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How many people believe in Death Panels?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Hygro, Aug 17, 2009.

  1. cardgame

    cardgame Obsessively Opposed to the Typical

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    I love how I derailed this thread into Fox News on post #2 :mischief:

    But On-Topic, I know some people in my town definitely believe whatever Fox throws out there. Incl. Death Panels.
     
  2. Munch

    Munch Benevolent Despot

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    Reminds me of this stand-up I saw recently. From 1:55 about 'in the name of "balance"'. :lol: EDIT oh and more 'balance' from 4:50.
     
  3. Death_Machine

    Death_Machine Slaytanic Warrior

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    Bullspit. Here's an LA Times link where they dutifuly try to carry the water for the Obama administration. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-health-end-of-life14-2009aug14,0,4670272.story

    They of course refute the term death panel but use the term "advance care planning" instead. Anybody who looks at this objectively and possesses half a brain can read between the lines.

    Think about it, "advance care planning" is figuring out which old people are treatable vs. those who should be euthanized instead of being a drain on the proposed rationed health care of the Obama administration.
     
  4. Bill3000

    Bill3000 OOOH NOOOOOOO! Supporter

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    No, it's not, it was voluntary counseling for end-of-life issues and care, such as the creation of living wills.

    Find it weird that you'd say they refuted it and then said that they exist in the same article.
     
  5. Death_Machine

    Death_Machine Slaytanic Warrior

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    Billiam, what I said was:

    I guess you weren't the type of reader I was talking about.
     
  6. illram

    illram Deity Retired Moderator

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    Where was the outrage and why was no one reading between the lines when Sara Palin declared April 16th "death panel day" in Alaska?
     
  7. Bill3000

    Bill3000 OOOH NOOOOOOO! Supporter

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    Well, no, because that's what it is. If you can show me how voluntary counseling on end-of-life issues leads to institutionalized euthanasia, I'm all ears. You're right though; anyone with half a brain would read it as such, and I'm not one of those people. People with full brains don't.
     
  8. Death_Machine

    Death_Machine Slaytanic Warrior

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    IDK, go ask the 20 or so people that live up there. :lol:
     
  9. ArneHD

    ArneHD Just a little bit mad

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    Ok, In the first link, first statistic. Barack Obama is apparently 58% confident.

    How did they get that?

    Edit: Ok I misread, they weren't polling the groups listed, they were polling people ABOUT the groups listed.
     
  10. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    False on all counts. Try again.
     
  11. Hygro

    Hygro soundcloud.com/hygro/

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    Probably because republican leadership is going for broke. Hail Mary, putting all their credibility in the pot knowing they have so much to gain, and right now, little to lose. They know death panels aren't real, they know euthanasia won't happen, they know old people won't even be shamed into picking a cheaper end of life option. But they also know to drive this madness means they control the news cycle, they get the moderates too uncomfortable to support Obama, get the conservatives whipped up in a faux-righteous frenzy. As Keith Olbermann (bear with me) put it
    (keep bearing with me) which means this: if the people you trust are telling you it's real, and it's that serious, it would make sense to get frenzied. The Republican base's response is actually appropriate--given the premise that they are following their leaders. But since the leaders are not just raising concern but actually and undoubtedly spreading lies and misinformation (because again the risk is low, the payout is massive), it is unfairly messing with a large segment of the population.
     
  12. potatokiosk

    potatokiosk Deity

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    RATIONING!!!:run::run::run::run::run::run::run::run::run:

    It'll be Obama's fault that we have finite resources and unlimited wants!
     
  13. Stylesjl

    Stylesjl SOS Brigade Member

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    I find it odd that someone called 'Death Machine' would be so worried about death panels
     
  14. .Shane.

    .Shane. Take it like a voter Retired Moderator

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    Wait, wait, are these Death Panels before or after I'm sent to the FEMA trailer concentration camps?
     
  15. bathsheba666

    bathsheba666 Fast 'n Bulbous

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    God forbid you have rationed health care.

    Much better that many people simply have none instead.
     
  16. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    Wait a second... FEMA camps are trailer parks now?!?!?!!? :run:
     
  17. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    Iam guess you HAVENT read the actual bill ?
    Do yourself a favour download and read the bill before comming here and clamining that you have.
     
  18. thekaje

    thekaje Godless killing machine

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    You read a 1000-page piece of legislation but can't spell either coming or claiming?

    EDIT: Oh, I guess maybe you've got Australian Rules going on.
     
  19. AngryZealot

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    Let's play "name the source".

    A: Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act of 2003 passed by the Republican congress.

    Oh noes, we already have death panels!!!11:crazyeye::crazyeye::crazyeye:
     
  20. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    Nah iam lazy ass in the morinings I just read the pages where it was clamined there would be actual death panels namely pages 625-630.
    Eating breakfast and typing a post isnt such a good habit. :lol:
     

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