i need serious help because i suck bad

[jake2007]

Okay, I'm going to play a game and hopefully the experienced players can give me some tips as I go along. I will be playing as Darius of Persia. My goal is a domination victory. So please if you give any tips keep that in mind. I'll be playing at noble on small great plains with no barbs.

I'll only do the very beginning tonight because it is 2 am and i stayed up playing til 4 am last night and pulled an all nighter the night before

The Beginning



Hopefully i can rule the world!

Okay here is my start.



Is that a good start? I donno I guess it is average for GP. When I get my worker would should i build?



Here I moved my scout a bit and got a free map. Now what should I build first and research first?

Ok thats all so far for now as I said before it is late.

 

[jake2007]

wow those pictures suck how do i put up good ones?

 

[Bhruic]

The pictures are fine (people can click on them to see fullsize versions).

Personally I think you made a large mistake in moving your Settler. The city you founded is missing both Wheat tiles. And by settling on a grassland instead of plain tile, you decreased the amount of food that you have available - which is important considering how many plains tiles there are.

Bh

 

[mice]

Great plains is a herd ( edit;hard ) map IMO, and moving to that spot made it even harder.

I would restart , but that's just me.

 

[AlessioCerci]

^^^ Is "herd" a pun or a typo?

 

[Jet]

AACK, AlessioCerci ed me to it, which means I'm

 

[MrFelony]

i wish that was a cow your were beating lol.

i would first move the scout to see if there is a better spot. i woulda tried to get one of those wheat in the BFC instead of the wine

 

[Tusk]

I agree with the previous posters - it would have been better to build your capital on the square immediately to the left or right of where it is now. Remember the AI is ******ed when it recommends city building spots.

However, if you don't want to restart, I suggest the following: With a lot of plains tiles, food is going to be your main priority - so that your cities can use as many of the surrounding tiles as possible. You say you're playing on a small map, but you don't say how many other civs you're playing against. If it is quite a large number, then I would say - beeline research to animal husbandry so you can build a pasture and get the extra food from the cow resource. Start building a warrior early coz on a small map the others are likely to find you quick...build a settler before a worker I'd say, since it won't take much longer (and your worker can't do too much for you until they can build a pasture) and make sure you grab one or two of those wheat resources with your next city. A good spot might be to the southeast, getting both those wheat resources in your second city's fat cross. After the settler, build 1-2 more military units, then a worker. Build only farms for your capital, until you are producing at least 40 food (not including your capital square), then decide if you want more farms (for specialists) or cottages.

 

[cabert]

The pictures are fine (people can click on them to see fullsize versions).

Personally I think you made a large mistake in moving your Settler. The city you founded is missing both Wheat tiles. And by settling on a grassland instead of plain tile, you decreased the amount of food that you have available - which is important considering how many plains tiles there are.

Bh

Great plains is a herd map IMO, and moving to that spot made it even harder.

I would restart , but that's just me.

agreed
You should have moved the scout to check the available land before settling. If you consider the start "average", it's not good enough for a capital.
Your capital should have enough food.
Please reload the 4000BC, move the scout (the hut isn't a priority, you will get it with your city's culture) and think about a good settling position.
You should count food before settling.
Grassland is neutral.
Plains is -1.
A plains cow is just +1
a plains wheat is better (+2)
a grassland wheat even better (+3)
Of course you can farm the plains to make them neutral but it means you don't get much out of them (1H and 1C if on a river) + you grow slowly.

 

[mice]

^^^ Is "herd" a pun or a typo?

That was a typo , funny one.

 

[SenhorDaGuerra]

broham, that start sucks! but i agree with the other posters, settling on grassland reduces amount of food, and u also miss the 2 wheat resources. If you are gonna play this out long term, you should change you capital to another city. definately not a good capital city.

 

[Killroyan]

Great plains start and not 3 cows in the BFC is like meh. Great plains can make you start with no less then 6-7 cows in the BFC so this is a very mediocre start. I recommend also regenerating.

 

[jake2007]

. .. .. .. . i scewed up already!

a lot of people think i should restart so i will.

 

[xanadux]

On higher levels, great plains can be easier because with less food, the AI cities can't grow as large, even though they have bonuses to health and happiness (maybe this is less so with BTS? I don't know all the BTS bonuses the AI gets)
You just have to fear the lucky AI that may have started with a lot of flood plains.

Lots of plains tiles is bad ... where are you going to get food? Irrigating them all just to get 1 hammer per citizen is a poor city.

 

[Orion071]

Check out this SG where we were Persians (Cyrus) on a Great Plains map. This was Prince-level using Warlords and we finished up a conquest victory in 1390 AD. On Noble it should be even easier. Absolute 1st priority is to find some Horses.

 

[gdgrimm]

So, we've heard plenty of criticism about moving the settler.

A very good rule of thumb:

Your starting settler almost always starts in the best city location in the immediate area. If you move him to found the capital elsewhere, you better be able to state a very good reason for the move.

So about 90% of the time, I found the Capital where I start. The 'very good reason' for the move on the other 10% are things like:
1) Won't lose the only food special, but will make a coastal city (especially if I'm Financial, or the Carthaginians).
2) Won't lose the only food special, but will allow founding on a plains hill (provides an extra hammer in the city square, which speeds very early production).
3) Won't lose the only food special, but will trade fresh water from a lake with a river.

Note the trend about "Won't lose the only food special". In your case, your settler start didn't reveal any food specials, so it was almost gaurenteed that there was one in the dark band around the settler. Since you didn't know exactly where, settling in place would have been the best move.

 

[jake2007]

ok i settled in place in my other thread. please go there and check it out.