How to ensure you get the right great person?

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by ironic_lettuce, May 10, 2010.

  1. ironic_lettuce

    ironic_lettuce Warlord

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    Hi everyone,

    I've started playing Civ 4 again after a hiatus, and there is something I can't quite get a grip on and would really like some advice. Basically, I'm going for a culture victory, and I'm not sure how to make sure that every great person you get is an artist in the beginning. I have a GP farm on the go, but the first GP I got was a scientist. I deliberately only built wonders in this city that had (great artist) in their name, and don't understand why the scientist came along (I had no specialists on the go either).

    I thought it was only Wonders that counted towards the GP likelihood - am I completely wrong? And if so, what are the tactics for ensuring you get an artist?

    Thanks for any info you can give.

    (I have read some of the guides on here but nothing seems to fit my particular problem.)
     
  2. robbyextreme

    robbyextreme Warlord

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    Only answer is you had a scientist in the city, with a library or other building.

    If you let the game decide what tiles to work. (Without manually doing it) then it can also select what specialist it assigns to. You might not notice it, that's why automation is.. well automation.

    Other then that I really don't know =)
     
  3. drlake

    drlake Emperor

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    I'm guessing you had a specialist working. Did the GP pop in your GP farm, or another city? If you use scientist specialists/wonders in other cities you can get GPs there as well.

    As for controlling GP generation, the only way is to make sure the GPP pool is as pure as possible, so that the GPs generated are mostly of one type.
     
  4. ironic_lettuce

    ironic_lettuce Warlord

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    Thanks guys - I'm pretty sure I didn't have a specialist running (will have to double check though) but I did have a library built. If I want to get only great artists can I only build wonders AND buildings that are linked to great artists? Or is there a way to build a library, and prevent the scientist appearing?
     
  5. robbyextreme

    robbyextreme Warlord

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    The scientist will only appear if you click the "+" sign next to the picture. The game just decided it was best to add a specialist when it recommends what tiles to work. It can slip by you, but that's why you should always check it doesn't add one.

    Some buildings offer "1 free specialist" but these are much later onto the game usually, and by then the GPP they create is almost nothing to impact the GP you want.
     
  6. roguepro92

    roguepro92 Warlord

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    make sure the game isn't setting scientists on auto soon as the max happy is filled and its stunting growth on purpose
     
  7. ironic_lettuce

    ironic_lettuce Warlord

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    Ah ok - so I can build a library, but just make sure that I don't let the AI add a science specialist at the same time?
     
  8. duckstab

    duckstab Child of Noble Family

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    Correct. Just watch your use of the governor in that city. I'm not 100% sure but I think the governor will assign specialists if you turn on emphasize production, research, or great people, or avoid growth. To be on the safe side I usually micromanage every city where I'm trying to pop a specific type of GP.
     
  9. VoiceOfUnreason

    VoiceOfUnreason Deity

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    No, you can add a library, and then continually monitor the city to ensure that a scientist hasn't been hired.

    Also note that the National wonders have GP points - you'll need to be careful with Oxford (if you build it). I wouldn't expect that to be the problem - you wrote "first GP was a scientist", and you can usually manage at least on GP before Education.

    That said, if you're pushing for a culture win, a scientist isn't a bad consolation prize. An academy, in addition to the research boost, will give you 4 culture per turn (base). An early academy, given a thousand years to mature, will of course double that output to 8/turn (base). That's not an artist, and it certainly isn't a culture bomb. But it doesn't suck.
     
  10. ironic_lettuce

    ironic_lettuce Warlord

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    Thanks guys - will micromanage much better :)
     
  11. ironic_lettuce

    ironic_lettuce Warlord

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    Hurrah! I followed your tips and managed to get a comfortable culture victory :) Thanks!
     
  12. Nkat

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    You won your match, congratulations. The way I get a ton of Artists for the Cultural Victory is run Caste System and assign as many Artists as possible.

    Did you get a Tech that gave you a free Scientist? It sounds like you got it early in the game so I can't think of an early Tech that would grant you that. Physics is the only Free Scientist Tech?
     
  13. jmas

    jmas I Can Has Imperium?

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    I recall a culture victory guide on this site that said that the Academy's :culture: doesn't double. Was that patched?
     
  14. QuixotesGhost

    QuixotesGhost Warlord

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    If you have limited slots (not in caste or want a Great Spy/Prophet/Engineer) then I find it's normally better to pollute the pool with two types of great people you want than just focusing on one.

    Artist slots don't come till Code of Laws or Drama, I'd probably get something else for your first Great Person, because i think that's too long to wait. Scientist is good, Engineer is also possible with the Pyramids and Hanging Gardens.
     
  15. Centimus

    Centimus Chieftain

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    Just like to add to what others have said;

    If you want to avoid the the game assigning specialists instead of working tiles, I think the best way is to check the emphasise food-button in the city screen. I'm not sure if this solves the issue entirely, but it sure helped me a lot. With that option enabled, it seems like a new city tile gets worked whenever a city grows (until, of course, there are no more tiles left to work).
     
  16. MarcoPollo

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    I have found a small co-incidence with GP. It doesn't always work, but it works more than it statistically should.

    If I have a hetrogeneous GP pool, often (but not always) the GP produced is the last GP that I micromanaged. It is eerily co-incidental.

    Has anyone else noted this?
     

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