.1.b) As a nerf city would produce +4 GAP instead of +8 with required buildings.
7.2.a) As a nerf empire would get +1,5 turns of Golden Age (for a 15 turns base and 10 offices) instead of 4,5 turns.
7.2.b) A small nerf to a very versatile bonus. +20 base GP points would get +2 instead of +3 bonus.
7.2.c) As a nerf city with +20 base GP points would get +25%, in this case +5 GPP, instead of +250%, in this case +50 GPP (for 25 franchises). Pretty self explanatory.
7.2.d) As a nerf city with 150 gold production would get +7,5 instead of +15 for trading with a franchise.

And most importantly - I love Community Patch with VP and appreciate all the hard work that has been put into it.
 
@hokath
Lastly: Misc Changes, Early Tree Tweaks and Industrial Policies Rework IMHO are all very good ideas. Personally I have no significant opinion about The Pikemen Rework while Spy Points Redesign seems like a total overhaul of the mechanic and may require separate discussion.
 
Firstly of course reporting a bug for 2Kay happiness on github only to find out it's "intentional". Truly shocking...
Yes, in my head the 5% Empire Modifier global makes some kind of sense -- it removes the penalty from having additional cities. But the Unhappiness from Needs? Well I guess it can't make unhappiness go below zero! :D

I decided to rework them for my own purposes.
It seems we arrived at quite a similar idea!
I perhaps nerfed a little harder -- I've taken the trade route bonus down to 3% even because in my last game I had a handy 60% science boost with 12 routes in Atomic and I felt this was too much.
You also went above +1 yield on some of the Franchises. I chose them all equal because although 1 Gold is not worth 1 Science, that's something we decide ourselves. On buildings all the yields tend to be valued equally, or at least should, in my opinion.

Your proposal goes into a good direction: "bonus nerfing" yet imho still making almost every corp monothematical. I myself would choose a different approach: main and secondary bonuses.
Honestly I was also trying to get in this secondary bonus angle, but yes I kept more on the "main" yield than you did.
So I would cite the Office changes as a good example, bold for things that aren't the "main yield" noted as an icon,
Spoiler :

Trader Sids: :c5gold:
Incoming Route +4 Gold to you, +2 Gold for them
+2% Production per CS Trade Route on Empire
Centaurus Extractors: :c5production:
+1 Production and Culture from Sea Tiles
+1 Science and Culture from Sea Resources

Inteded to promote Culture->Tourism effects
Hexxon Refinery: :c5production:
(+1 oil and coal per 3 franchises and +15% Production to Military Units)
Convert 15% Production Cost to Science on training Military Units
Giorgio Armeier: :c5culture:
+2% GPP per Franchise (moved and nerfed from Civilized Jewelers)
1 Artist Slot
Firaxite Materials: :c5science:
10% Production to Buildings (down from 20%)
10 Science when constructing a Building, scaling with Era
+8 Science on Building after discovering Electronics
TwoKay Foods: :c5food:
-2% Empire Size Modifier in all Cities (down from -5)
Note this is a global bonus and is very, very strong
-1 to all Needs locally :crazyeye:
Civilized Jewelers: :c5goldenage:
+10% Gold and Tourism during GA
I haven't tested yet this table works with Tourism yet
+1 Gold per CS friend, +2 Gold and +1 Tourism per Ally
-- also added +1 Tourism / 2 Citizens to the Airport, their building.
Need to have a longer discussion about the Airport...
Populi Medicine: :c5faith:
1 Happiness per 6 Policies adopted
15 Influence with all City-States upon construction


And I tried the same thing on the Specialist yields, and also some of the internal trade routes.
Just to note why I did this rather than a "secondary yield", I was going for effects that help pursue specific victories,
Code:
  Trader Sids: Diplomatic
  Centaurus Extractors: Spaceship and Cultural
  Hexxon Refinery: Spaceship and Domination
  Giorgio Armeier: Cultural
  Firaxite Materials: Spaceship
  TwoKay Foods: Domination
  Civilized Jewelers: Cultural and Diplomatic
  Populi Medicine: Domination and Diplomatic
and for some of these there isn't just one yield that does that (or there are multiple).
 
@hokath Since I know how hard it is to balance things out and how much work it takes I really do appreciate all your hard work. There obviously is no one correct way to do that but most important thing is to try make things as balanced as possible. The most important goal for me is to make Corporations just one more addition to the entire game that gives small buffs and provides different non-gamebreaking benefits (my "favorite" one atm is 2Kay's unhappiness genocide).

Edit: You naughty boy, last time I checked (because I didn't read all your Corps ideas before I posted mine) you had 5% set to TR bonuses not 3%... ;) I know you had because I laughed to myself both ideas are similar...
Edit2: IMHO assigning Corps to certain victory approaches is entirely wrong way to go because: different Civs have different strenghts, resources are randomly spawned and you never get to pick out of all possible Corps but the ones you have required monopoly thus bonuses provided should be slight and a bit diversified. But, again, that is just my angle to look at it.

Edit2: "naughty" typo found out in quote below :p
 
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The most important goal for me is to make Corporations just one more addition to the entire game that gives small buffs and provides different non-gamebreaking benefits (my "favorite" one atm is 2Kay's unhappiness genocide).
Yes I very much agree.

You naghty boy, last time I checked (because I didn't read all your Corps ideas before I posted mine) you had 5% set to TR bonuses not 3%... ;)
:smoke: Hot off the press. Tall Netherlands is absolutely disgusting, it turns out. Doesn't even have a science boost (unless you buy a monopoly somehow) and I smoked everyone on lvl 6 and it wasn't even close.

IMHO assigning Corps to certain victory approaches is entirely wrong way to go
Problem is Science. If you can get e.g. a Science boost then it's a science-victory auto-pick
 
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I've started playing a round today with random civ, and your Tweaks enabled, got Celts and one thing that just came up after researching metal casting - can't upgrade Pictish warriors to Billmen, tooltip says they upgrade to Pikeman.
 
I dont really get your Pikeman rework, i thought your take on this was that Pikeman is supposed to be an anti-cavarly unit but its too weak to do the job so as a result of that you decided to introduce even weaker unit but one tech earlier and making the Pikeman's strength nearly the same as Longswordsman while not requiring any strategic resources to be built, like why? Why not just buff Pikeman directly? Though i dont really believe it needs that at all, just level up those pike promotions if you want to beat horses, or suffer the consequences, its not that bad really. But with this change you need to adjust hell lot of UUs and whatnot. It doesnt worth it.

I really liked that you decided to revive spy gameplay, wanna see how it goes, though i believe that Great Diplomat should not have a separate button to get these spy points, but rather yield them when conducting diplomatic missions or building embassies so diplomat and spy gameplay could become one. Or you can make additional specialist slot in all diplomat type building(or in counter spy building) and make a new GP - The Great Spy. But its on you, do what you want.
 
So the Pikeman still exists but it is back one tier at Machinery, and is stronger.
So I did buff the Pikeman directly but created this larger gap for Knights to be dominant in. That's why the new unit is earlier (and 1 CS weaker), to stop there being a giant gap between Spearman and Pikeman.

On Spies, I dunno about Spy Specialists, I think we have enough of those.
It would be good to somehow combine the embassy mission and the spy point one, but I'm not sure how yet because as it stands there's a very limited number of embassies (which is bad imo).
 
@OneFuriousDon
In the discord Axatin is suggesting to change the AI evaluation of yields to
Code:
UPDATE Defines SET Value = 12 WHERE Name = 'AI_CITIZEN_VALUE_FOOD';
UPDATE Defines SET Value = 12 WHERE Name = 'AI_CITIZEN_VALUE_PRODUCTION';
UPDATE Defines SET Value = 8 WHERE Name = 'AI_CITIZEN_VALUE_GOLD';
UPDATE Defines SET Value = 20 WHERE Name = 'AI_CITIZEN_VALUE_SCIENCE';
UPDATE Defines SET Value = 20 WHERE Name = 'AI_CITIZEN_VALUE_CULTURE';
UPDATE Defines SET Value = 20 WHERE Name = 'AI_CITIZEN_VALUE_FAITH';
I thought it was funny because it pretty much matches your Franchise values
 
WIth the printing house existing, I think the wire service should have its second specialist slot removed
 
I'm way off the Chemistry (just entered Medieval through Theology), received Battering Ram from Militaristic CS as a gift, and I can upgrade it to Greatsword right away. Additionally, when looking at Chemistry tech the Greatsword icon is different than Tercio, but on main screen it uses Tercio icon.
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It's an incorrect pointer, as it were. Unit still points to old Tercio, not new Greatswordsman (name change was for in-game text reasons).
I forgot the battering ram exists (it is a unique unit class so it slips through).
Will fix!

Edit: New version. Battering Rams and Berserkers fixed, Wire Service slots reduced, Siam and Netherlands UA changes added.
 
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