Holy...Political Compass in Chinese!!!

plarq · Aug 21, 2007

My Translation of the Introduction said:
This is a localized of www.politicscompass.org's test of political compass, by members of Peking University BBS.

In this political compass test, there're three dimensions(instead of two in the original). Political (Authoritarian/Libertarian) ,Economic(Collectivism/Neoliberalism), Cultural(Conservativism/Liberalism).

The test questions are localized, so the result should be interpreted locally.

Questionnaire:

(Edit as Sept. 2010, questions are updated)
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(Options are "强烈反对", strongly disagree; "反对", disagree; "同意", agree; “强烈同意”, strongly agree)

1. If the mass are not educated with democratic ideas/doctrines, universal suffrage should not be given. (如果人民没有受过民主教育，他们是不应该拥有普选权的&#12290

2. Human rights above sovereignty. (人权高于主&#26435

3. Western style multi-party/bi-party system doesn't apply in China. (西方的多党制不适合中国国情&#12290

4. The government should not block information flows of a large-scale event such as earthquake, famine or epidemics, even some of the information may causes riots and mass disorder.(ie.SARS) (发生重大社会安全事件时，即使认为信息公开会导致骚乱的风险，政府仍应该开放信息传播。 )
5. Colleges and universities would better pick applicants with university-specific examinations, rather than a homogeneous nation/province wide examination. (由高校自主考试招生比全国统一考试招生更好&#12290

6. Social disorder will happen if Western style freedom of speech is applied in China. (在中国照搬西方式的言论自由会导致社会失序&#12290

7. Religious priests, monks, etc. should be allowed to preach freely outside temples, churches, mosques etc. in the public. (应该容许宗教人士在非宗教场所公开传教。 )
8. Nation wide military training should be mandatory for primary, secondary and college students. (无论中小学生或大学生，都应参加由国家统一安排的军训。 )
9. Sovereignty and territorial integrity are the supreme interests of the whole society. (国家的统一和领土完整是社会的最高利益&#12290

10. The state have obligation of sending out international aid. (国家有义务进行对外援助&#12290

11. Even if the trials and evidences are flawed, people who do commit crimes should be punished by law. (哪怕经历了违反程序规定的审讯和取证过程，确实有罪的罪犯也应被处刑&#12290

12. Current and former leaders of People's Republic of China are allowed to be depicted negatively in literature and arts. (国家领导人及开国领袖的形象可以作为文艺作品的丑化对象&#12290

13. When laws fail to deter criminal activities, people are allowed to spontaneously punish criminal offenders. (Vigilantism) (当法律未能充分制止罪恶行为时，人民群众有权自发对罪恶行为进行制裁&#12290

14. Media are allowed to speak only for a specific social group. (应当允许媒体代表某一特定阶层或利益集团发言&#12290

15. If the state power allows, China should use any means possible to protect her interests.(如果国家综合实力许可，那么中国有权为了维护自己的利益而采取任何行动&#12290

16. Allow dual-citizenship for those oversea Chinese who obtain a foreign citizenship.(应该允许中国公民同时具有外国国籍&#12290

17. If conditions allow, we should try to re-unificate Taiwan via force.(条件允许的话应该武力统一台湾&#12290

18. State should train and support athletes to win medals in international championships.(国家应当采取措施培养和支持体育健儿在各种国际比赛场合为国争光&#12290

19. Lawyers have to defend their clients with best efforts, even if they know their clients do commit crimes.(律师即使明知被辩护人的犯罪事实也应当尽力为其进行辩护&#12290

20. The western world led by US wouldn't allow or tolerate China to rise as a super-power. (以美国为首的西方国家不可能真正容许中国崛起成为一流强国&#12290

21. No blame should be laid on consensual adult sex regardless of their marital status. (两个成年人之间自愿的性行为是其自由，无论其婚姻关系为何&#12290

22. No criticism should be laid publicly (via talks, blogs, etc.) against one's own elder relatives. (不应公开谈论自己长辈的缺点&#12290

23. Confucianism is needed in a modernized China. (现代中国社会需要儒家思想&#12290

24. The value of arts is ultimately determined by preference of common people. (判断艺术作品的价值的根本标准是看是不是受到人民大众喜爱&#12290

25. State has no rights to determine the family size of indivduals, even though there's overpopulation. (即使有人口压力，国家和社会也无权干涉个人要不要孩子，要几个孩子&#12290

26. Zhou-yi (A famous ancient book of China, which is about fortune-telling and predictions, similar to astrology) can effectively explains many events. (周易八卦能够有效的解释很多事情&#12290

27. Chinese traditional/herbal medicine has better understanding of human health than modern medicine. (中国传统医学对人体健康的观念比现代主流医学更高明&#12290

28. No need to push simplification of Chinese characters. (汉字无需人为推行简化&#12290

29. Classical materials of ancient China should be used as children's elementary reading material. (应当将中国传统文化的经典作品作为儿童基础教育读物&#12290

30. I will approve consensual homosexual relationship between my child and his/her partner. (如果是出于自愿，我会认可我的孩子和同性结成伴侣关系&#12290

31. Minimal wage should be set by state. (最低工资应由国家规定&#12290

32. Few people gain most of economical growth since Deng's reform, the majority of people don't enjoy any of those benefits. (中国改革开放以来的经济发展的成果都被一小群人占有了，大多数人没得到什么好处&#12290

33. Individual interest should make way for social interests in decision of large projects. (ie.Three Gorges Dam) (在重大工程项目的决策中，个人利益应该为社会利益让路&#12290

34. It is individual liberty to waste food (浪费粮食也是个人的自由&#12290

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35. Government should intervene if food price is too high. (如果猪肉价格过高，政府应当干预&#12290

36. Higher tariff should be applied in order to protect corresponding domestic industries. (应当对国外同类产品征收高额关税来保护国内民族工业&#12290

37. Interests of state-owned enterprises are interests of the state. (国有企业的利益属于国家利益&#12290

38. Government intervention of the price of real estate is dangerous economically and socially. (试图控制房地产价格的行为会破坏经济发展&#12290

39. Education should be public funded as much as possible. (教育应当尽可能公立&#12290

40. In order to improve life standard of the poor, state welfare (money assistantships, discount of taxes and such) is the best tool. (改善低收入者生活的首要手段是国家给予财政补贴和扶持&#12290

41. Rich people should enjoy better medical care by default. (有钱人理应获得更好的医疗服务&#12290

42. People with high income should publish sources of their income. (高收入者应该公开自己的经济来源&#12290

43. People who make money via speculation (manipulate money, such as Warren Buffett) contribute less to society than people who make money via labor. (靠运作资金赚钱的人对社会的贡献比不上靠劳动赚钱的人&#12290

44. Instead of letting state-owned enterprise go bankruptcy, selling them to private owners would be better. (Privatizing) 与其让国有企业亏损破产，不如转卖给资本家&#12290

45. Monopoly that rises from natural market competition is not bad. (市场竞争中自然形成的垄断地位是无害的&#12290

46. Key industries related to national security and people's daily lives should be state controlled. (Petroleum, Telecommunication, Electricity, Aviation, Military industries etc.) (那些关系到国家安全、以及其他重要国计民生的领域，必须全部由国有企业掌控&#12290

47. The accumulation of capital comes with deprivation of average people. (资本积累的过程总是伴随着对普通劳动人民利益的伤害&#12290

48. Land should be a commodity to be owned, bought and sold by individuals. (私人应当可以拥有和买卖土地&#12290

49. Government should buy foods from peasants with a higher price to increase peasants' income. (政府应当采用较高的粮食收购价格以增加农民收入&#12290

50. Foreign capital should enjoy equal rights as native capital. (在华外国资本应享受和民族资本同样的待遇&#12290

plarq · Aug 21, 2007

Answers are:

政治坐标
Political Coordinates
+: Libertarian
-: Authoritarian

经济坐标
Economic Coordinates
+: Neoliberalism
-: Collectivism

文化坐标
Cultural Coordinates
+: Cultural liberalism, universalism
-: Cultural traditionalism, cultural nationalism
-

Tycoon101 · Aug 21, 2007

I'm really interested in taking this questionnaire. But is the first option "Strongly Agree" or "Strongly Disagree"?

Ecofarm · Aug 21, 2007

Origionally posted by OP Translation
neoliberals are elites feeding on the communist

Free market = feeding on others? Try the other way around (Marx = feeding on others, "from each his ability to each his need"). Does child slave labor = from ability to need?

I'd like to see a deciphering of the US political compass.

ps. Good luck with freedom in China.

pps. Would you support a US military overthrow of the Chinese government if it resulted in democracy?

plarq · Aug 21, 2007

Ecofarm said:
Free market = feeding on others? Try the other way around (Marx = feeding on others, "from each his ability to each his need"). Does child slave labor = from ability to need?

I'd like to see a deciphering of the US political compass.

ps. Good luck with freedom in China.

pps. Would you support a US military overthrow of the Chinese government if it resulted in democracy?

Most of Chinese economists (neo-liberals) are professionals working in government agencies and state-owned academies. Thus "feeding on communist party/tax payers".

Actual merchants/businessmen are neither free-market or collectivism. Edit: I lied. They're slightly pro-market but also whining about the fake market economy that filled with scandal and insider trading.

re: your pps: I would. But it seems impossible to me.

plarq · Aug 21, 2007

Tycoon101 said:
I'm really interested in taking this questionnaire. But is the first option "Strongly Agree" or "Strongly Disagree"?

Good question.

The most left choice is "strong disagree"

When you finish the 50th question, click on a nameless button below.

The answers (on the next line) are three scores, Political(Libertarian+), Economic(neoliberal+), Culture(liberalism+). All in (-2, +2) range.

The next chart of six graphs is the result of the test in two BBSes.

Tycoon101 · Aug 21, 2007

plarq said:
The answers (on the next line) are three scores, Political(Libertarian+), Economic(neoliberal+), Culture(liberalism+). All in (-2, +2) range.

The next chart of six graphs is the result of the test in two BBSes.

政治立场坐标（左翼<->右翼）0.4，经济立场坐标（左翼<->右翼）1.4，文化立场坐标（保守<->自由）-0.3

So...

0.4 (Chinese Libertarian)
1.4 (Neoliberal)
-0.3 (Conservatism)

Fair enough. I just need some other people to post their scores so I can have some sort of reference range.

Ecofarm · Aug 21, 2007

plarq said:
re: your pps: I would. But it seems impossible to me.

I didn't mean to be cruel or flippant with my "ps.":

ps. Good luck with freedom in China.

I feel the same way.

Sorry; our bad.

I don't mean to be presumptious in knowing what's best for you, but I recommend another Tianimen []. Perhaps the world will not forget so quickly the next time.

My cruel and unaldertarated point: there can be no political compass in the absence of political freedom.

Dann · Aug 21, 2007

plarq said:
1. If the mass are not educated with democratic ideas/doctrines, universal suffrage should not be given.

Strongly agree.

plarq said:
2. It is disappointing that economists in China are now a bunch of spokespersons of the rich elites.

Disagree.

plarq said:
3. Human rights above sovereignty.

Disagree.

plarq said:
4. No blame laid on consensual adult pre-marriage sex.

Strongly agree. It's the 21st century already fer crying out loud!

plarq said:
5. The elites take away much of the economic growth these years, the majority don't enjoy much of the benefits.

Agree, but you and I know that this can't be helped. Anyway what needs to be done is to ensure more "trickle down" effect.

plarq said:
6. The government should not block information flows of a large-scale event such as earthquake, famine or epidemics, even some of the information may causes riots and mass disorder.(ie.SARS)

Disagree but with conditions. Natural calamities, plague, disaster, huge accidents... these should indeed be made public. The benefits of releasing information will far outweigh the harm (precautions could be taken by people in case of SARS for example). What information I agree should be censored are news of riots elsewhere, sabotage, terrorist activity and the reactive military operations following that...

plarq said:
7. Social interest comes before individual interest in large projects. (ie.Three Gorges Dam)

Strongly agree.

plarq said:
8. Western style multi-party/bi-party system doesn't apply in China.

Agree. Just look at Hongkong or Taiwan where all that energy is spent in endless bickering that results in nothing. However things might change in the future. Future Chinese might just find some way to make it work. Thus I did not vote "Strongly agree".

plarq said:
9. No criticism should be laid publicly (via talks, blogs, etc.) against one's own elder relatives.

Strongly agree. It's simply bad form. Curse them in private if you wish.

plarq said:
10. It is individual liberty to waste food (and consumer goods).

Strongly disagree! :mad:

When I see these kind of people I get violent urges.

plarq said:
11. Social disorder would happen if Western style freedom of speech is applied in China.

Agree. Just look at Chinese internet forums. :lol:

plarq said:
12. Confucianism is needed in a modernized China.

Agree but we have to be selective about it. Some of it is good (civility, respect to elders, humility etc.) but some other aspects of it we can do without (blind obedience, conservatism, abuse of authority etc.)

plarq said:
13. Higher tax rate for riches (grader system) should be implanted in order to improve social justice.

Strongly agree. They can afford it anyway.

plarq said:
14. Colleges and universities would better pick applicants with university-specific examinations, rather than a homogeneous nation/province wide examination.

Agree.

plarq said:
15. Higher tariff should be applied in order to protect domestic industries.

Agree but only on specific items that indeed need protecting.

plarq said:
16. Religious priests, monks, etc. should be allowed to preach freely outside temples, churches, mosques etc. in the public.

Disagree. I feel the current set-up is good enough. If I feel like praying I can take the trip, but while walking down the street I'm free from unwelcome pestering.

plarq said:
17. Works of art aren't worthless when there're people enjoying it and buying it.

Strongly agree. Yeah I'll let my dog play with some paint and a canvas then try to sell the result.

plarq said:
18. Foreign investment must be limited, and it's growth should be monitored. No laissez-faire for foreign capitals.

Agree I guess. You never want anything going out of control.

plarq said:
19. Nation wide military training should be mandatory for primary, secondary and college students.

Strongly agree. :evil:

plarq said:
20. State-owned and collective property (village's public property etc.) should be protected prior to individual property.

Strongly agree.

plarq said:
21. Government intervention of the price of real estate is dangerous economically and socially.

Agree. And what's more, it's futile!

plarq said:
22. Sovereignty and territorial integrity have the first priority to be protected, since it is the ultimate interest of the whole society.

Strongly agree.

plarq said:
23. In order to improve life standard of the poor, state welfare (money assistantships, discount of taxes and such) is the best tool.

Agree.

plarq said:
24. The western world led by US view China as their ultimate enemy, they wouldn't allow or tolerate China to grow up to a super-power.

Agree. Because it is but the nature of states. Any nation in a position of power will never allow a weaker nation (even an ally) to catch up, much less overtake it. Of all people us Civ players should know this gospel truth!

plarq said:
25. It is individual liberty to decide his/her family size.

Agree.

plarq said:
26. Although competitions may reduce the value of the state-owned industries, they should not be specially protected. (No privilege to state-owned property)

Strongly agree. They get enough advantages already...

plarq said:
27. An official news agency should be set up to represent people's interests, and such role should be guaranteed. (Xinhua News Agency)

Agree I guess.

plarq said:
28. People with high income should publish sources of their income regularly.

Strongly disagree! How I earn my damn money is none of anybody else's gaddamn business! Not even my girlfriend or my mother!

plarq said:
29. Leaders of China could appear on the comics.

Agree. I'd love to see this. :lol:

plarq said:
30. Zhou-yi (A famous ancient book of China, which is about fortune-telling and predictions, similar to astrology) is an digest of Chinese ancestor's wisdom, which can effectively explains and predicts many events.

Agree I guess.

plarq said:
31. Robin Hood style is justified.

Strongly disagree! The nerve... :hammer:

plarq said:
32. When laws fail to deliver enough punishment to deter/stop crimes, extreme methods against crimes should be tolerated. (Lynching)

Disagree. Citizen's arrest is okay, but not summary executions.

plarq said:
33. Chinese traditional/herbal medicine has some advantages that modern medicine couldn't possibly match.

Agree.

plarq said:
34. Instead of letting state-owned or collectively owned installment go bankruptcy, selling them to private owners would be better. (Privatizing)

Strongly agree.

plarq said:
35. The state doesn't have obligation of international aid.

Agree, but in some situations there might be strategic advantages to giving such aid, while in some other instances humanitarian pressure might be so overwhelming it would simply be unthinkable not to give aid.

plarq said:
36. Key industries should be state controlled. (Petroleum, Telecommunication, Aviation, Military industries etc.)

Strongly agree.

plarq said:
37. If the state power allowed, China should use any means possible to protect her interests.

Disagree, especially if said means would result in harm to some other people or nation.

plarq said:
38. TV stations should make high-standard programs instead of pursuing rates.

Strongly agree.

plarq said:
39. The accumulation of capital is deprivation of average people.

Strongly disagree. That's just communist sloganeering. Not every boss is like those illegal brick kiln slavemasters. There are some factory owners who pay their workers decently. Decent enough that said workers can go build a house in their native village after a few years. Now is that "deprivation of average people"?

plarq said:
40. We should attack Taiwan when military strength allows, no mercy for Taiwanese.

Strongly disagree. This question is just stupid. There will be other ways in the future to reunify the land....

plarq said:
41. Using classical (Confucius, Lao Tse etc.) materials as children's books is plausible.

Strongly agree.

plarq said:
42. Even when crisis or depression happened, there should be no way back to the pre-Deng era.

Strongly agree.

plarq said:
43. Nationalized the military.

If you mean make it a true nation's army instead of a particular party's private army then hell yes Strongly Agree.

plarq said:
44. Government should buy foods from peasant with a higher price to protect agriculture.

Disagree. They would then have to sell it higher somewhere else, resulting in inflation. And where where they get the money to buy overpriced agricultural goods? Why from the taxpayers that's who. So it's ultimately pointless.

plarq said:
45. Allow dual-citizenship for those oversea Chinese who obtain a foreign citizenship.

Agree.

plarq said:
46. Homosexuals should not be discriminated or marginalized.

Agree.

plarq said:
47. No need to develop equivalents of products which are available in the world market.

Disagree. (1) You never know when that market will be cut off. (2) Your product could eventually compete with the original (3) technology spin-offs

plarq said:
48. Even if the trials and evidences are flawed, severe criminals should still receive capital punishment when the crime itself should be dealt with death penalty according to the law.

Strongly agree. Off with their heads!

plarq said:
49. Government should not intervene the price of agricultural products (reducing it).

Disagree. Food is the backbone of any society. If its prices go up then everything else goes up. Inflation results. One of the reasons for China's progress is its ridiculously cheap food. Big difference when you're spending only 10% of your income on food rather than 25%.

plarq said:
50. the state should use more fund on athletic projects, to produce more medals in international competitions.

Yeah agree I guess.

My results say:
-0.25 Authoritarianism
-0.1 Collectivism
-0.3 Conservatism
Me scared of myself. :scared:

BirraImperial · Aug 21, 2007

If someone would be so kind to help me translate my results:

Spoiler :

amadeus · Aug 21, 2007

IMPORTANT EDIT: I answered it backwards; I was thinking it was Strongly Agree first. Does this mean my scores are reversed?

Revised Scores said:
1.2
1.75
1.5

Spoiler :

So what am I?

Japanrocks12 · Aug 21, 2007

政治立场坐标（左翼<->右翼）1，经济立场坐标（左翼<->右翼）0.05，文化立场坐标（保守<->自由）0.2

what would I be?

Mango · Aug 21, 2007

He has already translated it for you guys. This is what your scores mean.

plarq said:
Good question.

The most left choice is "strong disagree"

When you finish the 50th question, click on a nameless button below.

The answers (on the next line) are three scores, Political(Libertarian+), Economic(neoliberal+), Culture(liberalism+). All in (-2, +2) range.

The next chart of six graphs is the result of the test in two BBSes.

BirraImperial · Aug 21, 2007

BirraImperial said:
If someone would be so kind to help me translate my results:

Spoiler :

政治立场坐标（左翼<->右翼）0，经济立场坐标（左翼<->右翼）0.2，文化立场坐标（保守<->自由）0.5

I Used an Online Translator to understand my results:

Spoiler :

[/QUOTE]

So, Im a dirty conservative?

plarq · Aug 21, 2007

Remember it's Political Right(Libertarian) +, Political Left(Authoritarian, remember China is a a communist party state) -; Economic Right +, Economic Left -. Cultural Conservative -, Cultural Liberal +.

plarq · Aug 21, 2007

amadeus said:
IMPORTANT EDIT: I answered it backwards; I was thinking it was Strongly Agree first. Does this mean my scores are reversed?

Spoiler :

政治立场坐标（左翼<->右翼）-1.2，经济立场坐标（左翼<->右翼）-1.75，文化立场坐标（保守<->自@由）-1.5

So what am I?

@...: Reverse your score: If you're airdropped in China, you're a political dissent, economic free-marketer and culturally westernized guy.

Edit: BirraImperial: Your score means you're a political moderate, economic slightly liberal, and culturally a bit more traditional.

Edit: Dann: I'm your reverse.

Edit: Japanrocks12: You're political dissent, economic moderate and culturally westernized if you are here.

GenMarshall · Aug 21, 2007

I have no idea what this says on what I got. I can read only a few (Then again I am studying Japanese), but anything that has Simplified Characters, I am lost:

政治立场坐标（左翼 (Left Wing) <->右翼 (Right Wing)）1.05，经济立场坐标（左翼 (Left Wing)<->右翼 (Right Wing)）0.7，文化立场坐标（保守 (Conservative) <->自由 (Liberal)）-0.1

What would I be? :confused:

Dann · Aug 21, 2007

plarq said:
Edit: Dann: I'm your reverse.

How did that happen? I counted, our answers differed in only 14 questions out of 50! You think it's because of some of my "Strongly agree" answers?

Dann · Aug 21, 2007

CivGeneral said:
I have no idea what this says on what I got. I can read only a few (Then again I am studying Japanese), but anything that has Simplified Characters, I am lost:

政治立场坐标（左翼 (Left Wing) <->右翼 (Right Wing)）1.05，经济立场坐标（左翼 (Left Wing)<->右翼 (Right Wing)）0.7，文化立场坐标（保守 (Conservative) <->自由 (Liberal)）-0.1

What would I be?

Political = a positive number = Libertarian
Economic = a positive number = Neoliberal
Cultural = a negative number = Conservative

plarq · Aug 21, 2007

Dann said:
How did that happen? I counted, our answers differed in only 14 questions out of 50! You think it's because of some of my "Strongly agree" answers?

My real answer is:

1. Agree
2. Disagree
3. Agree
4. Strong Agree
5. Disagree
6. Agree
7. Strong Disagree
8. Strong Disagree
9. Disagree
10. Strong Agree
11. Disagree
12. Disagree
13. Agree
14. Agree
15. Disagree
16. Agree
17. Agree
18. Disagree
19. Strong Disagree
20. Strong Disagree
21. Strong Agree
22. Disagree
23. Disagree
24. Disagree
25. Agree
26. Strong Agree
27. Strong Disagree
28. Strong Disagree
29. Agree
30. Strong Disagree
31. Strong Disagree
32. Strong Disagree
33. Strong Disagree
34. Strong Agree
35. Agree
36. Disagree
37. Strong Disagree
38. Disagree
39. Strong Disagree
40. Strong Disagree
41. Disagree
42. Strong Agree
43. Agree
44. Disagree
45. Strong Agree
46. Strong Agree
47. Agree
48. Strong Disagree
49. Disagree
50. Disagree

#2 is just a test

Dann, the real request I have for you is to check my translation. :evil:

Holy...Political Compass in Chinese!!!

Crazy forever

Crazy forever

Loves being STRONG

Deity

Crazy forever

Crazy forever

Loves being STRONG

Deity

Green bug

Pura Vida!

Hey now!

tired of being a man

Tasty Fruit

Pura Vida!

Crazy forever

Crazy forever

Night Elven Autarch of the Republic

Green bug

Green bug

Crazy forever

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