How many great people do you get in a game when running SE?

[DaveMcW]

You could also have seven golden ages, which gives 84 turns of +33%

 

[xanadux]

You could also have seven golden ages, which gives 84 turns of +33%

that's what I plan on doing with the late game GP. No reason wasting it until having many many cities with many many specialists. Will save up appopriate GP to run extended GA at the very end.

 

[stuttrboy]

You can turn off all victory conditions except conquest and have all the turns you want at wich point it's no problem getting 80 GP, just kinda boring.

 

[qwertz]

also peter of rome would be a nice combo for that game

 

[MrG]

So to conclude, its probably possible (just) to do 80 GPs in a game...

But you need to:
1) play settler
2) manipulate the civ, environment, leader and victory conditions
3) hope you don't get sidetracked with things like wars that stop you having to build wonders and so on
and
4) make NO mistakes

Sounds easy enough.

 

[qwertz]

I think you shouldn't have problems with the point 3) on settler

 

[DaveMcW]

also peter of rome would be a nice combo for that game

Peter of Russia would be better.

 

[UncleJJ]

I'm working on another one now ... I decided that I was too slow to expand the first try, and also decided that Peter may be better ... PHI/EXP for +2 health and cheap granaries. But on a rainforest map fast workers are quite awesome, so Gandhi may still be the best.

I'm also concentrating a little more on developing a quick tech pace early to get to Biology and Future Techs more quickly.

I am not sure I should be encouraging you to do this but if you're determined here are some thoughts.

I suggest you consider an archipelago map with large amounts of seafood and then beeline to Sid Sushi as the central part of your excess food strategy. With enough sea food resources that should enable many very large cities quicker than relying on farms and Biology. In many ways your cities are independent of the terrain if you use corporations to fuel your economy. A Philosophical leader, running Pacificism, Caste System, Mercantilism and Representation would seem to maximise GPP production and allow researching enough future technologies to grow very large cities. The city size can be boosted in a few favoured sites by settling GMs for extra food. That food will allow those cities to grow larger than others and hence generate the last few very expensive GPs. I guess most of your GPs should be GMs to bolster this food excess. A few other GPs could be used to start several Golden Ages but I'm not sure where the best trade off is.

 

[qwertz]

Peter of Russia would be better.

good point, I dind't think about those free scientist.
1 specialist will poduce on averge about 10/turn. So the research institute will basicly give you +20/turn in each city. The forum will give you +0.75/speilaist and turn. That means you must have 27 specialist/city so that the form can overtake the research institute. This might be a bit too optimistic, but the forums come much earlyer so you get more in the first part of the game and it also boosts the effect of the wonders.
So it is still discussable which one would be better.

 

[oyzar]

On settler you would get labs in the BC's...

 

[qwertz]

i'm not that sure on that, the tech cost on settler is e.g. 50% of the cost on emperor, but on higher levels you can easily increase the value of the techs by tech traiding. so finaly the effects might cancel each other out

 

[xanadux]

Rain forest is also good for Sid's ... rice is everywhere

 

[xanadux]

I'm thinking 80 is going to be possible. I am at about 300 AD right now playing Peter, and on epic, am about 60 turns from getting Cereal Mills, and expect to be able to get between +15 and +20 food from that. Currently in settler and worker spam mode after getting my core empire up and running. Even on Settler, 30 cities is a lot of maintenance on a standard map.

 

[UncleJJ]

If you run merchants and settle the GMs for gold the maintenance should not be a problem, I'm guessing. You might even be able to use US to set up new cities quickly, which is why I suspect Ghandi is the best leader for this attempt, the combination of Philosophical and Spiritual seems ideal. I still think a map with a lot of seafood will have more food resources for a corporation to use than a land based one.

 

[Silence101]

I'm sure that I get well over 10, but I don't think I've really ever counted.

 

[xanadux]

A water map would likely have a better corporation, but the base water tile is junk. A rainforest map has a base tile of 4 food. Land maps also allow as much production as you want.

Maintenance isn't a problem, it just can slow you down if you try to just immediately REX to 30 cities. My first attempt, I had a shrine and Angkor Wat in the capital, and ran priests constantly, settling them all, and even with no cottages, and no merchants, kept the slider at 100% even with over 20 cities and pacifism. But I decided this isn't ideal. Quick teching is too important to invest so much of the economy in gold and hammers.

 

[DaveMcW]

Rainforest has an awesome land tile count, and almost all of them are grassland.