Pretty much a general question. I'm getting sick of people picking these two overpowered Civs and I literally don't know how to combat against them (Emperor player here). In early game, I may have a slight chance for Poland. But once they get four cities and go traidition/liberty, I just don't know what to do. For Babylon it's really hard to do anything with them. Unless I steal their GS at the start (which almost always involves me being kicked or them leaving) then I can't do much. They get to Machinery turn 49 and upgrades their units to Crossbows. It's ridiculous.