Alsark
Noble
... There are no diplomatic modifiers.
I was playing a game as Babylon on Warlord difficulty. I never declared war on anybody on my own accord; however, Washington asked me twice to assist him in wars (one against Songhai and one against Egypt). I agree to assist him on both accounts. We also had a Pact of Cooperation the entire game and we had signed Pacts of Secrecy together. We also engaged in about four research agreements and were trading resources and had open borders the entire game.
Territory-wise, Washington and I are roughly even. France is the largest, having completely wiped out England and killing several city-states (I'm on the Earth map, large size, and Napoleon has all of Africa). Nobody really minds France's aggressions, it would seem. We're all at different sides of the known world, so we have no close border tensions.
Anyway, France declares war on me. That turn I ask Washington if he could go to war with France (I ask, "What would make this deal work?") and he says, "I don't think this is possible" (asking in this fashion shouldn't result in negative penalties - or at least, it didn't in Civ 4). So I ask if he can form a Pact of Secrecy, and he says no. Even if this resulted in a negative penalty, I should have something like +5 relations with him if we've been keeping track of the past events.
... Next turn, Washington declares war on me for my "wanton aggression." The "wanton aggression" that he asked me to commit :/.
... Diplomacy in Civilization V officially sucks.
I was playing a game as Babylon on Warlord difficulty. I never declared war on anybody on my own accord; however, Washington asked me twice to assist him in wars (one against Songhai and one against Egypt). I agree to assist him on both accounts. We also had a Pact of Cooperation the entire game and we had signed Pacts of Secrecy together. We also engaged in about four research agreements and were trading resources and had open borders the entire game.
Territory-wise, Washington and I are roughly even. France is the largest, having completely wiped out England and killing several city-states (I'm on the Earth map, large size, and Napoleon has all of Africa). Nobody really minds France's aggressions, it would seem. We're all at different sides of the known world, so we have no close border tensions.
Anyway, France declares war on me. That turn I ask Washington if he could go to war with France (I ask, "What would make this deal work?") and he says, "I don't think this is possible" (asking in this fashion shouldn't result in negative penalties - or at least, it didn't in Civ 4). So I ask if he can form a Pact of Secrecy, and he says no. Even if this resulted in a negative penalty, I should have something like +5 relations with him if we've been keeping track of the past events.
... Next turn, Washington declares war on me for my "wanton aggression." The "wanton aggression" that he asked me to commit :/.
... Diplomacy in Civilization V officially sucks.