I nuked my neighbor 🥲

[queenpea]

I was minding my business, playing as Siam in the Modern Age, pumping out explorers and befriending city states when (suddenly) all of the other civilizations in the game declared war on me (including my friends who only a turn earlier were close to becoming allies).

I fought them back over the years, turning my once peaceful water-worshipping cultural powerhouse into a war machine. I researched nuclear weapons, built the Manhattan Project, and brought rained death upon my frenemies.

The nukes were beautiful, but weak. I was shocked when, having nuked Cahokia (size 30), the city remained size 30. Do nukes no longer remove population from target cities?

 

[ggmoyang]

Normally a nuke pillages 7 tiles and a city loses associated population when tiles are pillaged. (Pops regrow when a tile is repaired though)
But... Shawnee have a tradition which prevents tile being pillaged from specific natural disasters. Maybe the tradition protects tile from nuke too? Needs testing.

 

[Leyrann]

Do nukes no longer remove population from target cities?

Population is directly related to the number of buildings, specialists and improvements in a city. As specialists cannot be affected at all, and buildings and improvements can only ever be damaged, the population statistic can never go down.

 

[Uberfrog]

But... Shawnee have a tradition which prevents tile being pillaged from specific natural disasters. Maybe the tradition protects tile from nuke too?

I would absolutely love it if the Shawnee were somehow invulnerable to nuclear weapons.

 

[queenpea]

I would absolutely love it if the Shawnee were somehow invulnerable to nuclear weapons.

This path was Mississippi to Inca to Mexico, with Pachacuti leading.

I'm usually a peaceful player, I promise! I didn't want them all to die, but zero reduction in city size was a total bummer.

 

[queenpea]

Population is directly related to the number of buildings, specialists and improvements in a city. As specialists cannot be affected at all, and buildings and improvements can only ever be damaged, the population statistic can never go down.

That...sucks.

 

[GeneralZift]

I think this game has the most neutered nuclear weapons in the series so far. Not sure why

 

[Disgustipated]

That's bonkers. I mostly wanted to do it to look at the graphic, but I couldn't get my nukes to work for some reason. It looks like I can mostly ignore them from now on.

 

[Giskler]

I haven't even been able to launch a nuke yet because the games always end before they come into play

 

[ydejin]

JumboPixel, a strategy gaming YouTuber, did some experiments with Nuclear Weapons. According to his experimentation (see 9:30 in where he drops a bomb on one of his own cities) all tiles with radioactive fallout completely lose their yields and he says he didn’t see anyway to clear it. See 9:30 into this video:

 

[GeneralZift]

JumboPixel, a strategy gaming YouTuber, did some experiments with Nuclear Weapons. According to his experimentation (see 9:30 in where he drops a bomb on one of his own cities) all tiles with radioactive fallout completely lose their yields and he says he didn’t see anyway to clear it. See 9:30 into this video:

He uhh... Couldn't build any workers to clear the fallout?

 

[Krikkit1]

I think this game has the most neutered nuclear weapons in the series so far. Not sure why

Because real nukes mean war= end of game everybody loses... which is unfun for warmongers

That is one thing I am hoping a 4th age would have.... no War between civs [except a Human player should be able to trigger MAD... AIs never should], only war between Civs and IPs... and lots of abilities to support IPs in their war against a rival civ (and make another civ's CS into your CS and vice versa)