How excited are you currently about Civ7? [vol 3 - January/February 25]

How excited are you currently about Civ7? (January/February 25)

  • 0 - Not excited at all, I hate what I've seen and will certainly never buy it

    Votes: 23 7.8%
  • 1

    Votes: 19 6.5%
  • 2

    Votes: 14 4.8%
  • 3

    Votes: 15 5.1%
  • 4

    Votes: 16 5.5%
  • 5

    Votes: 14 4.8%
  • 6

    Votes: 21 7.2%
  • 7

    Votes: 15 5.1%
  • 8

    Votes: 39 13.3%
  • 9

    Votes: 39 13.3%
  • 10 - Super excited, I love everything I've seen so far and have already pre-ordered

    Votes: 78 26.6%

  • Total voters
    293
I was a bit lower before, but I think I'm up to a 9 now. I've seen enough in the previews that the game looks like it should be good. Still have to decide my pre-order option, but otherwise, I think I'm getting antsy to get my hands on it.
 
Again, just look at trend of the vote count, first votes tend to be higher than the latter votes.
Yes, and? You can call it an educated guess if you like, my personal opinion is that you're relying too much on assumption.

For example, in my personal anecdotal experience (and I've said this before), social media reactions to content about VII has been getting more and more positive. It was a lot more mixed earlier on, when less was known. The numbers r.e. engagement haven't exactly shifted much either, and the reactions -> comments ratio has actually gone up in favour of reactions (as common truth holds, dissatisfied folks are more likely to post their feedback as to why, in the hope it changes - again, an assumption from me there :D).
 
Yes, and? You can call it an educated guess if you like, my personal opinion is that you're relying too much on assumption.

For example, in my personal anecdotal experience (and I've said this before), social media reactions to content about VII has been getting more and more positive. It was a lot more mixed earlier on, when less was known. The numbers r.e. engagement haven't exactly shifted much either, and the reactions -> comments ratio has actually gone up in favour of reactions (as common truth holds, dissatisfied folks are more likely to post their feedback as to why, in the hope it changes - again, an assumption from me there :D).
I was just commenting on the numbers in this thread, as a reaction to this post:
So the numbers for this series of 3 polls is showing that the excitement for Civ 7 has been steadily increasing :)

1st poll: 47% selected 8-10
2nd poll: 53% selected 8-10
This poll: 57% selected 8-10

Seems like this might bode well for the release!
Concerning the social media reactions, I think the Reddit opinions are pretty diverse, and concerning the reactions on Youtube etc., it pretty much depends on which streamer you are following.
 
Concerning the social media reactions, I think the Reddit opinions are pretty diverse, and concerning the reactions on Youtube etc., it pretty much depends on which streamer you are following.
I'm basing it mainly off of reactions to the official Civilisation accounts on Facebook and Twitter. Can probably correlate the official Civ channel on YouTube as well, but I don't tend to watch their content there (I use it mostly for music, some cooking YouTubers, and the odd non-Civ content creator).

As for this thread, like I said, plenty of ways to crack the chestnut that is "people not voting". No way to actually know. If you simply want to point out the sample size is smaller, go for it. It's valid context! But you can't extrapolate further with any real degree of accuracy.
 
So the numbers for this series of 3 polls is showing that the excitement for Civ 7 has been steadily increasing :)

1st poll: 47% selected 8-10
2nd poll: 53% selected 8-10
This poll: 57% selected 8-10

Seems like this might bode well for the release!

And vote count has gone from 359 to 299 to 207. I'm guessing more of the 0-5 voters are gone than the 6-10 voters, but keep glazing it.
 
And vote count has gone from 359 to 299 to 207. I'm guessing more of the 0-5 voters are gone than the 6-10 voters, but keep glazing it.
You're still here, aren't you? :) I really don't get this line of logic:

"Everyone who hates the game is gone! (except me.)"
 
So the numbers for this series of 3 polls is showing that the excitement for Civ 7 has been steadily increasing :)

1st poll: 47% selected 8-10
2nd poll: 53% selected 8-10
This poll: 57% selected 8-10

Seems like this might bode well for the release!

I think the forum members are probably a smallish subset of players - so it is hard to draw conclusions about the wider success of the game.
Having said that, despite being disappointed myself i think the game will be a big success as it has one key ingredient- massive accessibility across platforms.
 
If people aren’t enjoying a party, then most of them leave. A few might stay and complain, but I don’t think it’s a stretch to assume that, if there is disengagement happening, that it is logical to assume dissatisfied individuals are the ones no longer visiting the site and voting.
Again, you and many others are still here, no? :) why does this principle apply to everyone but the people making the claim?

Moreover, I think the discussion in this thread shows the opposite; a good 50% of posts, give or take, are critical of the game. And given that we know it’s human nature for folks to chime in when they’re upset rather than when they’re satisfied, we can conclude that negative reception to the game is well represented, if not potentially over represented.
 
You're still here, aren't you? :) I really don't get this line of logic:

"Everyone who hates the game is gone! (except me.)"
It's because you're either attempting to strawman the argument or purposely misunderstand it. No one is saying everyone who doesn't like what they've seen has left. The logic is that if you don't like something, you're less likely to engage with it going forward. Hardly anything illogical about that.
 
It's because you're either attempting to strawman the argument or purposely misunderstand it. No one is saying everyone who doesn't like what they've seen has left. The logic is that if you don't like something, you're less likely to engage with it going forward. Hardly anything illogical about that.
Well, the logic is that if you don’t like something, you are more likely to comment. That is why business complaints are much more common than approvals from satisfied customers.

I fully expect to hear more complaints than praise or approval of anything in the business world. I think we all know that.

That, plus the fact that this “disengagement claim” in fact comes from multiple people and that criticism of the game takes up a large share of the discussion of the game here, makes me think there’s no appreciable bias due to dissatisfied people disengaging.
 
If only there was a magical tool, let’s call it Google Analytics or something equally fantastical, that could shed light on relative traffic trends on this website. Alas, no such technology exists.

All kidding aside, and because I work in public relations, I would expect a huge flood of traffic at the launch announcement, followed by a dip in the middle, and then another buildup of traffic as we approach launch, the marketing campaign from Firaxis heats up, previews and reviews, etc.
 
If only there was a magical tool, let’s call it Google Analytics or something equally fantastical, that could shed light on relative traffic trends on this website. Alas, no such technology exists.

All kidding aside, and because I work in public relations, I would expect a huge flood of traffic at the launch announcement, followed by a dip in the middle, and then another buildup of traffic as we approach launch, the marketing campaign from Firaxis heats up, previews and reviews, etc.
Yep. And in the end nothing of this matters, because the actual sales will be affected by reviews from youtube streamers and gaming journalists.
 
Yep. And in the end nothing of this matters, because the actual sales will be affected by reviews from youtube streamers and gaming journalists.
I think base game sales will be good. Civilization is a big name, many will give it a shot on that reputation alone. Where we’ll really see the reception is in user reviews and DLC sales going forward.
 
Again, you and many others are still here, no? :) why does this principle apply to everyone but the people making the claim?

Moreover, I think the discussion in this thread shows the opposite; a good 50% of posts, give or take, are critical of the game. And given that we know it’s human nature for folks to chime in when they’re upset rather than when they’re satisfied, we can conclude that negative reception to the game is well represented, if not potentially over represented.
You partly answered your own question :)

I am here because the ban on preview material from youtubers, streamers, etc. was lifted recently, which means there are many more videos about the gameplay now available.

That alone would make me think there would be more engagement from the community in regards to posting and voting
 
Well, the logic is that if you don’t like something, you are more likely to comment. That is why business complaints are much more common than approvals from satisfied customers.

I fully expect to hear more complaints than praise or approval of anything in the business world. I think we all know that.

That, plus the fact that this “disengagement claim” in fact comes from multiple people and that criticism of the game takes up a large share of the discussion of the game here, makes me think there’s no appreciable bias due to dissatisfied people disengaging.
It is indeed possible for there to be multiple logical arguments in a debate. Just because you have your logical argument doesn't make everyone else's argument illogical.

In this case, based on the evidence we've seen in these polls, we have seen a decrease in the number of votes each time. Is it a perfect measure? No. The polls have been open for varying amounts of time. But, it's the evidence we have on this site. Based on your logic, we would not expect to see this decrease.
 
That alone would make me think there would be more engagement from the community in regards to posting and voting
Definitely. I just empirically see no reason to believe there’s a bias in that engagement.
 
So the numbers for this series of 3 polls is showing that the excitement for Civ 7 has been steadily increasing :)

1st poll: 47% selected 8-10
2nd poll: 53% selected 8-10
This poll: 57% selected 8-10

Seems like this might bode well for the release!

All these polls are showing is that many of those who were critical stopped posting and/or didn't participate polling.... and that each subsequent poll has significantly less people voting
 
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