How does forest growth work?

[Max Duke]

For instance, imagine we had a unit which had a unique ability of 0.4% to be randomly spawned anywhere near the forests in your empire. Would it not be OP by the same criterion you value uncontrollable up to 0.4% chance of forest regrowth? Would you count on those units to carry you through the war because of that ability? Would you even if it was 4% chance?

For us to have a chance for tree regrowth we need to leave the adjacent forest hammers intact. There is an incredible opportunity cost associated with that. How many turns does a new city need to produce 360 . How many additional hammers will that city produce if it doesn't chop? If you are working unimproved forests to get that 1, how many whips could you have done by working the farm instead? In Civ4 there are simply too many of better options than leaving the forests.

I admit there is one case in which I leave a forest or two and usually in 3rd ring. The chops for Oxford University if the capital is very strong cottage bureau and low on . Or even high on food, but low on happiness (making whipping into the OU painful). This is fairly often and it pays itself back quickly if OU gives extra 100 5T sooner.

Just chopped 2 regrown forests to build Ironworks: (90+90) + 25% Org + 25% Forge = 270


I don't rely on regrowth, but I know it will happen sooner or later.
Here's what you're missing of statistics, the 4 chances out of 100 aren't evenly distribuited along the 100 attempts: you might have immediately 4 hits in a row then 96 miss.
Perhaps I have been very lucky in this last game seeing so many regrowths. I should have counted them, should have checked them better.

 

[Snowbird]

I am very interested if these findings work well with ambitious elephants....

 

[lymond]

I am very interested if these findings work well with ambitious elephants....

Pretty sure they don’t, but I know it's quite efficient with ice archers

 

[6K Man]

Thanks for the read

 

[FlyinJohnnyL]

I am very interested if these findings work well with ambitious elephants....

I'm well aware of amphibious elephants, but I'm VERY curious about these ambitious elephants.

Hell, NOW I want "Ambitious Amphibious Elephants." I think my enemies would surrender on site.

 

[Max Duke]

I'm well aware of amphibious elephants, but I'm VERY curious about these ambitious elephants.

Hell, NOW I want "Ambitious Amphibious Elephants." I think my enemies would surrender on site.

I need TimberElephants, with Woodsman promo.

 

[Snowbird]

I'm well aware of amphibious elephants, but I'm VERY curious about these ambitious elephants.

I guess, ambitious phants are the amphibious variant just produced without chopping.

 

[Max Duke]

Still in that game I had 3 new forests within my boundaries, 1 of which in the boundaries of a city:

T875 regrowth in Jaen from 3 sides of forests of which 2 with road
T898 regrowth near Madrid from 2 sides of virgin forests
T910 regrowth (instead of jungle) from 1 side virgin forest

Given the 1/1000 chance from a 1 side forest, I think I'm lucky with the regrowth, or I would think the maths are different.
These results are telling that total chopping is wrong, again.
I stick to the idea to save forests to have a hammers reserve in case of trouble.

 

[Lennier]

And sticking to winning after T875. Game should be over or so in the bag forest regrowth doesn't matter by this point. Maybe improve your game by adopting Attacko's amphibious elephant sstrategy.

 

[Max Duke]

And sticking to winning after T875. Game should be over or so in the bag forest regrowth doesn't matter by this point. Maybe improve your game by adopting Attacko's amphibious elephant sstrategy.

I dont want to win, if not the game finishes.

 

[reflec]

Didn't think this thread would still be going on a month after posting but here we are

 

[drewisfat]

It's because I held up my end of the bargain and now no one knows what to think anymore!

Don't listen to these noobs Max Duke. Next game I won't chop any of my forests. Straight to forest preserves. Max regrowth. You'll see. You'll all see.

 

[FlyinJohnnyL]

I dont want to win, if not the game finishes.

You can keep playing after you win. Sid put that option in since the very first Civ for that very reason-he didn't want to discourage people from trying to win.

 

[Max Duke]

You can keep playing after you win. Sid put that option in since the very first Civ for that very reason-he didn't want to discourage people from trying to win.

Makes no sense to continue after win, since there is no challenge. I've just become the first in points in this game, I've not won. I dont want to win with wars now, I never declared a war, while suffered many DOW from many civs. It's been a matter of survival while keeping my economy, research and output growing. This way saving forests is helping me very much.

 

[sampsa]

Mods please. This is "Strategy & Tips" for crying out loud.