LesCanadiens
Deity
There seems to be a lot of people on these forums lately that outright attack athiesm. As an atheist, I would like to take this opportunity to defend my beliefs. There are too many reasons why I am an atheist to list in this post, so I will try to go over only the most significant reasons I am an atheist.
1. Validity - This is the most obvious reason. The Christian God can not be proven to be any more valid than Allah, or Budda, or Zues and Hera, or even Santa. A lack of supporting evidence is something all religions share in common.
2. Judgment Day - The Christian God, according to the Bible, is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent. This means that God knew when he made each person exactly what would happen to that person and what that person would do. If god is omnipotent and omniscient it is not possible for a person to do anything at all that he did not directly cause to happen. Most Christians try to blame freewill for the evils people commit, however, freewill and an omnipotent and omniscient god cannot coexist.
3. Child Abuse - Christians think of God as our father in Heaven. Most parents have the burden of deciding how to discipline their children. Would you spank your child? Or ground them? Or would you throw your child into a pit of flames and have him burn for eternity? This is what the Christian God does! No god can be omniscient, omnipotent and benevolent and still send its beloved children to any version of Hell.
4. Faith - The word "faith" when applied to religion is being grossly misused. Webster defines faith as, "firm belief in something for which there is no proof" Most people do not think of this as a bad think, but just look at what faith has done to mankind! Faith is the nemesis of logic. Where there is religious faith, there can not be logic. The two are quite completely mutually exclusive. In every endeavor other than religion, if a person accepts things as being true with no quality evidence to support such beliefs, then the person is considered foolish and even contemptible by society. When acting exactly the same way regarding religion, the person is considered as perfectly normal. There is in faith an immunity to reality. Faith is the destroyer of science and progress. Faith in gods creates a horrible aversion to change. The status quo is the rule of thumb and the "faithful" conservative Christian's morals are the worn out morals of liberals from forty or so years before him. Yet along he goes dragging his feet. "Why free the slaves? It's in the bible." The faithful Christians were enraged when Ben Franklin invented the lightning rod. "It's a sin" they screamed. "God surely controls the lightning and who are you to interfere?" There was Galileo who was tried by the Catholic Church for sacrilege because he claimed the world was round and that the earth orbited the sun, and not the other way around as the bible says. Christians are at this very minute all across the country attempting to remove evolution from the science books, even though it is established as fact. The list is endless. Religion and science are mutually exclusive. Christian Science is nothing but an oxymoron. Faith is the slaughterer of freedom. Truly the Christians pays due lip service to freedom, but their every endeavor is to control and outlaw it. To pass laws to prohibit sexual preferences in the bedroom of two adults is nothing but pure tyranny. Why do these people care who you're sleeping with? What business is it of there's? The faithful claim that they simply want to live life according to the rules of their god, but they want nothing short of making everyone live by those exact rules. Everywhere you find these faithful people you will see them attempting to control the other people around them. They even have the audacity to claim they are persecuted, simply because people resist them and rail against their bids for totalitarian control. The faithful claim they are patriots, but they resemble old Russian Communism much more closely than capitalism. Faith is the destructor of individuality. Everywhere the faithful are trying to enact their version of God's word into law and force the rest of society to be just like them. Faith is the fountainhead of ignorance. The faithful everywhere cast off logic and science as the temptations of Satan. Any science, theory, or fact which contradicts their religion is perceived to be purely evil. This inevitably leads to the embracing of myths and ignorance and the shunning of rational thinking. Faith is the procreator of intolerance. Faith like nothing else strengthens intolerance and helps it breed and spread. What else would come about from people who claim as divinely inspired a book which espouses slavery, homophobia, murder, infanticide, genocide, racism, rape and kidnapping in the name of a loving god?
5. Prayer - It is conceptually unsound that any omniscient and omnipotent being would need constant flattery from its flawed creations or that it would care in the slightest about the offered opinions and requests of those whose past, present and future are obviously previously set in stone by the omniscient and omnipotent being who created them. They can have no opinion, feeling, or prayer which the omniscient and omnipotent being did not create and intentionally cause to come into being long before he ever even created them.
6. A Perfect God - A perfect god does not make mistakes, nor change his mind. In the tale of Noah's ark, God did both. The idea of an omniscient and perfect god as purported by the bible is conceptually unsound according to the very words of the bible which the Christians claim professes it to be so.
7. God Commits Crimes Against Humanity - Even if I did believe in the Christian God, I would not worship him.
I present the following questions to any Christian reading this post.
1. Why did your god order the slaughter of babies by sword?
(Numbers 31:17, Hosea 13:16, Joshua 6:21, Deuteronomy 2:33, Isaiah 13:9, 13:15, Ezekiel 9:5)
2. Why does your god condone the "cutting open the pregnant women"?
(Hosea 13:16, 2 Kings 15:16)
3. Why does your god condone slavery and beating slaves into a slow death?
(Leviticus 25:44, Exodus 21:20, Ephesians 6:5, Leviticus 25:45-46)
4. Why does your god condone kidnapping and raping virgin girls after slaughtering their families in front of their eyes?
(Numbers 31:17, Isaiah 13:9, 13:15)
5. Why did your loving god kill 42 boys for calling a man "baldhead"?
(2 Kings 2:23)
The usual reply is "you're taking those passages out of context" or "those people sinned against God" and I generally respond with "how do you take genocide, rape, kidnapping, murder, infanticide, and slavery out of context?" and "what sin did the infants commit against your god to make him order his people to "cut open the bellies of the pregnant women"?
I realize that by posting this I will probably be insulted and met with intolerance. Go ahead. I don't mind. Insult me all you want. Just keep in mind that with every insult you post, you make your God look worse. "The Christian god is a three headed monster, cruel, vengeful, and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him." -Thomas Jefferson
1. Validity - This is the most obvious reason. The Christian God can not be proven to be any more valid than Allah, or Budda, or Zues and Hera, or even Santa. A lack of supporting evidence is something all religions share in common.
2. Judgment Day - The Christian God, according to the Bible, is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent. This means that God knew when he made each person exactly what would happen to that person and what that person would do. If god is omnipotent and omniscient it is not possible for a person to do anything at all that he did not directly cause to happen. Most Christians try to blame freewill for the evils people commit, however, freewill and an omnipotent and omniscient god cannot coexist.
3. Child Abuse - Christians think of God as our father in Heaven. Most parents have the burden of deciding how to discipline their children. Would you spank your child? Or ground them? Or would you throw your child into a pit of flames and have him burn for eternity? This is what the Christian God does! No god can be omniscient, omnipotent and benevolent and still send its beloved children to any version of Hell.
4. Faith - The word "faith" when applied to religion is being grossly misused. Webster defines faith as, "firm belief in something for which there is no proof" Most people do not think of this as a bad think, but just look at what faith has done to mankind! Faith is the nemesis of logic. Where there is religious faith, there can not be logic. The two are quite completely mutually exclusive. In every endeavor other than religion, if a person accepts things as being true with no quality evidence to support such beliefs, then the person is considered foolish and even contemptible by society. When acting exactly the same way regarding religion, the person is considered as perfectly normal. There is in faith an immunity to reality. Faith is the destroyer of science and progress. Faith in gods creates a horrible aversion to change. The status quo is the rule of thumb and the "faithful" conservative Christian's morals are the worn out morals of liberals from forty or so years before him. Yet along he goes dragging his feet. "Why free the slaves? It's in the bible." The faithful Christians were enraged when Ben Franklin invented the lightning rod. "It's a sin" they screamed. "God surely controls the lightning and who are you to interfere?" There was Galileo who was tried by the Catholic Church for sacrilege because he claimed the world was round and that the earth orbited the sun, and not the other way around as the bible says. Christians are at this very minute all across the country attempting to remove evolution from the science books, even though it is established as fact. The list is endless. Religion and science are mutually exclusive. Christian Science is nothing but an oxymoron. Faith is the slaughterer of freedom. Truly the Christians pays due lip service to freedom, but their every endeavor is to control and outlaw it. To pass laws to prohibit sexual preferences in the bedroom of two adults is nothing but pure tyranny. Why do these people care who you're sleeping with? What business is it of there's? The faithful claim that they simply want to live life according to the rules of their god, but they want nothing short of making everyone live by those exact rules. Everywhere you find these faithful people you will see them attempting to control the other people around them. They even have the audacity to claim they are persecuted, simply because people resist them and rail against their bids for totalitarian control. The faithful claim they are patriots, but they resemble old Russian Communism much more closely than capitalism. Faith is the destructor of individuality. Everywhere the faithful are trying to enact their version of God's word into law and force the rest of society to be just like them. Faith is the fountainhead of ignorance. The faithful everywhere cast off logic and science as the temptations of Satan. Any science, theory, or fact which contradicts their religion is perceived to be purely evil. This inevitably leads to the embracing of myths and ignorance and the shunning of rational thinking. Faith is the procreator of intolerance. Faith like nothing else strengthens intolerance and helps it breed and spread. What else would come about from people who claim as divinely inspired a book which espouses slavery, homophobia, murder, infanticide, genocide, racism, rape and kidnapping in the name of a loving god?
5. Prayer - It is conceptually unsound that any omniscient and omnipotent being would need constant flattery from its flawed creations or that it would care in the slightest about the offered opinions and requests of those whose past, present and future are obviously previously set in stone by the omniscient and omnipotent being who created them. They can have no opinion, feeling, or prayer which the omniscient and omnipotent being did not create and intentionally cause to come into being long before he ever even created them.
6. A Perfect God - A perfect god does not make mistakes, nor change his mind. In the tale of Noah's ark, God did both. The idea of an omniscient and perfect god as purported by the bible is conceptually unsound according to the very words of the bible which the Christians claim professes it to be so.
7. God Commits Crimes Against Humanity - Even if I did believe in the Christian God, I would not worship him.
I present the following questions to any Christian reading this post.
1. Why did your god order the slaughter of babies by sword?
(Numbers 31:17, Hosea 13:16, Joshua 6:21, Deuteronomy 2:33, Isaiah 13:9, 13:15, Ezekiel 9:5)
2. Why does your god condone the "cutting open the pregnant women"?
(Hosea 13:16, 2 Kings 15:16)
3. Why does your god condone slavery and beating slaves into a slow death?
(Leviticus 25:44, Exodus 21:20, Ephesians 6:5, Leviticus 25:45-46)
4. Why does your god condone kidnapping and raping virgin girls after slaughtering their families in front of their eyes?
(Numbers 31:17, Isaiah 13:9, 13:15)
5. Why did your loving god kill 42 boys for calling a man "baldhead"?
(2 Kings 2:23)
The usual reply is "you're taking those passages out of context" or "those people sinned against God" and I generally respond with "how do you take genocide, rape, kidnapping, murder, infanticide, and slavery out of context?" and "what sin did the infants commit against your god to make him order his people to "cut open the bellies of the pregnant women"?
I realize that by posting this I will probably be insulted and met with intolerance. Go ahead. I don't mind. Insult me all you want. Just keep in mind that with every insult you post, you make your God look worse. "The Christian god is a three headed monster, cruel, vengeful, and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him." -Thomas Jefferson