How to improve the Russians

[Swein Forkbeard]

We all know that Russia has been severely nerfed since Vanilla Civ4. What I would do is change the UU and UB as most of their leaders have pretty godd traits.

UU: Licorn Howitzer (replaces Cannon)
Can be built with Chemistry instead of Steel
This was one of the Russian UUs in Empire Earth II; the other two were the Varagnian Warrior and the T-905 Gun Missile Tank.

UB: Blockhouse (replaces Castle)
+20% Defense
-50% Hurry Production (via Slavery, Universal Suffrage) cost
-50% Draft cost
+50% Production of Military Units
Obsoletes with Artillery instead of Economics
This was a building from Age of Empires III which could only be built by the Russians; it function as both a barracks and a watch tower in that game.

 

[Jamesds]

The blockhouse would completely turn the tables, it's a little too powerful (+50% mil. unit production, and -50% hurry production?), you could get an army in no time! As for even more defence....

If it replaces the castle, I'd say make it more expensive (1.5 x cost) to offset the benefits a little, and change the 50% modifiers to 25%, with the military unit production +10-15%. And give it a little less defence than the castle.

Just my thoughts.

 

[qwertz]

the blckhouse would be extremly OP; if you get the Kremlin, you could hurry your builds for 0.5/ .
And I also don't see why should they get a new UU and UB, the old ones could just be boosted.

 

[Swein Forkbeard]

The blockhouse would completely turn the tables, it's a little too powerful (+50% mil. unit production, and -50% hurry production?), you could get an army in no time! As for even more defence....

If it replaces the castle, I'd say make it more expensive (1.5 x cost) to offset the benefits a little, and change the 50% modifiers to 25%, with the military unit production +10-15%. And give it a little less defence than the castle.

Just my thoughts.

I proposed to do this too, but I don't know how much a castle costs.
I guess we could one or two of those benefits. The Blockhouse could replace the Barracks too.
I also think that the Russian UB could be Kremlin; there were more Kremlins than the one in Moscow, and even that one has existed since the Dark Ages.

 

[Tekee]

Lol No Patch is going to relese all this whisful thinking
Anyways I think that Kremlin should be the unique building, and Unique unit could be Cossack but I still think it should come earlier
I don't feel like it needs a huge power boost but Powerful CIvs are the ones with flavor and some civs need a flavor inject more then Russia needs one

 

[DigitalBoy]

+50% for units combined with -50% rush cost for a 100 building that lasts from the medieval age to the industrial age? Sounds good to me!

 

[peter450]

There building giving 3 scientists
cossacks and cav's going to str 16, since the cossack is a good unit, it's just based on one that comes too late and is just a tad to low in str maybe

 

[bonafide11]

The Russian UB should give two free Spy Specialists instead of Science Specialists...

 

[Dark_Jedi06]

I don't really have a problem with their UU...Cossacks used to be much better, true, but I still think they're okay. The UB is the most annoying aspect of playing as the Russians...I never have space race turned on so the production bonus is useless. Not only that but I'm usually well on my way to victory before I can even build the damn thing.

I still play as them occasionally...just so I can be Stalin.

 

[gettingfat]

Bring back the old 18 strength cossacks (or make it 17-strength, as a bit of compromise). With 17- or 18-strength, give them pinch and they will be cool enough for a while. It must be remembered an unpromoted rifleman still has 14 x 125% = 17.5 vs cavs, they are cheaper, and can be drafted, so I don't really see that's too OP.

Research insitute is sort of OK. I just think the UB of Russia should still be their intelligence quarter, giving one free spy specialist + 25% bonus in espionage points. Was the old USSR so good in research? I can't be so sure.

 

[0R4NG3]

Yeah something has to be done. UB needs to come earlier or with a different tech, and cossacks should have their str increased alittle.