How do you like the choices of Civs?

Discussion in 'Civ3 - General Discussions' started by sourboy, Jul 20, 2003.

?

How do you like the choosen Civs?

  1. I like all the choosen Civs!

    19 vote(s)
    19.4%
  2. I like the current Civs, but there were some more deserving Civs that were left out.

    38 vote(s)
    38.8%
  3. Europe & the Middle East are too clustered - where are the So Amer, So Pacific & So African Civs?

    27 vote(s)
    27.6%
  4. I don't care, cuz they all will be under my boot in the end!

    14 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. Brewster

    Brewster stays crunchy in milk

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2003
    Messages:
    1,095
    Location:
    Victoria, Canada
    I am generally ok with the civs that made the cut and will appear in C3C, but I am a little dissapointed to see europe and the middle east so over-represented. Another african or SE asian civ might have been more appropriate.

    Then again, who am I to complain. Bring it on!!!
     
  2. MacPhisto

    MacPhisto Chieftain

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2003
    Messages:
    44
    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    Pardon my lack of knowledge, but what other SE Asia or African civs would we add?

    Frankly, I'm excited... my global empire will be even more multi-cultural! HAHAHA! :evil:
     
  3. Godking

    Godking Chieftain

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2002
    Messages:
    29
    Location:
    Detroit
    Some African civs could be Ancient Ghana, Mali, Asante and Numidia. Asian could be Tibet, Khmer, and if you consider Polinesia "Asian".... These are just of the top of my head. Do a bit of research here or at Apolyton and you will find lots that people have researched.
     
  4. khirkhib

    khirkhib Chieftain

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2003
    Messages:
    16
    Location:
    Santo Domingo
    I hope they put in the Polynesian civ.
    As sea-faring and expanionist. And a ocean realated special fighting unit that would give it a distinct advantage in earl period. It could potentially be one of the more unique civilization types especially if it tended to be a scattered island based civilization.
     
  5. Necromancer

    Necromancer Chieftain

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2003
    Messages:
    24
    Location:
    Underworld
    Since we only have one native american civ (Iroquois), I was hoping that they would put in the Sioux, but otherwise I dont really care because Ill be lookin forward to the Conquest scenarios.
     
  6. god_money

    god_money Prince

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2002
    Messages:
    430
    Location:
    Jamestown, NY.
    I dig 'em,... though I wish the Mayans were init a bit sooner than
    the third expansion. The only new civ I'm not too pleased with
    is the portugese.... Scotland, Vietnam, the Khmer(!), Sioux, or the
    Numidians would have been far more intriguing as far as
    cultural di-ver-si-fi-ca-tion goes :D
     
  7. Pangur Bán

    Pangur Bán Deconstructed

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2002
    Messages:
    9,020
    Location:
    Transtavia
    TBH, I think the choice has been poor

    I agree with the Hittites, the Inca and Portuguese.

    I do not agree with Sumer, which is already represented by Babylon (check the city list!); I do not agree with the Dutch (we don't need any more European civs, and there are more meritorious candidates! ); I do not agree with the Maya, their only achievement is to have been enigmatic, they don't have an important function on the world map and their impact on history is minimal.

    I think the Aztecs should be replaced with Mesoamerica and Babylon should be replaced with Mesopotamia. That way we won't need either the Sumerians nor the Maya; neither would we need the Assyrians, the Akkadians nor the Olmecs. :D

    I think I change my mind on this alot, but I think the new civs should be/ have been:

    Inca
    Hittites
    Portugal
    Aborigines (for their uniqueness and world map position)
    Israel (ancient)
    Ethiopia (meaning sub-saharan Africa, not simply Old Abyssinia!)
    Scotland :D

    and, if there's an eighth, then either the Khmer or the Goths. Actually, I've heard Latin America suggested somewhere as well. I kinda like that too :)
     
  8. civilleader

    civilleader Prince

    Joined:
    May 1, 2003
    Messages:
    326
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    California
    I personally can't stand the having Sumeria, Hittites in the game. Just like the Celts in PTW. My dream list would have been Poland (east Europe is empty), Khemer Empire (SE Asia), Portugal, Israel/Hebrew, Polynesia, Incan Empire, and Ethiopia. Personally I could replace the celts with a real civ that isn't going to clog up Europe, like with the Shonghai. It would be nice removing the 31 civ limit.
     
  9. Louis XXIV

    Louis XXIV Le Roi Soleil

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    13,579
    Location:
    Norfolk, VA
    I guess I'm unique

    I rarely care about space on a world map.

    Can someone tell me that some SE civ, say Siam, really contributed more to history than any of these civs in the overcrowded middle east?

    Sumer, Babylon, Persia, Ottomans, Egypt, Hittites, Arabs.

    Also I feel that Assyria, Byzantine, and Israel are better than some civilization from south-east asia or the nomadic Souix (I think choosing the Iroquois over the Souix was a great move by Firaxis, the Iroquois were a real civilization and, during its golden age, could compete with the best of the time)
     
  10. Pangur Bán

    Pangur Bán Deconstructed

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2002
    Messages:
    9,020
    Location:
    Transtavia
    The Celts were a real "civ"; much more so than the Poles! :rolleyes: ;)

    Australia and south America are empty! Central Africa is empty; South-East Asia is empty! Eastern Europe, a much smaller area, already has the Russians, the Germans and the Ottomans. :rolleyes: :)
     
  11. Novaya Havoc

    Novaya Havoc Hollerback for Catherine

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2001
    Messages:
    235
    Location:
    Chicago, IL, USA
    I think that the Civs should have been more location-oriented than "3rd-tier" civilizations.

    While I agree with the Inca, and the Dutch, I would have scrapped the other 4 in favor of:

    The Khmer
    Ethiopia
    Mali
    Polynesia/Srivijaya/"Indonesia"

    The final one would have been either contemporary Australia, or the Hebrews/Israel. If it IS Byzantium, shoot me now.

    Those sound like fun civs to play. Portugal? The Hitties? Not so much.

    -Ben
     
  12. Gen

    Gen Prince

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2002
    Messages:
    518
    Location:
    Arcanus
    Agree with all choices, except Polynesia. Problem with old, "true" civilizations like Celts is trey are root for many nations and countries which represent civs in the game.

    Portugal, Spain, France, Germany, Denmark, Poland (hopefully in c3c) etc. are hardly civilizations, just countries and nations. It's actually good and convenient, as we players can much easier identify with them.
     
  13. scotland_no1

    scotland_no1 Jimmy Hat Salesman

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2003
    Messages:
    336
    Location:
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    if we just had civilisations, then it would get boring, modern countries are good to have.

    anyway..i voted for the second option. i dont think that some of those middle east civs should be in, i never play as any middle east except ottomans (rarely). i would like to see many more improtant civs added to the game. a few people here have wanted for scotland :). they mught not be added, but many people here also dislike the celts, so maybe the celts could be deleted and scotland put in its place :)
     
  14. SoCalian

    SoCalian Deity

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2003
    Messages:
    2,901
    I agree with the Incas an that is it. The majority of the remaining civs should be modern ones. here is my list.

    Incas
    Australia
    Argentina
    Brazil
    Israel(ancient and Modern as one)
    Ethiopia
    Mali/Ghana
     
  15. SoCalian

    SoCalian Deity

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2003
    Messages:
    2,901
    But thats not all folks. some more civs I would like to see added:

    Polynesia
    Byzantium
    Khemer
    Canada
    Assyria
    Tibet
    Maya
    Souix
    Scotland
    Dutch
    some central Africain civ ( I cant think of any)
    Cuba
    Sweden
    Finland
    Texas
    California Republic (even though it only existed for a month)
    Hittites
    Poles
    Quebec
    Portugul
    Inuit
    Atlantis
    Wales
    Ireland
    Goths
    Venezuela
    Columbia
    Indonesia

    I think that balances everything out quite nicely.
     
  16. Kyborgi

    Kyborgi Warlord

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    120
    Location:
    Man-made heaven
    If we all too much civs, we run out of barbarian tribes ;)
     
  17. Xen

    Xen Magister

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2003
    Messages:
    16,004
    Location:
    Formosa
    need I say what civ I would love to be included ;)
     
  18. Xen

    Xen Magister

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2003
    Messages:
    16,004
    Location:
    Formosa
    also where is the "most of the civs were ill choosen, and suck" option?
     
  19. SoCalian

    SoCalian Deity

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2003
    Messages:
    2,901
    I think its implied Xen.
     
  20. SoCalian

    SoCalian Deity

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2003
    Messages:
    2,901
    I didn't include too many barbarian tribes.
     

Share This Page