Is it even possible when playing with large amounts of Civs? I am playing 20 or more civs in a perfect world/new world map. Recently I was able to found 4 out of the possible 6 religions and had a large majority of the world included with my state relgion. However that didn't seem to matter much at all because the AI seemed to have all spuratic and hysterical relations with all the other AI civs, and I could not find any strong ally's that I could trade with, without making some other civ angry. I would constantly get griped at every other turn by an AI leader just for having signed a simple open borders treaty with someone. I was also getting nagged to go to war ALL THE FREAKING TIME. This became a real nightmare for someone wanting a Diplomatic victory because it creates the dellima of either accepting and making the demanding civ happy while taking a negative hit with the target civ and every other civ that has postive modifier relations with that civ, or just declining and making that demanding civ angry with me. This seemed to happen constantly. And it came to the point where some Civs would demand so many timest that I could litterally make them a mortal enemy just by declining their demands because the modifier stacked so many times from doing so that I got to they hate me and worst enemy status just from that. Then there's techs. I hate giving techs away all of the time, especially if it's a war tech because I find myself constantly being betrayed by AIs I thought I was in good standings with. I'd rather keep a tech advantage so I don't get ran over by a conquering civ. I tried to gift techs and give into every single request one game, and I found myself towards the bottom of the group in techs by the renaisance era because of it and I couldn't pull myself out. This was after I had an early tech lead but gave it away because of every single Civ that asked for a tech where I gave freely hoping to help for a Diplo win. But my biggest problem is making triangle diplomacy work with so many civs in the game. No one can seem to agree on anything and no one seems to get along. This means I can't have any real trading partners because it makes all the other civs mad, but worse is that I can't seem to just live peacefully because either way somebody is getting peeved off at me for not going to war on their behalf, or actually going to war on their behalf. It seems like a no win situation. Is it even possible to win a Diplomatic victory with so many civs? How do you win a diplomatic victory? I could really use you guys' experience and advice.